Jake

I'm not eager at all to trade for a reliever, but I do understand the uneasiness associated with all the young guys. Getting Crain back and hopefully everyone else will be a nice start. I would still rather trade for a middle relief guy than waste talent on a backup catcher. If it were me though, I'd just stand pat. I have a feeling that is Kenny's plan too unless something wows him. He'll probably feel out the starting pitcher market as a "just to see" sort of thing, but at this point the only kind of starting pitcher it'd make sense to get is a top of the rotation guy.

I demand another May-esque type run. Le'ts go!

Just because Rose doesn't recruit in public and we haven't landed a "big fish"...this does not mean Derrick doesn't do anything to help bring in top players. His only chance to recruit so far would have been guys like LeBron or Dwyane, who he really didn't know. We haven't been major players due to our cap since that season. He won't be recruiting the likes of Dwight unless instructed to by the front office. Also, there are players that won't want to play with Thibs, but it has nothing to do with minutes and everything to do with the required effort.

This team is not in first place without Adam Dunn.

Jaws has been very objective in this QB stuff. Some might call him boring, but I like the no-nonsense. It is actually informative. I wish people would devote this time to every position.

QUOTE (kitekrazy @ Jul 5, 2012 -> 10:49 PM) Bobby kinda reminded me of Ed Farmer. Had a short stint of brilliance with the heater and curve. It was also odd for a team to go through two other closers and make it to the post season and win the series. I can't even remember who the opening day closer was (Shingo?) and failure #2. Hermanson! Remember that part of the reason closers and relievers in general may not last as long is due to the fact that, well, usually the best pitchers are starting pitchers. By and large most guys end up in the pen because they didn't cut it as a starter. The reasons they may not make it as a closer may be very much related to the ineptitude that kept them from being a starter.

QUOTE (KyYlE23 @ Jul 5, 2012 -> 05:16 PM) So let me get this straight, the two trades that KW overpaid are: Swisher, where he traded for an All star player that didn't mesh with Gregs favorite manager. And Edwin, where by many accounts KW got f***ed over by Rizzo trying to acquire Dunn. Don't forget what Daniel Hudson's up to right about now

QUOTE (Soxfest @ Jul 5, 2012 -> 02:58 PM) No kidding Yu has a whole country voting for him nonstop. I'm not convinced it works exactly like that.

QUOTE (Soxfest @ Jul 5, 2012 -> 02:03 PM) I wish he would not of tried against a LHP It's like a rule of baseball. The moment you're convinced you won't string a couple hits together so you decide to steal, that person stealing gets out and then you get the necessary offense to score him without stealing. When he steals successfully, the hit to score him never happens. At least that's how it seems

QUOTE (Wagz @ Jul 5, 2012 -> 02:03 PM) Hes all about HRs though and he is in the top 5 in the category. People want to see a high scoring Allstar game not guys who hit for a good average and decent power numbers hence AJP not making it. Which is utter S*** Yeah, if Yu led the AL in HR that would certainly help his case

That scared the hell out of me.

When are they going to announce the winners?

QUOTE (Soxfest @ Jul 5, 2012 -> 02:00 PM) Danks cost the Sox a run. It was just a steal, not a baserunning mistake. That's just part of the risk of stealing, particularly off a lefty

QUOTE (GoSox05 @ Jul 5, 2012 -> 01:48 PM) @jasoncollette .226/.317/.443 -- that's Josh Hamilton since the start of June. 121 PA, 14 BB, 37 K's Not sure that PK's looks much better

QUOTE (GoSox05 @ Jul 5, 2012 -> 01:43 PM) I bet a lot of people stayed away because they knew Tyler Flowers was starting.

btw, I've been sitting here just voting my butt off for Peavy/Freese join me

QUOTE (Baron @ Jul 5, 2012 -> 01:29 PM) I have no problem with trading for one. I wouldn't pay anything for a backup catcher. I don't even know if I'd give up Flowers for a backup catcher. I'd insist on buying one if I felt like I needed one

QUOTE (GoodAsGould @ Jul 5, 2012 -> 01:20 PM) Yeah I don't know what people expect out of a backup catcher that plays as rare as Flowers does.... he plays good defense and has thrown out baserunners anything more is gravy. QUOTE (Harry Chappas @ Jul 5, 2012 -> 01:20 PM) The thing with Flowers is that if he is doing the job at calling the game he is fine. I wish he hit better...but it's not that big of a need, honestly. ^^^

QUOTE (JoeCoolMan24 @ Jul 5, 2012 -> 12:39 PM) I'm still skeptical of New Q. I want to think he is great, I really do, but I just can't figure out his dominance just yet. He just has an amazing plan out there, he executes it well, and keeps his head on straight no matter what. s*** is going to happen that will regress his numbers a bit, but I think he's here to stay. Folks know that I've been critical of our other rookie starter with less than stellar stuff but Q is real. QUOTE (soxfan49 @ Jul 5, 2012 -> 12:46 PM) A year ago, many thought he was Pierzynski's replacement. Now, not so much. He couldn't hit my changeup. I think Tyler as a full-time player would manage something like .220-.250 AVG, .300-.330 OBP, 20-25 HR, and perhaps 150-200 Ks. His game is one that when not playing full-time, all of those rates take a hit. He'll probably get a big league job one day, he'll stick for a year or so and then hang around as a back up and then we'll all forget him in all likelihood.

Simon Castro or bust Ventura - "Right now, it's Axel. It can change at any moment." lol @ any moment -- Robin gets a tingly feeling in his stomach and changes guns

Any pitcher can get hurt. I think either one could have a major injury, either one may not. Sale me please.

Lots of minor injuries.

I believe Marty's "free beer" offer will apply to son

QUOTE (KyYlE23 @ Jul 3, 2012 -> 04:42 PM) It was the heat defense collapsing on Rose and doubling him when he had the ball. They focused their entire defense on shutting Rose down. And it worked, because the Heat D is pretty damn good. And it didnt help that Korver couldnt hit a shot to save his life Derrick in that series needed to learn to be a point guard. He had trouble running the offense. Sure, a SG that was a true scorer would have helped but when it came down to it between the coaches and the point guard we just quit moving the ball and had Rose try to create by himself whenever the play mattered. We have good catch and score players like Luol and great post passers in Boozer and Noah and none of those things were utilized. Sure, Korver missed some shots, but the sets were so predictable. Ball didn't move in that series -- we basically tried to out-superstar them with our 1 against their 3...of course that wouldn't work. This is why sometimes we'd see us go on runs w/o Derrick in the game...without him on the court everyone was more willing to move the ball because they weren't taking the ball out of the hand of the high-volume shooter. I really think we had a chance to beat the Heat this year and the Heat only confirmed it with how close they played some of those series. We will never know though because our backcourt was never healthy once all year and we probably won't see those two together ever again. It'd be nice if Rip had a revival this year but it's wishful thinking to think Derrick will recover enough for it to matter (this season). And I think we'd have to win a championship to see Rip in a Bulls uni after next season.

The league needed to do SOMETHING, but what they did was far too much.