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QUOTE(Steve9347 @ Jul 7, 2005 -> 07:24 PM) oh wow, woody paige... watch out. yeah i know, not surprised hes against pods

how can you say that to jimmy piersall, i have actually talked to the guy in person and he is one hell of a guy, everyone has their own opinion, woody paige doesnt want him to go either

QUOTE(Jeckle2000 @ Jul 7, 2005 -> 07:05 PM) Your kidding right... Wow I honestly don't even know how to respond to that... :headshake have you heard him say anything about it to the public? to prove me wrong

QUOTE(Jeckle2000 @ Jul 7, 2005 -> 06:58 PM) Ohh so you've spoken to him... He's a big name...with big names come big ego's. If I were you I wouldn't be so quick to just assume that. everett isnt complaining about his playing time and he has a big ego

QUOTE(Jeckle2000 @ Jul 7, 2005 -> 06:53 PM) If Vizquel was under a one year contract I would agree with you... but no way should be be stuck with him for 2 more years while he continues to decline. Not to mention I doubt he'd be happy as our #9 hitter and Ozzie would be insane to move Gooch down when he has done absolutely everything right in that role... But of course i'm the one with the "hollow skull" vizquel would move down in the order to play for a winning team

alright i want to change chi-guy2 to ChWRoCk2 thanks to whoever did the honors

QUOTE(Jeckle2000 @ Jul 7, 2005 -> 06:45 PM) Uribe young has range...Vizquel old losing range.... Unless the Vizquel trade comes with a fountain of youth clause.... no deal... never said were getting rid of uribe, if he has a good arm id rather have him at third, and then vizquel at short, it makes sense, but obviously not to your hollow skull

QUOTE(Jeckle2000 @ Jul 7, 2005 -> 06:33 PM) Uhh... huh.... So your saying 2 top prospects and one of the best lefty relievers in the game even in a suppar year to be given up for a weaker defensive SS with only slight offensive improvement as our #9 hitter and a pitcher that was mediocore till he went to the west coast and got introduced to Balco.... Excuse me while I :puke There is no way in heck I take Vizquel no matter how cheap that let him go for because he weakens our defense and we'd be stuck with him three years. As for Schmidt the only trade I do for him is Joe Borchard straight up with ALOT of cash coming our way.... To give us the farm for him and make us a second place team in the process is just insane.... wtf u talking about vizquel is a good shortstop defenisvely, he has gold gloves uribe has none, go look it up

what i dont get is where would we put vizquel, my guess is that crede would be included or maybe willie, thats what i dont get, shouldnt take much to get schmidt get schmidt and vizquel give crede? mccarthy for sure, sweeney and marte thats my proposal

QUOTE(Jeckle2000 @ Jul 7, 2005 -> 05:43 PM) I think some of you really need to read this.... IT'S NOT 2003. Schmidt is one of the worst pitchers in the NL in a pitchers park this year. HOW ON EARTH CAN YOU EXPECT HIM TO COME TO THE CELL AND DO BETTER. I realize his name is all shiny and stuff BUT HE'S NO LONGER AN ACE. EVEN IF WE GOT HIM (WHICH WOULD BE IN NO WAY WORTH ANYTHING OF QUALITY) HE WOULDN'T EVEN MAKE THE PLAY OFF ROSTER BECAUSE HE'S JUST NOT THAT GOOD! Ok...Rant over....

QUOTE(RockRaines @ Jul 7, 2005 -> 03:29 PM) Carl Pavano=overpaid on the DL true, burnett is far better, when healthy

traded to? maybe the cubs or nats

f***ing stupid thread nobody

QUOTE(RockRaines @ Jul 7, 2005 -> 02:11 PM) Heres something to chew on. Aj Burnett = Jose Contreras no

QUOTE(Milkman delivers @ Jul 7, 2005 -> 01:51 PM) I got my hopes up too far for Schmidt, so I'm not even gonna consider this one until it goes through. I'll be ecstatic if it happens, but my hopes won't be getting high for this one. same here but it gets me excited so i tend to believe it all, i know we will get a pitcher though

QUOTE(Chisoxfn @ Jul 7, 2005 -> 01:48 PM) If they lock him up long term, I'd be so stinking giddy over that deal. Heck, anyone think they'd have some interest in Duque. Sox are frustrated with Duque, they deal Duque, Marte, and say Gio or Tracey plus a guy like Owens. The deal gives the Marlins some help in the future but it also helps the Marlins this year because they get a guy that can pitch for them down the stretch (Duque) as well as Marte who can be an asset for them in the pen. not to mention duque gives them postseason experience, and we get playoff expereicne in burnett i believe (he pitched in the playoffs right?)

sounds like from what im hearing were looking at the following pitchers: aj burnett ted lilly jason schmidt billy wagner eddie guardado

QUOTE(DBAH0 @ Jul 7, 2005 -> 01:41 PM) Guardado has a year left on his contract after this season, or a team option IIRC. i think id rather have jenks and baj take over the role, jenks has shown us that he compete from the one inning we all saw and baj has experience and improved, we dont need guardado

QUOTE(Tony82087 @ Jul 7, 2005 -> 01:37 PM) I say Willie goes in the Eddie deal. There, happy. yeah the mariners would want him but id rather give timo

my only question is which one of our starters would go in the bullpen, because our starters would be buehrle garcia garland contreras duque and burnett IF IT HAPPENS

QUOTE(Chisoxfn @ Jul 7, 2005 -> 01:27 PM) Ok, lets assume...Marte, Tracey or Gio, and Sweeney for Burnett. Who here pulls the trigger on that deal? I'm basing this off what Rosenthal said the Marlins were interested in (in terms of pieces) as well as the fact that the Sox would refuse to give up Bmac. If thats the case I'd pull the trigger on this deal, however I'd hope the Sox would try to reup with AJ. All that said, even if they didn't I'd still be really tempted to make this trade, especially if they then pulled the trigger on a deal for Wagner or another solid left handed reliever. Marte is good, but Burnett is very good and would give the Sox a filthy rotation. we would have an aj to aj thing going lol, i wouldnt do it if we were giving gio and sweeney however id do it if it was marte and tracey

QUOTE(Rowand44 @ Jul 7, 2005 -> 01:27 PM) what i dont pay attention to this deadline stuff, guy who posted above made it seem like it was or whatever? edit: i see my mistake

QUOTE(Jordan4life_2005 @ Jul 7, 2005 -> 01:25 PM) All these rumors are driving me crazy. It's gonna be a stressful 24 days before the deadline. wait theres only 24 hrs left till the deadline edit: nevermine it was 24 days :banghead

id do this in a heartbeat, im not a big damaso fan

why billy wagner, and why jimmy rollins, how bout ensberg