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It would be a really good idea honestly. With the NL DH news it also seems pretty possible. That Schwarbs can play a passable outfield is helpful with vaughn. BA also had vaughn as likely to be in minors for most of year, so at this point I do think DH is a place we should use the market to really balance our RHP.

This is true but to be fair this is using information from schaumburg/instructs.

I think most of us just don't think home away splits are a thing. Way overanalyzed for coors hitters. There are a few places I think it matters (lemahieu unlikely to repeat his power outside of yankee stadiums short rf fence) but most hitters hit better at home.

He ran into a wall and needed his spleen removed. He injured his ribs and was out two months. Broke his foot. And now shoulder surgery. I don't think pointing out a player can't stay healthy is a personal insult to him.

It's really this. I'd buy the talent for sure if this was even the 2020 season. But we are talking about a guy whose healthy years are about 100 games. Sometimes they grow out of it, but this guy makes JD Drew look like cal ripken.

From the BA Rule 5 Preview I would imagine he is not likely to get selected, and now I kinda hope not because this is interesting! " McClure showed up to Chicago’s instructional league program much improved after working with White Sox biomechanics specialist Ben Hansen. The changes he made showed in a fastball that had bumped up to 92-95 mph. He pairs it with a slider that flashes above average and a curveball that could get to average. McClure put up some of the best numbers at Camelback Ranch (where the White Sox hold spring training) and could be worth a look in the big leagues." figured this could be interesting to the futuresox crew so tagging @Y2Jimmy0

Lets just re-write constitution to allow us to elect Shinzo Abe.

I'm so sorry to hear, praying for recovery.

Just as it seemed he may have a real shot at the HOF. RIP to a great.

Man I am excited to see our HS guys in the minors this year. I hope Kanny includes Dalquist, Thompson and Kelley.

I wonder how Paddy has viewed Asia pipeline.

I thought they demoted him last year? Was that 2 years ago?

Iglesias could be a nice buy-low...but he's been awful and the reds have plenty of support to turn around pitchers. I don't blame them for not wanting to pay arb for an underperforming closer, where they will make too much.

He's been ok against Righties in his career (average). If you use Engel/Leury against LHP starters, what you are banking on isn't insane offense (though it could happen), it's he would be an insane RF. I don't know that that is a bad idea. I'd prefer joc because he also should be pretty good in RF, it has graded out as his best position in OAA the last several years. But I'm ok sacrificing getting plus offense in RF if it means great defense, and I think Joc should be good next year but it may not happen

One other thing is it pretty much puts stiever at what we saw now, 92-93. I'm going to guess that's not just majors but also what he was in Schaumburg considering so much of the other reports were based on schaumburg notes.

There are other teams that exist outside the cubs.

The list is pretty what you'd expect but those with BA subscriptions, the scouting reports are really great. Clearly lots of stuff pulled from Schaumburg, and it makes sense all the hitters and pitchers in top ten were there. Here is one last tid bit on Thompson, whom they call "the best athlete in the system": "Thompson’s fastball now sits 92-95 mph and touches 97 with carry through the strike zone. He’s always shown an advanced feel to spin the ball, and now his curveball is a bona fide plus pitch in the low 80s with better-defined break. His changeup is a clear third pitch but flashes average. Thompson’s whippy arm action limits his control to fringe-average, but he throws enough strikes to project a starter."

I'll give one cool note on vaughn: "When Vaughn joined the White Sox, the team wanted to install a concrete, day-to-day routine that would help him manage the grind of professional baseball. He settled on one that featured a front-flip drill designed to keep his legs underneath him during his swing, and evaluators inside the organization say it has helped him become a better hitter. Vaughn does an excellent job keeping his upper and lower halves synced throughout the course of his swing."

You could probably fill out the best tools section in your sleep. https://www.baseballamerica.com/teams/1026/chicago-white-sox/organizational/?year=2021&type=P Pretty chalk which is fine 1. Vaughn 2. Kopech 3. Madrigal 4. Dunning 5. Crochet 6. Kelley 7. Thompson 8. Stiever 9. Dalquist 10. l Gonzalez I think I'm going Thompson over Dalquist, but i'm sure for them these lists are pretty hard with little to go off of.

That's not what he said, he said the league told teams to proceed as if it won't happen. Just a matter of league and players union continuing their horrible negotiations.

I am still trying to understand if this winter meetings is less arbitrary than the already arbitrary winter meetings as a time period to sign players.

After Springer's premiere bat, there are two "bat-specific" additions that match up very well to what sox need. Positionally, unfortunately, they don't. One is Brantley, the other is LaStella. If they got LaStella here, I'd spell his name right (space?) but also be very happy.

Thank you. I just want to be clear what we are arguing because it is getting obscured over whether this is an isolated case, (springer has preferences) or the capstone on what we've had to deal with since last year - the sox will not sign a premier deal (and springer honestly is getting rumored to make less than justin upton in 2016 so this is a pretty good deal. I can live without Springer if it's just "sox would rather build a high end pitching staff and spend on it. But this is "springer high contract scared them away"...again. And there is something so annoying about them thinking 16 million for a 37 year old DH is not scary or wasteful but 25 mill for springer in 2025 is terrifying.

That will be 40 mill plus, I promise you I can make a better team with 40 mill than what you listed. I can't wait for colome to get signed for $14 million and have his shoulder injuries start in spring training.

"The right thing to do" is not a statement that can be followed. What is not the right thing to do? Tear Springer away from his love of center field? Because I don't buy for a second they think it's a poor allocation of money because of their total budget, they've lost all benefit of the doubt there. And if you are trying to convince me that Garret Richards + Joc is better than like Mike Leake + Springer, I am not sure I trust the white sox objectively horrible FA scouting to believe that to be true.