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QUOTE (CaliSoxFanViaSWside @ Feb 12, 2009 -> 01:09 PM) Reinsdorf said he doesn't really expect attendance to drop much because families might be canceling more expensive things like vacations but adding less expensive things for entertainment like a trip to the ball park. He also said the payroll isn't attendance driven as much as it used to be and corporate sponsorship , which will be less this year, pays for much of the salaries in baseball now. Attendance is just one side of revenue, and I'm sure he is hoping that what he says is the case, but he's not made all that money by not assuming the worst in some spots. Everybody is doing it but the Yanks. It's not just us.

QUOTE (Reddy @ Feb 12, 2009 -> 01:01 PM) ps, where did all the money go from dumping Swish, Javy, etc? Raises to Arbitration eligible players and players that were due for a raise, plus to account for the fact that the economy sucks and attendance/revenues will likely be way down this year.

QUOTE (Reddy @ Feb 12, 2009 -> 12:56 PM) aight. Word. It sucks but thats the way it is. Let's go yell at the banks.

QUOTE (Reddy @ Feb 12, 2009 -> 12:52 PM) fair enough, the market is/was saturated w/ corner OF. i guess i'm just really confused in general about how this offseason went down across the board. WHY was Dunn so undesirable? Abreu? All the bigger named guys who havent or JUST recently signed? i'm just amazed how we completely avoided upgrading the starting rotation and are accepting Owens in CF. Because there is NOOOOOOOOOO MORRRRRRRRRRRREEEEEEEEEEE MONEYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY

QUOTE (kyyle23 @ Feb 12, 2009 -> 12:45 PM) You are assuming someone else would take on his contract when they could also explore the CHEAP ASS options on the free agent market Exactly. It's mind blowing what I'm reading. Time for everyone to go take Econ 101

You are speaking as if there are other options that KW can go acquire. There are none. There is no more money. There are no more options. For this year, this was his only course.

QUOTE (Jimbo's Drinker @ Feb 11, 2009 -> 12:50 PM) The White Sox even with Abreu had no chance of winning anything. The Angels are contenders, nuff said. Contenders to lose in the first round? Every team except the Yanks, Bosox and Rays (and even them to some extent) has a s***load of questions that can only be answered once the games begin.

What did we slug last year?

Where is biggest homer. I can remember when I won that award.

Hey why don't we just use rotoworld's suggestion and put CQ in center... haha

QUOTE (RockRaines @ Feb 3, 2009 -> 12:49 PM) Anyone remember when KW said at Soxfest that he was evisioning a "non-traditional" lead off hitter. Ozzie then comes out and says he wants someone who gets on base at the top of the order.... Just sayin. And I heard that this may be a done deal though that could be posturing. You just said you didn't think there would be any kind of shakeup. Now you're saying it could be a done deal? Color me confused. (Abreu added despite anything else happening would be a pretty big shakeup of some kind)

QUOTE (fathom @ Jan 30, 2009 -> 02:48 PM) It's just such a joke that the Sox actually think this is a good idea. Who said they think it is a good idea. I'm sure they'll blather on about their confidence in them, etc, but I doubt either KW or Ozzie think it is a good idea. They are limited by what they can do in payroll, and thats the bottom line. There are no other options.

QUOTE (knightni @ Jan 28, 2009 -> 09:10 PM) Is Fields the pink part or the stink part? Haha. I'm glad I'm not the only person who thought of that when I saw the title

Hard to believe ST is only a little over 2 weeks away.

QUOTE (TheBigHurt @ Jan 14, 2009 -> 10:36 PM) Get used to it? How long have you been a fan? I have BEEN used to it for years. It just sucks. If we start this season out with this rotation and still no leadoff hitter I'm officially writing off KW. There's just no excuse. And don't throw that "rebuilding" crap around. This team has a ridiculously high payroll with few good things to show for it. Hell, our BEST players are making pittance right now. It's mind-boggling. Someone needs to point out a team that's maintained worse than ours now so I can feel a little better. wat

I can't believe its been 6 years. Man the time has flown by.

Hell yah, let the AL East beat the hell outta each other. THat'll be fun to watch.

QUOTE (Hatchetman @ Dec 10, 2008 -> 02:06 PM) It's interesting that NY City is the epicenter of the economic crisis, but those two teams don't seem to be cutting back. The revenue that each team takes in them absolutely uncomparable as far as money goes. im sure with the economy they aren't doing super hot, but it's still the Yankees and people will still watch the Yanks play and buy stuff and advertise on yanks tv (etc etc). Their revenue just isn't comparable to ours.

QUOTE (klaus kinski @ Dec 10, 2008 -> 02:09 PM) Every year we get fired up for Winter Meetings and GM Meetings and all we get to hear about is Cub acquisitions and rumors. I am disappointed-we have gaping holes-and all we hear about is payroll. We had a huge huge payroll last year. It's not like this is something we have been strapped by in 3-4 years.

QUOTE (EvilJester99 @ Dec 10, 2008 -> 01:49 PM) KW was on the Score update saying he believes his team currently can win the division as the team stands... now of course what else is he going to say but I sure hope he doesn't really believe that. I'm not taking what he says at face value, as we have learned over the years, but if JR told him to cut payroll and he doesn't have anymore money to spend, what else is he supposed to do? Is he supposed to say that he doesn't believe the kids can get the job done, but there is nothing he can do about it because we are strapped on payroll? If he has no money to work with, he has to put on a brave face and say these kids can get the job done, even though I think everyone agrees here (including most likely KW) that counting on 5 young players who have not really stood out anywhere, won't get the job done. Sucks, but not much else that KW can say at this point. We just gotta hope we get some productivity from 1 or 2, hope the economy rebounds next year and go from there.

QUOTE (fathom @ Dec 7, 2008 -> 09:23 PM) 90 minutes until OC is potentially the biggest heel in Sox history. I doubt we'll hear before the morning, no matter which way it goes.

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Dec 7, 2008 -> 08:50 PM) The one flaw in KW's moves is our defense: Swapping Ramirez for Cabrera probably isn't an improvement Lillibridge at 2B might be better than Ramirez, but Alexei was pretty solid, especially the first 3-4 months before he wore down RF should improve if Quentin's there 3B definitely will be going downhill compared to Crede/Uribe LF could be a mess... That's not a great way to build the confidence of a young pitching staff! Something has to be done to shore up the middle of the field...Furcal at SS, Alexei back at 2B and Taveras/Lillibridge/Anderson in CF would make me feel a quite a bit more confident. If this goes through I don't think KW is particuarly worried with next year no matter what. I think he's willing to take a hit in a down economy of a terrible year to contend in 2010 on

QUOTE (fathom @ Dec 7, 2008 -> 08:33 PM) This is a first....someone implying that jphat is being pessimistic. I pretty much love everything that KW has done, but I would not like this move if it's one for one. Dye has just been too good.

QUOTE (Jimmywins1 @ Dec 7, 2008 -> 08:31 PM) So if this is true, do you think Bailey goes in as a lock for #4, or is he battling with Marquez, Poreda and Richard? If you trade one of our best hitters for a SP he better be in the rotation and he better play well

QUOTE (fathom @ Dec 7, 2008 -> 08:27 PM) My totally inaccurate and spur-of-the-moment Sox starting lineup for 2009 is: 1- Furcal SS 2- Ramirez 2B 3- Quentin LF 4- Thome DH 5- Konerko 1B 6- Abreu RF 7- Fields 3B 8- AJP C 9- Taveras CF I could MAYBE see one of 1 or 6, but not both. Then again I don't see either happening.