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QUOTE (ZoomSlowik @ Dec 9, 2011 -> 06:46 PM) On the court it's more talent, but age is a big factor since New Orleans killed any chance of competing for at least 3 years by trading Paul. Scola is 31, Odom is 32 and Martin is 28. They're going to have to reload a few years because none of those guys is a young piece you can rebuild around. The Nuggets on the other hand got Gallinari (23), Chandler (24) and Mozgov (25). Those guys were also cheaper, the trio New Orleans got makes almost $30 million combined. I hear you, but I think they are viewed as assets, not something to build your team around. There would be good interest on competing teams for all of those players.

QUOTE (SOXOBAMA @ Dec 9, 2011 -> 04:35 PM) There are many ways to cut cost.. Eat at home and not at the ball park take a train sit in the upper deck bring bottles of water with you to the park Also check stubhub for good seats at low prices.. In otherwords, take the fun out of going to a baseball game. Gotcha. I think i'll just watch at home, thanks. The reason for me to go to a park should go beyond fandom.

QUOTE (Iwritecode @ Dec 9, 2011 -> 04:25 PM) I don't think we're really that much worse than other sports fans. It's just that we are always compared to the other baseball team in town who are the one exception to the rule. How many other teams can manage to draw 3 million fans to watch a team win 60 games? Also, I don't care what that other fan was saying about affordable options...Sox games are really, really expensive. I went to the most games in 05, and that wasn't just because they were good, it was because it was the last affordable season.

QUOTE (Steve9347 @ Dec 9, 2011 -> 03:08 PM) Brandon Roy is expected to soon announce his retirement due to a degenerative knee condition, according to ESPN's Chris Broussard. That's just so unfortunate. that's awful. He was so fun to watch for so short a time. Best of luck.

I think playingnin Brooklyn would be pretty awesome

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Dec 9, 2011 -> 02:12 AM) The problem comes with the 27 teams that aren't in LA or NY. yeah, but they are subsidized by LA and NY

QUOTE (Soxbadger @ Dec 9, 2011 -> 02:08 AM) On what grounds, i can make up a million but my guess is something like: Hornets are owned by NBA as such the deal was "preliminary" and not "official" in that it had to be approved by XYZ. When presented to XYZ the deal was not approved and thus there never was any deal to kill. I'm honestly shocked though. The lakers are one of the teams that will share revenue with all the others, I'm shocked stern would screw them over. Pleased, but shocked.

On what grounds can he kill it though?

QUOTE (Soxbadger @ Dec 9, 2011 -> 01:52 AM) The Bulls can trade more value without the promise of Howard resigning. The question is how bad do you want to win. Do you take the risk? If the Bulls can get Howard at a reasonable rate, I wouldnt be completely opposed to taking the risk that over a season he decides he wants to sign with Chicago. I wouldn't make the trade unless he'd resign...but if you were the new Clippers owner or the rich soon-to-be brooklyn nets owner...wouldn't you take that chance?

QUOTE (Jordan4life @ Dec 9, 2011 -> 01:42 AM) Well KG didn't have the same power that Howard, a soon to be FA, has. That's all I was saying. The Wolves didn't have to settle for crap in fear they could lose him for nothing in a year. That's all I was saying. I understand that, but if you are orlando, would you rather have had the gasol odom package or the bynum...caracter...ummm trade.

QUOTE (Felix @ Dec 9, 2011 -> 01:32 AM) sick burnnnnnnnnnnn You can't come in and throw a grenade when your whole existence is just to shill for the timberwolves front office.

Because I was talking about what it took to put the original big 3 together. Now all it takes is some whining, and a team will take .20 on the dollar to trade them. They clearly could get more than Bynum for Howard. There are owners that would trade more than that for howard for 1 year, I guarantee it. But we have a world of NBA writers writing this s***: "But the reason they're able to deal for Kobe, for Odom, for Gasol, for Chris Paul and possibly Dwight Howard is because they have the pieces in place. Not because they make more money than anyone else (though this did help them hang onto Odom two offseasons ago), but because they have the parts." http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/blog/ball_dont...urn=nba-wp11564 This is atrocious.

That's fine, we'll sit back and chuckle at the Timberwolves play on the court.

QUOTE (Jordan4life @ Dec 9, 2011 -> 01:16 AM) Again, the player controls everything. If Howard says I'm not signing an extension with the Bulls, what are they to do? Howard seems like a front-runner to me, anyway. Much easier to team with Kobe, Paul, etc. Don't say "again" like you are refuting anything. Did I say it's wrong and bad because it's untrue, or did I say it's wrong because it's f***ed up that an awful package could net the best center in the league. You don't need to be a contrarian about things people aren't even arguing about.

I speak for probably a faction when I say it doesn't piss me off that howard may go to the lakers, it pisses me off that howard may go to the lakers for andrew bynum. That's not a real trade. At least with the bulls we are sending legitimate pieces. At least when the celts traded for garnett they could hang their hat on al jefferson. This is just collusion.

Seriously, how could this be a lock? How is andrew bynum fair value for the greatest center in basketball? What am I missing?

I really can't f***ing believe that LAL will be able to get howard with Bynum. WHY THE f*** WOULD YOU TAKE BYNUM for the BEST CENTER IN THE GAME THAT ACTUALLY PLAYS BASKETBALL ONCE IN A WHILE> THIS IS f***ING ABSURD

QUOTE (Steve9347 @ Dec 8, 2011 -> 10:01 PM) @blakegriffin: Hey guys I just got traded... @blakegriffin: Stupid autocorrec. I meant say I just got to Trader Joes, the grocery store. Gonna do some shopping. LOL, he rocks. was just about to post that. Was legitimately laughing in the office.

ORLANDO? When did they get money?

QUOTE (Jenksy Cat @ Dec 8, 2011 -> 10:10 PM) Then by that definition you would agree the Mavs were vastly better than the Heat? I'm not going to waste time on leading questions. Do i think the heat are vastly superiors to the bulls? No. Do i think the Heat's strengths overpower our strengths? Yes. It'd be easier if the Heat played s***ty defense, but they play great defense, and can put a 6'8 guy on rose that rose can't blow by. Thats a huge asset. And unfortunately, our PF couldn't match their PFs production at all. Do I wish the heat shot the way on the perimeter against us the way they did against the mavs? yes. But oh well.

QUOTE (Quinarvy @ Dec 8, 2011 -> 08:52 PM) Rose missed a shot at the clock one game. We blew a huge lead another. We had the only true blowout of the series, the others we lost in the last minutes. We had Rose, Boozer, and Noah on one leg each. Noah and Boozer hadn't developed chemistry yet. Omer Asik had a broken leg. Our sharpshooter went ice cold. And we were still in it. On the season, we were 4-4 against the Heat. The only game where everyone was truly "healthy" was Game 1 of the ECF. Add a legit SG to this team and we are equipped to the take the Heat down. Sorry, I don't buy it. Closing games is a huge difference between winning and losing. It was the difference between us and the pacers, and it was the difference between us and the Heat. edit: I don't want to come across as uber negative on the bulls. But that series wasn't close. When you lose in 5 games, it wasn't close. I'm optimistic the bulls will be much improved by merely being together another year and being young, however, I don't buy that "we were a few shots shy of beating the heat"

QUOTE (ZoomSlowik @ Dec 8, 2011 -> 08:34 PM) The only scenario I've seen involved Amare going elsewhere. I'm not really sure how that'd work though for two reasons: 1) I can't see the Hornets having much interest in Amare 2) With the new CBA rules, it's financially beneficial to become a free agent rather than sign an extension in season. I don't remember the exact rules, but it's something like you can only sign a 2 year extension right now instead of 4. No doubt. It's annoying to me that we keep having these pipe dream new york knick plans forced down our throats.

??? I haven't seen the reports but what the hell would NYK be trading to get CP3 while still keeping amare and gaining chandler. edit: i could have sworn this was responding to someone?

QUOTE (Palehosefan @ Dec 8, 2011 -> 09:19 PM) So the Knicks want to replace Amar'e with a 15-16M per year Chandler? Sounds about right. but you have to admit that CP3, Melo, and Tyson would be formidable.