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So who gets more hits tonight Moncada or the rest of the line up put together ?

Nothing weird about it to me. Cold and young pitcher early in the season trying to gain some consistency in his mechanics leads to struggles. He'll sort it all out sooner or later,

Man if Eloy and Yoan both become beasts. That helps things immensely. The beast and the besssss.

Why do defensive stats mean anything this early ? I thought defensive stats really needed time to paint a clearer picture .

Encarnacion sucked at the start of last year too but he ended up with a pretty good year but yeah one of these years he will actually be bad .

You worry too much . If this was mid season in optimal weather for getting an arm loose and warm and it happened 5 or 6 starts in a row then you could worry. With dead arm and cold weather typical of early season crap just give him until June of so before you actually panic. We can't expect all these young guys to end up injury free anyway. Just look at all the Mets young pitchers for how things go for for starters these days. Throw a bunch together and seems like half end up with arm problems. Guess I'm not helping you worry any less . Sorry.

Thanks for the updates ! Nice to know he is on his feet.

Better hope there are no collisions on defense.

Moncada has the built in advantage of playing premium defensive position and being a really fast runner. Not really fair to ask who will have the higher WAR.

Maybe because returning to 3rd base will be admitting his whole thought process was more money oriented than based in any kind of reality and these guys have big ego's and who wants to admit they made a big mistake? He shouldn't need any extra money to return to 3rd base since its probably best to play his best position for him and his team. If not. he's going to come off as a big selfish moron if his D stats stay the same as you say they are. But he wouldn't be the 1st nor would he be the last to make selfish decisions.

I think any of them being 1's or 2's by 2020 is a stretch. Why ?because all 3 of them have never been a 1 or 2 before and expecting it is kind of like expecting every young pitcher with promise or highly rated to be a TOR guy . I'm hopeful of those 3 guys we maybe get a 3 and 4 anything beyond that is wishful thinking and even a 3 and 4 might be wishful thinking too. And really that's not so bad if 2 of the 3 can be 3,4 guys. That's a decent success rate.

I echo these sentiments. But holy crap its like an eternal winter right now on the South side with injuries and illnesses and fucking brain hemorrhages. Make it stop !

I am leery of any trade and try to extend deals just as I was with the Machado rumors with that and the Samardzija rumors before that. That's just a fools errand .

Ok but you do realize how very very young some of these guys are going to be , They aren't going to start their 1st few years in the bigs being 1's or 2's . Hopefully some end up that way but look how people are panicky about Gio already and it was in the spring people were panicky about Lopez . Give them time or in your case Lilian please don't expect too much too soon. If the Sox truly want to compete in 2020 and they don't just as with hitters some become studs a little later than expected. Sandy Koufax from age 19-24 in 6 yrs did nothing great and never pitched more than 175 innings and that was the year before he became great. Give these guys some rope . There's nothing wrong with getting another quality starter and labeling the rebuild a failure if it takes longer than expected or we buy a SP . I think you might be afraid we never get that LH middle of the lineup hitter if we buy some pitching

That's for sure . We all know the bigger prospects in the org. but these newer ones down in A ball aren't exactly household names yet.Need all the help I can get on those guys.

Losing ugly but with a purpose I suppose . It's really hard suffering through the Bears and Hawks and Bulls sucking but when the Sox suck too its dreadful. Fingers crossed that it all pays off in the end and if not "off with their heads !"

Ha I actually had to look up what machine is used to separate wheat from chaff in order to compare the Sox management/development team to the thresher.

Ha back to disagreeing. Moustakas and some of those guys the Twins picked up weren't big signings. actually ended up being cheap or in the case of Lance Lynn a reasonable one year signing that can be flipped if necessary. Hell Moustakas could be flipped too. Even the veteran relievers the Twins picked up were pretty cheap 1 yr deals except for Addison Reed and he was only 2 years. Even if you think signing a few of those guys hurts our PT to the kids at least we couldve flipped some to get more kids anyway. Chances are all the relievers we picked up are pretty worthless and I'd only give Davidson a slim chance at being around for any playoff teams and Sanchez a decent shot, maybe 50/50, of being the super sub on a contender but not much better than that.

I just meant that there's going to be a lot names that come and go wasn't necessarily comparing projects to draft picks but we are also stockpiling or trying out projects on the pitching side too, Vierga, Gomez, Rondon, Ross etc. It's just something most teams do every year hoping to find a diamond among the coal.

This is one thing we are in full agreement . A long way to go to separate the wheat from the chaff. I do love my cliches. We just have to hope the thresher is operating on all cylinders.

I wouldn't call it dire though . It's just reality with pitchers. Sox are stacking them up because of that reason. The are doing the same thing with position players hoping one turns into something very useful amongst the Gillaspie's, Palka's. Willie Garcia's, Tilson's and Cordells , Delmonico's , Davidson's etc.

That's what I've been trying to tell you all along . Injuries and flame out are going to take their toll on a lot of those arms and like the Mets we may trade away a guy who ends up like Michael Fulmer.

Unfortunately in order to sign him I seriously doubt you can MAKE him do anything.

I wanted to delete that post because you had already answered it with JGB But yea I will take 2 WS appearances in a row .Thats sustained success in the White Sox world .

We are on the exact same page with our views. The guys in the minors there's just way too much trust in them . There's just way too much that can go wrong plus they will be extremely young still and building up innings even if they turn out to be good. Some of those guys won't even sniff the majors let alone become stars which is what we will need . Starting All star quality pitchers and relievers and they just don't come along a lot and especially all at the same time like over a 3 or 4 year period. We are even in agreement on Moustakas, he was a bargain and so far he's performing admirably though it's a long long season. Also in the lineup there will be nothing wrong with having a couple 1-2 WAR guys if you also have some 3-8 WAR guys . That's plenty of offense as long as not too much of the WAR is given for defense.