Jake

QUOTE (flavum @ Oct 4, 2012 -> 10:25 AM) Hawk should be given a nice severance package, and they should get a new PBP guy in there....and not a former player. Isn't it possible that Hawk is part of the problem with attendance? He turns so many people off that they have a hard time attracting new fans. And he also is so down when the team loses, it makes the fans they have so negative, they don't want to watch them in person. I know the attendance issue is very complex, and it's not the main reason why the Sox don't draw. But I don't think Hawk helps the situation...I think he hurts the team in a lot of ways. That makes no sense. Every marginally interested baseball fan I've ever known loves Hawk. He makes a boring sport interesting. Do you think a casual fan would rather have someone like literally every other broadcast (you never hear a word they say) or someone that actually calls for your attention, as if it was something more than a silly, boring game on TV? The only people he pushes away are people that are already firmly attached to another team or dislike baseball too much in general. QUOTE (Buehrle>Wood @ Oct 4, 2012 -> 03:40 PM) Hawk attracts more fans if anything. ^^ QUOTE (danman31 @ Oct 4, 2012 -> 05:12 PM) That's the same thing people say about Dick Vitale. Vitale has done great things for college basketball, but people outgrow him. That doesn't mean he's still not bringing people into the game. I don't understand how so many Sox fans can hate Hawk Harrelson. He IS the White Sox as far as I'm concerned. Vitale isn't a bad comparison. Vitale says blatantly biased things sometimes (odd for national TV, but what the hell) but he's extremely entertaining -- he helps replicate the intensity of the stadium with his own intensity. This is what Hawk does too.

QUOTE (Y2HH @ Oct 4, 2012 -> 03:28 PM) They may be two different people, but they're both businessmen that look at the bottom line much in the same regard. By and large, Bain was known was a job shipper/outsourcer...which is exactly what GE has become in recent years under Immelt's lead, and he's just one of the many Obama appointed to advise him who are HUGE on outsourcing jobs, because it helps their bottom lines despite the fact it kills American jobs. There are plenty of successful businessmen he could have appointed to advise him that DON'T outsource, but he didn't do that...he played politics and doled out favors to what will result in huge campaign contributions. If he doesn't think Romney was a very sound businessman in what he did with Bain regarding American jobs, then he shouldn't be taking advice from people who do business exactly like Romney does when better alternatives exist and could have just as easily been appointed to said advisory board. If you want to stop outsourcing, you talk to those that outsource. How else do you find out what kinds of things would stop them from doing so? It's kind of simple. If all they say is "billions in tax cuts," well you don't have to listen. This is the nice thing about having an advisory board. These assholes AREN'T the President.

QUOTE (Y2HH @ Oct 4, 2012 -> 03:04 PM) Edit: To make it a finer point -- it's not that he's dealing with unseemly people as part of politics, this is a given -- in this case, it's that he says Romney has no idea how to fix the economy, yet he appoints and takes advice from people exactly like Romney on how to do the same thing. I, for one, find that VERY interesting, even if you don't. Well that's different. I don't think BO is trying to say that every big businessman is like Mitt Romney, necessarily. This is more "Mitt Romney's ideas, as stated by himself, are bad and I believe these bad ideas originate in his business background." This means GE may have different ideas (since this person is from GE and is in fact a human being) or perhaps that incorporating certain nuances that Barack, as a non-businessman, may not have known about can still be useful even if the general plan on the whole sucks. But it is important to make sure we consider Mitt Romney and any particular corporation head as two different people.

QUOTE (Y2HH @ Oct 4, 2012 -> 03:04 PM) We disagree on this entirely. I think it shows Obama is a politician just like the rest of them...say one thing, but do another through your actions. Do as I say, not as I do. That's exactly what this highlights. If you [Obama] dislike the way Romney ran Bain, don't f***ing appoint people just like him to ADVISE YOU ON HOW TO CREATE JOBS. How you don't find that to be an interesting discussion is beyond my understanding. I would be fine with Mitt Romney offering his thoughts via placement on a non-legislative body. If he offered advice that was stupid and self-serving, I could ignore it. If he (or GE) actually offered insight, however, it would be one of a kind and immensely useful since no one else will know the inner workings of massive corporations better. I don't want these people as my President unless they can at least claim an agenda that doesn't seem self-serving and out of touch. I can't believe you don't understand what I'm saying. It's an unavoidable fact that you will have to consult these people to try to find a way to get them to do the things you want them to do. "I will try to create jobs but not include those with the greatest means to create jobs in the discussion" sounds like a great plan. Taking advice =/= giving in. This is just like the "flip flop" discussion. You can have the blinders on and never change anything (not including large corporations in the information gathering process for job creation) or you can be receptive to outside opinions in case your plans are somehow inadequate (put large corporations on advisory groups). Whether the President's position changes will depend on how useful the input from GE is.

QUOTE (Y2HH @ Oct 4, 2012 -> 01:14 PM) It doesn't matter if they "have any real legal power or not", the fact is, he put people EXACTLY like Romney in charge of his jobs creation advisory board. You keep ignoring that, because it fits your agenda, but it's exactly what Obama did. I'm not ignoring it but it's a profoundly uninteresting point that you're trying to make. Who else are you going to consult for information on job creation if not potential "job creators"? I have to think, even as a sort of fan of Obama, that you could find far more unsettling examples of his dealing with unseemly people than this one that you keep bringing up. This is part of politics. The people that know most about the things you don't like are the people that do them -- the best regulators are the best of the industry. In some cases, you have to evaluate if someone is being consulted/given power to further their own or former interests or if they are in fact just fabulously qualified due to their previous experience. QUOTE (Soxbadger @ Oct 4, 2012 -> 01:47 PM) Its not even that, its that Mitt last night basically just announced he had a new economic plan and made it up on the fly. That is just scary. Obama is far more calculated in his front running, he probably mulls it over for months before doing anything. I have no problem with Mitt saying that after years of watching Mass that he may have been wrong. That is reasonable and can be defended. I just didnt like the "surprise" aspect of his debate tactic. This.

QUOTE (flippedoutpunk @ Oct 3, 2012 -> 02:06 PM) Anyone have experience with the steroid Dianabol? Theres a personal trainer at xsport that tells me he has a supplier. I'd like to get a Clay Matthews body the way that Clay Matthews did it. If you're seriously considering it, I can talk you through some of the very basic things and how to at least evaluate a reliable source of information. I'm not afraid to say in the open though that you should not even consider it unless you're a very experienced lifter and are having trouble maintaining progress. Also, steroids can be used with no lasting side effects if used correctly. Most folks have a very hard time sticking to a logical plan once they start though, even if they had a supplier that was nice enough to point them in the direction of someone that knows what they're doing.

QUOTE (HickoryHuskers @ Oct 4, 2012 -> 01:57 PM) Assuming that Peavy can be re-signed, the rotation has Sale, Peavy, Danks, and Quintana or Santiago. Then your options for 5th starter are Floyd @ $9M, Myers @ $10, or you can go with both Quintana and Santiago. That's a hell of an assumption but I'd like a rotation of Sale, Peavy, Danks, Floyd, Quintana

I would have no problems making David Wright our highest paid player. I don't think we could give them enough years though. QUOTE (witesoxfan @ Oct 4, 2012 -> 11:31 AM) You are welcome Jake. Thanks!

QUOTE (Y2HH @ Oct 4, 2012 -> 09:52 AM) This is so full of crap, it's not even funny. I love how you point to Romney "loving to fire poor people while at Bain", but you have no problem whatsoever with Obama appointing people like Jeffrey Immelt (CEO of GE) to his "US jobs creation council", all the while GE (under the watchful eye of Immelt) is outsourcing jobs to foreign countries for cheap labor and firing "poor people" the same exact f***ing way Bain Capital did. Obama said he'd create 50 billion trillion new jobs, too...and did little to explain how that would happen other than "we're going to spend a bunch of money re-building roads and bridges that we seem to be re-building every f***ing year anyway". Both of them are full of s***...it's just funny how you think only one of them is. You keep saying that and ignoring the fact that that is an advisory board that has no real legal power. I would want to know, from the outsourcer, what things might cause outsourcers to stop outsourcing. Now say that fives time fast. It's not the same as having a President who had some questionable business practices. I really wouldn't care how much money the guy made if he wasn't so arrogant about it -- the 47% business, etc. is just a confirmation of what makes so many people not trust rich businessmen.

Jennings has been absolutely amazing. I am shocked he got recognition, though.

QUOTE (Brian @ Oct 3, 2012 -> 04:13 PM) Wow! Hamilton drops routine fly,,A's have scored 6 to take 7-5 lead in 4th. he's had his head up his ass

QUOTE (Steve9347 @ Oct 3, 2012 -> 12:07 PM) I'm doing hot yoga tonight (and weekly moving forward) to prep my old (29 year old) body for the coming basketball season. Anyone have experience with this? I'm looking forward to the experience. I don't know what it is, but you should probably post pics

QUOTE (iamshack @ Oct 1, 2012 -> 12:34 PM) Jeesh...I feel bad for your girlfriend... QUOTE (RockRaines @ Oct 1, 2012 -> 03:26 PM) "This is our sex corner" QUOTE (iamshack @ Oct 1, 2012 -> 05:01 PM) The coitus corner! okay...maybe there is ONE other thing I do in my bed....

You want collapse? Wait until Texas loses to Oakland today -- losing a 13 game lead over Oakland would be a "collapse." 2-7 down the stretch if they lose today. If they don't win their wild card game, oh lawd

We can lose Beckham, but I never want to lose STRONG ARM OF BECKHAMMM

Just saw the Dayan shot from earlier....dear lord was that thing spanked

I have to think the Sox have gotten at least a year's salary in insurance on Peavy's contract

an extra inning game...exactly what everyone wanted

From the twittersphere in the past 24 hours: Thibs extended 4 years KC Johnson is optimistic that the Bulls will work out an extension with Taj Gibson before the upcoming deadline Boozer and Rip are reportedly in noticeably better shape, according to Thibs (Rose listed as day to day) Thibs claims the Celtics tried to trade for Hinrich while he was an assistant there

The "hiccups" BS should be alleviated soon since we're hoping to finally have continuity at the OC position and perhaps more importantly a "normal" offensive system that folks can actually learn and run effectively.

Marty would feel better about Detroit if Verlander, Scherzer, Fielder, Cabrera, Martinez, and Jackson were 5 years younger.

Hope for the best. I'm cautiously optimistic that he'll at least put up something like a .700 OPS next year, which is fine with me. I don't expect him to have two separate months batting under .200, especially not a month like his first one this season. Manto has flat out said it -- he needed a lot of mechanical work to get consistent. He's had this season to work on things (not that easy) and he'll get an entire offseason with Manto this time around. Luckily, he's a huge plus defensively and he seemed to be on the rise offensively in the midst of our pennant chase. There are no replacements out there. You leave it be. If Chase Utley becomes available, you can forget Gordon. Until then, I'm okay with where we are.

My lineup for next year, subject to adjustment in case of acquisitions or poor play out of the gate: ADA - CF Gordon Beckham - 2B Alex Rios - RF Adam Dunn - 1B Paul Konerko - DH Kevin Youkilis - 3B AJ Pierzynski - C Dayan Viciedo - LF Alexei Ramirez - SS Big assumptions on a couple of those guys returning, so if it is "generic players" It would be more like: ADA Gordon Rios Dunn PK Dayan Generic Catcher/T Flow Generic 3B/??? Alexei Ramirez

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Oct 2, 2012 -> 09:11 AM) Ran out of gas or got a couple of flat tires sounds about right. They wouldn't have been in position to win if they hadn't pushed their pitchers like Sale, Quintana and Peavy earlier. De Aza gets hurt, Youkilis is breaking down, Dunn pulls a muscle, Konerko needs wrist surgery a ton of rookie pitchers......for a team that was flawed to begin with its asking a lot for them to keep overcoming these things. I thought they would, but I don't think the future is nearly as dark as some think. The funny thing is we really handled those starting pitchers with kid gloves throughout most of the season