Rex Hudler

The comparison was based on their readiness for immediate success in the Majors. They both did well right off the bat, and I think Cotts is as ready as they were. I also mentioned that even with a promotion now, Cotts may still need to start next year in AAA, so I am not leaving out long term implications either. I thought I had explained it quite well, not only in my post but when we talked earlier today. The comparison IS legit in every way. I have never once said Cotts is ready to become a Sox top starter right now, nor did I say he would begin next season in the rotation. I simply said that he is as ready as Wells and Buehrle were when they made their debuts, which were quite successful. Thank you

What kind of dumbass question is that?

You are comparing apples to oranges, michelle

If I recall correctly, Kip was 4-0 and pitched very well in the season he was first called up. I would consider that a very good example, thank you.

Cotts walked 4 guys in 7 innings. One of the walks was intentional, so in reality it was only 3. He definitely wasn't his best tonight. Didn't have great command, which led to the walks and 114 pitches in 6 innings. All that said, Cotts threw shutout ball for six innnings and only gave up two hits, on a night that he wasn't great. I think you can find some positive in that, without looking too hard. From a guy who has seen some pretty good prospects come through Birmingham, I can honestly say he is ready to move up. I am not saying that beginning the year in AAA may not be necessary, but like Buehrle and Kip Wells before him, he is definitely ready for a month in the Big Leagues. Not sure if anyone has noticed, but the run support he gets is s***. Not that the Barons score many runs for anybody, but its been really bad for Cotts lately.

One other note about waiver claims..... There are also times when teams will let a guy go by knowing he is about to be traded in a "gentleman's agreement" so that another time the player they want will be left alone. This may or may not be the case here, but it is possible. Perhaps KW owed someone a favor? Perhaps he felt that a swap of Benitez for Nelson didn't make that big of a difference for either team so he passed? There could be lots of reasons which of course we will never know unless KW wants us to.

Get over it, DA. I didn't hear you b****ing when they signed Carlos Castillo, did I? If they sign the guy to a minor league contract then what do you care? If the guy earns a promotion and helps the club then we are better off for it. I didn't hear ONE person call him a savior. This is a minor league signing, with the hope the guy might be able to help. If they catch lightning in a bottle then great. If he stinks up AAA, no harm done. You and HSC are wound WAY too tight on this one.

You could say exactly the same thing about Loaiza before the season began. Teams were certainly not lining up to get E-Lo. Sometimes you catch lightning in a bottle. The guy has had some success in the past. Is it set in stone he will report directly to the Sox? Might he be a AAA sign to see if he has enough left?

You are correct.

The Sox are 11-13 or 12-13 when their 5th starter takes his turn. Not giving anything away.

Yeah, let's not pick up anybody that had over a 5.00 ERA last year. That would be stupid...... oh wait, didn't Loaiza have an ERA over 5.00 last year? Let's cut Esteban right now, realizing our mistake. He can't be good because he sucked last year. I look at his numbers in Seattle and see a pretty respectable reliever. Obviously he struggled in Detroit, but I wouldn't complain about his Seattle numbers.

If it is, it will be Riviera.

Barons had 6 freakin errors...... twas ugly

Plus when not injured at Charlotte he's gone 0-3 with an era of 6.15. I would discount that because he hasn't been right since taking that line drive off the chest while pitching for the Sox.

Once again, try to pay attention....... Maybe read the Minor League boxscores thread on occasion..... Stewart has been on the DL and has not pitched since July 12.

I never really felt good about the Koch deal on any level, but I didn't hate it either. I took a wait and see approach to it, yet deep down I didn't think it was a great trade for the Sox. I hated to see the Sox give up on Joe because he can be so dominating, but at the same time heard Cotts was solid and was open-minded to the trade being good for the Sox at the MLB level, despite my initial fears. I recently spoke with one of the A's higher level scouts and he told me they weren't down on Valentine at all and that they still liked him. He ackowledged his control issues and struggles, but said they weren't worried long term. I agree with MSF and Cerb that his control is what will make him or break him in the Big Leagues. He has an excellent fastball and a nasty slider. Joe was truly a great guy and is a guy anyone would root for if they had met him. Time will tell whether he can get the walks under control well enough to succeed at that level.

Sweeney did get hit in the knee. He has since tweaked a hamstring. They are just be real conservative in bringing him back.

Sweet, thanks for the news...... Best of luck Joe.

Register, its free......

Heather, where ya been??

I like him and think he is doing a great job with a very young team. The Sox should have never let him get away.

It's a conspiracy!! LOL

KANNAPOLIS 2 AT CHARLESTON-SC 5 YTD YTD KANNAPOLIS AB R H BI AVG CHARLESTON-SC AB R H BI AVG A.Gonzalez SS 3 0 0 0 .234 J.Pridie CF 4 1 3 1 .268 P.Lopez 2B 3 0 1 0 .267 M.Maniscalco SS 4 1 1 1 .260 T.Brice RF 4 1 1 0 .279 W.Bankston RF 2 0 0 0 .286 J.Acevas 1B 4 0 1 0 .292 J.Gomes DH 4 0 0 0 .200 D.Ciraco CF 3 0 0 1 .251 V.Harrison 3B 4 1 2 1 .278 M.Christense DH 3 0 0 0 .227 E.Dukes LF 2 1 1 1 .246 J.Lackaff 3B 3 1 1 1 .183 B.Cordell 1B 3 0 1 1 .241 J.Terrell LF 3 0 1 0 .226 G.Merritt CAT 3 0 0 0 .107 G.Molina CAT 3 0 0 0 .245 E.Johnson 2B 3 1 1 0 .224 B.LaMura PIT 0 0 0 0 .000 N.DeBarr PIT 0 0 0 0 .000 A.Larson PIT 0 0 0 0 .000 R.Ellis PIT 0 0 0 0 .000 R.Garza PIT 0 0 0 0 .000 B.Henderson PIT 0 0 0 0 .000 N.Lubisich PIT 0 0 0 0 .000 TOTALS 29 2 5 2 TOTALS 29 5 9 5 KANNAPOLIS 0 0 0 1 0 0 0 1 0- 2 5 4 CHARLESTON-SC 0 2 3 0 0 0 0 0 X- 5 9 0 E--D.Ciraco, J.Lackaff, G.Molina 2. DP--KANNAPOLIS 1, CHARLESTON-SC 1. LOB--KANNAPOLIS 3, CHARLESTON-SC 7. 2B--J.Acevas (7). 3B--J.Pridie (5). HR--J.Lackaff (2). SB--P.Lopez (23), V.Harrison (11), E.Dukes (29). CS--J.Terrell, J.Pridie, M.Maniscalco, B.Cordell, G.Merritt. HBP-- E.Dukes. SF--D.Ciraco, E.Dukes. YTD IP H R ER BB SO HR ERA KANNAPOLIS B.LaMura (L,6-9) 3.0 5 5 2 1 2 0 3.55 A.Larson 3.0 2 0 0 1 2 0 3.58 R.Garza 1.0 1 0 0 2 0 0 3.63 N.Lubisich 1.0 1 0 0 1 0 0 2.60 CHARLESTON-SC N.DeBarr 4.0 3 1 1 1 2 0 4.15 R.Ellis (W,1-0) 4.0 1 1 1 1 2 1 4.91 B.Henderson (S,2) 1.0 1 0 0 0 0 0 1.61 HB--A.Larson. WP--B.LaMura. BALKS--N.DeBarr. PB--G.Molina. SO-- T.Brice, J.Acevas 2, G.Molina, W.Bankston, J.Gomes, B.Cordell, E.Johnson. BB--A.Gonzalez, P.Lopez, W.Bankston 2, B.Cordell, G.Merritt, E.Johnson. T--2:25. A--2814

Kanny loses, no box yet....... Great Falls wins, no box yet....... Bristol wins Game 1 in 11 innings, game 2 postponed... What a pitcher's duel! PULASKI 1 AT BRISTOL 0 DH GAME #1 (EXTRA INNINGS) YTD YTD PULASKI AB R H BI AVG BRISTOL AB R H BI AVG J.Acey DH 5 0 1 0 .279 C.Young CF 5 0 1 0 .299 E.Vancamper SS 5 1 3 0 .293 F.Lebron 2B 4 0 0 0 .236 J.Reiman 1B 5 0 1 0 .295 M.Bohlander PH 1 0 0 0 .240 N.Thomas LF 5 0 2 0 .286 R.Valido SS 5 0 0 0 .286 R.Diaz CAT 5 0 1 0 .389 M.Perez 1B 4 0 0 0 .299 J.Tingler CF 5 0 2 1 .272 M.Herring DH 2 0 0 0 .240 Y.Rodriquez RF 4 0 0 0 .304 E.Ramirez PR 0 0 0 0 .310 A.Ponce 3B 3 0 0 0 .220 E.Ramirez DH 0 0 0 0 .310 V.Esposito PH 1 0 0 0 .272 J.Schmidt 3B 4 0 2 0 .189 J.Salas 3B 0 0 0 0 .286 C.Castillo CAT 3 0 1 0 .208 E.Sena 2B 4 0 1 0 .209 M.Rodriguez LF 2 0 0 0 .179 B.Grant PIT 0 0 0 0 .000 J.Rivera RF 3 0 0 0 .224 J.Canizal PIT 0 0 0 0 .000 J.Marshall PIT 0 0 0 0 .000 J.Rodriguez PIT 0 0 0 0 .333 O.Lopez PIT 0 0 0 0 .000 F.Castro PIT 0 0 0 0 .000 TOTALS 42 1 11 1 TOTALS 33 0 4 0 PULASKI 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 1- 1 11 0 BRISTOL 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0- 0 4 1 E--F.Lebron. DP--PULASKI 1, BRISTOL 1. LOB--PULASKI 9, BRISTOL 6. 2B--C.Young (11), J.Schmidt (3), C.Castillo (2). CS--E.Sena. HBP-- M.Rodriguez. SH--Y.Rodriquez , C.Castillo, M.Rodriguez, J.Rivera. YTD IP H R ER BB SO HR ERA PULASKI B.Grant 7.0 2 0 0 1 3 0 3.66 J.Canizal (W,2-2) 3.0 1 0 0 1 5 0 5.40 J.Rodriguez (S,1) 1.0 1 0 0 0 1 0 5.04 BRISTOL J.Marshall 5.2 4 0 0 0 7 0 2.96 O.Lopez 4.1 4 0 0 0 1 0 0.50 F.Castro (L,4-2) 1.0 3 1 0 0 2 0 2.23 HB--B.Grant. WP--J.Marshall. SO--J.Acey 2, J.Reiman 2, N.Thomas, Y.Rodriquez 3, A.Ponce, E.Sena, C.Young, F.Lebron, R.Valido, M.Perez 2, J.Schmidt, M.Rodriguez, J.Rivera 2. BB--M.Herring, E.Ramirez. T--2:38.

W-S loses 6-1.... Spidale's avg on a free fall.... Wing with a so-so outing.... WINSTON-SALEM 1 AT WILMINGTON 6 YTD YTD WINSTON-SALEM AB R H BI AVG WILMINGTON AB R H BI AVG R.Yan 2B 4 0 2 0 .275 J.Shanks CF 3 2 1 1 .310 M.Spidale CF 2 0 0 0 .253 A.Blanco SS 3 1 0 0 .257 B.Becker DH 4 0 0 0 .265 P.Phillips CAT 2 0 0 0 .429 C.Rogowski 1B 4 0 0 0 .268 C.Fallon 1B 4 1 2 1 .275 E.Storey 3B 3 0 0 0 .262 R.Gotay 2B 4 0 0 0 .245 D.Holt LF 4 1 2 1 .254 T.Dyson LF 4 0 1 0 .286 M.Morse SS 4 0 1 0 .244 J.Cowan DH 4 0 2 1 .274 C.Stewart CAT 1 0 0 0 .216 A.Keim 3B 3 0 0 0 .235 W.Rosa CAT 3 0 0 0 .226 J.Draper RF 2 2 1 0 .234 N.Martel RF 3 0 0 0 .279 C.Tierney PIT 0 0 0 0 .000 R.Wing PIT 0 0 0 0 .000 E.Villacis PIT 0 0 0 0 .000 B.O'Neal PIT 0 0 0 0 .000 R.Morrison PIT 0 0 0 0 .000 J.Castro PIT 0 0 0 0 .000 TOTALS 32 1 5 1 TOTALS 29 6 7 3 WINSTON-SALEM 0 0 0 0 1 0 0 0 0- 1 5 4 WILMINGTON 0 1 2 0 0 0 3 0 X- 6 7 0 E--E.Storey, W.Rosa 3. DP--WINSTON-SALEM 1, WILMINGTON 0. LOB-- WINSTON-SALEM 7, WILMINGTON 6. 2B--C.Fallon (26). HR--D.Holt (9). SB--R.Yan (62), A.Blanco (9), C.Fallon (4), J.Cowan (2). CS--P.Phillips. HBP--M.Spidale, P.Phillips. SH--A.Blanco. YTD IP H R ER BB SO HR ERA WINSTON-SALEM R.Wing (L,9-5) 6.0 6 3 3 3 4 0 2.78 B.O'Neal 1.0 1 3 1 1 1 0 4.54 J.Castro 1.0 0 0 0 1 0 0 1.27 WILMINGTON C.Tierney (W,5-9) 5.0 3 1 1 2 3 1 3.79 E.Villacis 3.0 1 0 0 0 2 0 2.75 R.Morrison 1.0 1 0 0 0 1 0 3.92 HB--B.O'Neal, E.Villacis. WP--R.Wing. BALKS--R.Wing. SO--R.Yan, M.Spidale, B.Becker, E.Storey, M.Morse, W.Rosa, A.Blanco, R.Gotay 3, A.Keim. BB--M.Spidale, E.Storey, J.Shanks, P.Phillips, A.Keim, J.Draper 2. T--2:45. A--6062