Rex Hudler

June 13 was his first start this year. Porblem is Winson-Salem has been jammed with guys who are ahead of him and with some guys who could have or should have been in AA by now. Honel, Wing, Francisco, Allen and Phillips are all guys that could be ready to move up. Phillips was supposed to start the season in AA and Allen was considered for spot until late in camp. The other guys have pitched really well and moved ahead of those two.

I definitely see Stumm as a guy the Sox will protect. They say he just has nasty stuff and if he stays healthy the sky is the limit for him. He has just had lots of bad luck.

Wasn't Carlton Fisk's rookie in 1972? Wasn't Cecil Cooper on that card as well or am i thinking of someone else. I know Cooper had someone else that was also a great player on his rookie card. I was a big Coop fan back in the early 80's. I had one of those, but have no idea where it is now.

Josh, I don't even know where the cards i have left are. Most likely up in my parents attic or something (how many times have you heard that story? lol). When I was a youngin, my mom made me give away all my cards because they were just sitting in a grocery bag (this was before plastic sheets and holders became the norm) taking up space. The two bags I gave away had mostly 1975-1977 cards in them. Then, I started collecting again and buying old cards, one at a time. I had a nice little stack of about 30 cards or so which included all the best players from the 1960's. I had a '65 Mantle and Mays, a '66 Rose, '60 Aaron and Musial, '67 Bob Gibson and so on. I had them all from Koufax and Drysdale to Marichal and Whitey Ford. So as any dumb 12 or 13 year old would do, I sold them because I wanted an Atari (insert joke here). The asshole that bought them talked me down to $75 for the stack too. I was asking $125. I still shake my head at what those cards would be worth today, not only $$ but just having them. Hell, i'd probably have them framed. lol

MSF, i just don't think that Everett was a necessary piece to the puzzle. Yes, he has contributed, but who is to say that someone else would not have? I may be wrong and if I am then great, that means the Sox are winning and he is contributing. I just think that Alomar was the only necessary move and that the Sox would have won without him. We'll never really know, but you gotta give me some credit for sticking to my guns on this one. I have had the same stance since the night of the trade and will keep it until I have to admit I was wrong, which, when the time is right, I will if necessary. And at least give me a little credit for the bag of balls, case of old style and vienna beef hot dogs line. That was pretty creative, don't ya think? LOL

I believe this is how it will work with Frank next year...... Frank has the right to renew his option with the Sox at $6 million. If he declines, the Sox have the option to renew his contract at $8 million. If both decline, he is a free agent and can walk away. I know the $6 M and $8 M are the correct totals, but someone correct me if I am wrong on how the options work. Note: The option values for 2005 are $8M for Frank and $11M for the Sox. In 2006, Frank's option is $10M and the Sox option is $12M. Frank can also receive up to $2M in bonuses with a Top 10 MVP finish. I think Frank still has an escape clause of some sort if the Sox pick up the $8 Million option next year. I just don't remember what has to transpire for him to invoke it. That is correct. I forgot to include that..... He can void the whole contract after this year...

Lubisich....... 6-2, 190...... 24 yrs old.. Repeating Low A CAREER PITCHING RECORD YR CLUB LG Class W-L .PCT ERA G GS CG SHO GF SV IP H AB TBF R ER HR SH SF HB BB IB SO WP BK AVG AGAINST 01 Bristol APPY R 5-2 .714 2.83 11 11 2 1 0 0 70.0 65 255 274 26 22 2 2 3 2 12 0 49 0 2 .255 02 Kannapolis SAL A 9-3 .750 2.79 34 13 2 1 7 0 122.2 123 464 505 45 38 3 6 6 3 26 2 81 2 0 .265 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- MINOR LEAGUE TOTALS 14 .737 2.80 24 2 0 188 779 60 8 5 2 2 5 45 4 7 192.2 719 71 5 9 38 130 2

This is all I could dig up..... Looks like he had a prety good year in Bristol last year, sans too many walks, so I am not sure why he is playing short-season rookie for a 3rd year... He is also listed at 6-7 260 CAREER PITCHING RECORD YR CLUB LG Class W-L .PCT ERA G GS CG SHO GF SV IP H AB TBF R ER HR SH SF HB BB IB SO WP BK AVG AGAINST 01 White Sox ARIZ R 4-4 .500 3.10 13 13 0 0 0 0 58.0 56 226 277 46 20 2 1 6 10 34 0 53 6 3 .248 02 Bristol APPY R 3-0 1.000 2.44 12 12 0 0 0 0 55.1 38 194 236 23 15 2 0 2 3 37 0 44 6 1 .196

That is how I acquired the '83 Topps set. Pack by pack, with the exception of about 12 commons that I picked up at a card show in 90. As for the Baron's set, yes it is very similar. In fact, that thought crossed my mind before you pointed it out the first time. That's a nice looking set of cards. Your Gary Peters card is a 1966 Topps, right?

I believe this is how it will work with Frank next year...... Frank has the right to renew his option with the Sox at $6 million. If he declines, the Sox have the option to renew his contract at $8 million. If both decline, he is a free agent and can walk away. I know the $6 M and $8 M are the correct totals, but someone correct me if I am wrong on how the options work. Note: The option values for 2005 are $8M for Frank and $11M for the Sox. In 2006, Frank's option is $10M and the Sox option is $12M. Frank can also receive up to $2M in bonuses with a Top 10 MVP finish.

supposedly........ but not with a lot of control.. he was a project coming out of HS in Arkansas, if i recall correctly

Don't know a lot about him myself. Time for Chisoxfn or MSF to jump in here.

That was the whole line.

Ulacia and Rylan Reed both with good outings........ yet, Great Falls falls 3-1.... HELENA 3 AT GREAT FALLS 1 YTD YTD HELENA AB R H BI AVG GREAT FALLS AB R H BI AVG G.Rodriguez 2B 4 0 0 0 .233 A.Gray 2B 1 0 0 0 .320 T.Trofholz CF 4 2 2 0 .362 A.Gray 3B 3 0 0 0 .320 L.Palmisano CAT 3 0 0 0 .379 R.Nanita CF 4 0 2 0 .375 V.Rottino 1B 4 1 2 1 .360 M.Myers SS 3 0 1 0 .310 M.Ramirez DH 4 0 1 1 .359 C.Lee DH 4 0 1 0 .318 R.Deevers RF 3 0 0 0 .301 S.Morris RF 4 1 1 0 .263 J.Barnes 3B 3 0 1 0 .269 C.Lisk CAT 4 0 3 0 .286 N.Carter LF 3 0 0 0 .268 C.King LF 4 0 1 1 .261 A.Gomez SS 3 0 0 0 .192 C.Kelly 1B 3 0 0 0 .217 M.Stetter PIT 0 0 0 0 .000 C.Kelly 3B 0 0 0 0 .217 K.Durost PIT 0 0 0 0 .000 B.Hodges 2B 2 0 0 0 .000 N.Slack PIT 0 0 0 0 .000 B.Bounds PH 1 0 0 0 .326 B.Bounds 1B 0 0 0 0 .326 D.Ulacia PIT 0 0 0 0 .000 R.Reed PIT 0 0 0 0 .000 TOTALS 31 3 6 2 TOTALS 33 1 9 1 HELENA 2 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 1- 3 6 0 GREAT FALLS 0 0 0 0 0 0 1 0 0- 1 9 0 DP--HELENA 0, GREAT FALLS 1. LOB--HELENA 2, GREAT FALLS 6. 2B-- V.Rottino (6), C.Lisk 2 (5). CS--L.Palmisano, J.Barnes, R.Nanita, M.Myers. YTD IP H R ER BB SO HR ERA HELENA M.Stetter (W,4-1) 5.1 5 0 0 1 6 0 2.70 K.Durost 1.0 3 1 1 0 0 0 4.58 N.Slack (S,6) 2.2 1 0 0 0 2 0 1.23 GREAT FALLS D.Ulacia (L,0-2) 5.0 3 2 2 0 7 0 8.10 R.Reed 4.0 3 1 1 1 5 0 4.63 WP--R.Reed. PB--C.Lisk. SO--L.Palmisano 3, V.Rottino, M.Ramirez, R.Deevers 3, J.Barnes 2, N.Carter 2, A.Gray 2, R.Nanita, S.Morris 3, C.King, B.Hodges. BB--L.Palmisano, M.Myers. T--2:14. A--4786

Honel's line from Game 2... PITCHER IP H AB TBF R ER HR CI SH SF HB BB IBB SO WP BK GS GF CG SHO CBO 0H 1H 2H 3H ERA Honel, Kris (W,8-5) 6.0 3 21 22 3 3 1 1 5 1 2.67

Wing's line from game 1 on Thursday night...... PITCHER IP H AB TBF R ER HR CI SH SF HB BB IBB SO WP BK GS GF CG SHO CBO 0H 1H 2H 3H ERA Wing, Ryan (W,9-3) 6.0 4 20 24 1 1 4 2 1 2.72

Nice outing by Lubasich.... DELMARVA 0 AT KANNAPOLIS 1 YTD YTD DELMARVA AB R H BI AVG KANNAPOLIS AB R H BI AVG L.Robinson 2B 4 0 0 0 .185 B.Ivy LF 4 0 2 0 .186 G.Alvarez SS 4 0 1 0 .260 A.Gonzalez SS 4 0 1 0 .231 R.Ruiz 1B 4 0 0 0 .310 T.Brice RF 3 1 1 0 .280 E.Sultemeier CF 3 0 1 0 .174 J.Acevas 1B 1 0 0 0 .304 N.Stephenson RF 3 0 0 0 .226 J.Lackaff 3B 2 0 0 0 .185 C.Harris LF 3 0 1 0 .333 P.Lopez PR 0 0 0 0 .266 M.Done DH 3 0 0 0 .222 P.Lopez 2B 0 0 0 0 .266 R.Diaz 3B 3 0 0 0 .250 J.Terrell DH 3 0 1 0 .225 M.Clendenin CAT 3 0 1 0 .083 G.Molina CAT 3 0 2 1 .249 R.Bartlett PIT 0 0 0 0 .000 D.Cook CF 3 0 0 0 .133 R.Stahl PIT 0 0 0 0 .000 L.Luna 2B 2 0 0 0 .179 J.Guzman PIT 0 0 0 0 .000 M.Christense 3B 1 0 0 0 .237 N.Lubisich PIT 0 0 0 0 .000 A.Larson PIT 0 0 0 0 .000 TOTALS 30 0 4 0 TOTALS 26 1 7 1 DELMARVA 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0- 0 4 2 KANNAPOLIS 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 1- 1 7 1 E--G.Alvarez, J.Guzman, J.Lackaff. DP--DELMARVA 0, KANNAPOLIS 0. LOB--DELMARVA 3, KANNAPOLIS 8. 2B--E.Sultemeier (3). SB--G.Molina (2). CS--B.Ivy 2. HBP--J.Acevas. SH--J.Acevas, P.Lopez. YTD IP H R ER BB SO HR ERA DELMARVA R.Bartlett 5.0 5 0 0 0 3 0 5.20 R.Stahl 2.0 0 0 0 3 1 0 5.67 J.Guzman (L,2-1) 1.1 2 1 1 2 0 0 3.20 KANNAPOLIS N.Lubisich 8.0 4 0 0 0 6 0 2.63 A.Larson (W,2-2) 1.0 0 0 0 0 1 0 3.59 HB--R.Bartlett. BALKS--R.Stahl. SO--L.Robinson, N.Stephenson 3, R.Diaz, M.Clendenin 2, A.Gonzalez, T.Brice, J.Terrell, D.Cook. BB--T.Brice, J.Acevas, J.Lackaff, J.Terrell, G.Molina. T--2:19. A--1886

I hope Sweeney is OK. If he has to sit out a long time b/c of this injury then i'm gonna be pissed. I'm sick of our good players in the Rookie leagues getting hurt. i.e. Anderson, Schnurstein, Sweeney, and Haigwood(injury happened before season). I just want to see our guys play and not have to sit out because of injuries. I think Sweeney alright. May be out for a short while. A day-to-day thing. Just a hunch.

Stumm has been excellent this year, until last night.

He definitely has a chance to be a solid situational lefty if he gets the chance to pitch. If he gets that chance, I think he will be fine. He could also be a guy that ends up stuck in AAA too.

I'm with you Yasny, the card collecting game changed when all of a sudden there were 15 companies producing them, they went to $5 a pack and all the special insert cards and series started. It became too confusing. It used to be fun to try and complete a set, buying them pack by pack. I hung in there when Donruss and Fleer joined the fray. When Upper Deck hopped in there, then Bowman again, Score, and Topps started the Stadium Club, yada, yada yada, I had to get out. I do have the Barons 2003 team set, however. Very reminiscient (sp?) of the 1975 Topps set (Brett, Yount, Rice and Lynn rookies)...

To clarify......... I don't think that adding Everett was a good move, even if it were for a bag of balls, a case of Old Style and a pack of Vienna Beef hot dogs.

No Sweeney for Bristol after getting hit by a pitch last night.... BRISTOL 3 AT MARTINSVILLE 14 YTD YTD BRISTOL AB R H BI AVG MARTINSVILLE AB R H BI AVG C.Young CF 3 0 1 0 .328 E.Babilonia SS 6 1 1 0 .247 M.Rodriguez PH 1 0 0 0 .161 M.Garza DH 4 3 2 1 .219 M.Rodriguez RF 0 0 0 0 .161 S.Torres 3B 4 3 3 2 .265 R.Valido SS 3 0 1 1 .281 K.Vital 1B 3 2 0 0 .247 E.Ramirez 2B 1 0 0 0 .321 E.Alcantara RF 4 3 4 5 .351 M.Perez 3B 3 0 1 0 .303 H.Sarabia LF 5 1 3 3 .280 J.Schmidt PH 1 0 0 0 .100 J.Acosta CAT 4 0 1 2 .207 J.Schmidt 3B 0 0 0 0 .100 M.Hudgson CF 5 1 2 0 .258 M.Herring DH 3 0 1 0 .275 L.Koenig 2B 5 0 0 0 .269 M.Lenderman CAT 4 0 0 0 .241 C.Douglass PIT 0 0 0 0 .000 S.Martin LF 4 1 1 0 .188 P.Estrada PIT 0 0 0 0 .000 M.Bohlander 1B 4 0 0 0 .254 R.Diaz PIT 0 0 0 0 .000 F.Lebron 2B 3 1 1 1 .243 F.Lebron SS 1 0 0 0 .243 J.Rivera CF 0 0 0 0 .228 J.Rivera RF 3 1 2 1 .228 J.Casey PIT 0 0 0 0 .000 D.Banks PIT 0 0 0 0 .000 J.Huchingson PIT 0 0 0 0 .000 Wasserman PIT 0 0 0 0 .000 TOTALS 34 3 8 3 TOTALS 40 14 16 13 BRISTOL 0 0 0 0 3 0 0 0 0- 3 8 1 MARTINSVILLE 0 2 3 4 1 1 3 0 X-14 16 0 E--J.Rivera. DP--BRISTOL 0, MARTINSVILLE 1. LOB--BRISTOL 5, MARTINSVILLE 9. 2B--S.Martin (4), J.Rivera (10), E.Babilonia (4), S.Torres 2 (10), E.Alcantara 2 (11), M.Hudgson (6). 3B--J.Rivera (1). SB--F.Lebron (7). HBP--S.Torres, E.Alcantara, J.Acosta. YTD IP H R ER BB SO HR ERA BRISTOL J.Casey (L,2-2) 3.2 7 8 8 2 5 0 4.88 D.Banks 1.1 5 2 2 1 2 0 8.71 J.Huchingson 1.2 4 4 4 1 0 0 19.06 Wasserman 1.1 0 0 0 0 2 0 0.00 MARTINSVILLE C.Douglass (W,4-1) 5.0 7 3 3 0 7 0 2.63 P.Estrada 2.0 1 0 0 0 4 0 3.55 R.Diaz 2.0 0 0 0 1 2 0 0.55 HB--J.Casey, J.Huchingson 2. WP--J.Casey, J.Huchingson, C.Douglass. PB--M.Lenderman. SO--M.Rodriguez, R.Valido 2, E.Ramirez, M.Perez 2, M.Herring, M.Lenderman 4, M.Bohlander, J.Rivera, E.Babilonia, S.Torres, K.Vital, M.Hudgson 3, L.Koenig 3. BB--M.Herring, M.Garza 2, K.Vital 2. T--2:55. A--823

Bad night for both Phillips and Stumm...... WINSTON-SALEM 3 AT MYRTLE BEACH 13 YTD YTD WINSTON-SALEM AB R H BI AVG MYRTLE BEACH AB R H BI AVG R.Yan 2B 5 1 1 0 .279 G.Blanco CF 3 2 2 1 .264 N.Martel CF 4 1 2 1 .272 A.Burrows LF 4 2 2 4 .286 B.Becker DH 4 0 2 1 .266 A.Marte 3B 5 2 3 3 .295 C.Rogowski 1B 4 0 0 0 .273 S.Thorman 1B 0 0 0 0 .249 M.Morse SS 4 0 0 0 .236 I.Iorg 1B 5 1 3 1 .278 E.Welsh LF 4 0 0 0 .252 B.Pena CAT 5 1 3 0 .320 D.Holt RF 4 1 2 1 .254 A.Herr 2B 4 2 1 0 .262 C.Stewart CAT 3 0 1 0 .213 Y.Peters DH 4 1 1 0 .181 D.Barnett CAT 0 0 0 0 .222 C.Duran RF 3 0 0 2 .214 C.Amador 3B 4 0 1 0 .185 T.Pena SS 4 2 2 0 .270 H.Philips PIT 0 0 0 0 .000 Z.Miner PIT 0 0 0 0 .000 J.Castro PIT 0 0 0 0 .000 D.Watkins PIT 0 0 0 0 .000 J.Stumm PIT 0 0 0 0 .000 P.Bush PIT 0 0 0 0 .000 B.O'Neal PIT 0 0 0 0 .000 TOTALS 36 3 9 3 TOTALS 37 13 17 11 WINSTON-SALEM 0 0 0 0 1 0 0 2 0- 3 9 2 MYRTLE BEACH 1 0 0 2 3 0 6 1 X-13 17 1 E--C.Amador 2, A.Burrows. DP--WINSTON-SALEM 1, MYRTLE BEACH 1. LOB--WINSTON-SALEM 7, MYRTLE BEACH 8. 2B--N.Martel (9), A.Burrows (2), A.Marte (28), I.Iorg (14), T.Pena (10). HR--D.Holt (7), A.Marte (12). SB--C.Amador (7). CS--G.Blanco. SF--C.Duran 2. SH--G.Blanco, A.Burrows. YTD IP H R ER BB SO HR ERA WINSTON-SALEM H.Philips (L,0-1) 4.1 11 6 4 0 2 1 8.31 J.Castro 1.2 1 0 0 0 1 0 1.08 J.Stumm 0.2 2 5 5 3 0 0 4.12 B.O'Neal 1.1 3 2 2 1 0 0 5.12 MYRTLE BEACH Z.Miner (W,6-6) 7.0 5 1 1 0 3 1 3.53 D.Watkins 1.0 3 2 2 0 1 0 2.03 P.Bush 1.0 1 0 0 1 0 0 4.47 WP--B.O'Neal 2. SO--C.Rogowski, M.Morse, E.Welsh, C.Stewart, G.Blanco, A.Burrows, Y.Peters. BB--D.Barnett, G.Blanco, A.Herr, Y.Peters, T.Pena. T--3:04. A--4246

Birmingham wins 4-1 behind a great performance by Mitch Wylie.... CHATTANOOGA (1) AT BIRMINGHAM (4) CHATTANOOGA AB R H BI BIRMINGHAM AB R H BI S Perez 2B 4 0 1 0 D Sandoval 2B 4 0 1 1 W Caceres SS 4 1 1 0 J Piniella LF 5 1 0 0 D Stenson 1B 4 0 2 0 J Reed CF 3 1 1 0 J Chamblee LF 4 0 2 1 G Alvarez 1B 4 1 1 1 G Senjem RF 3 0 0 0 S Bikowski RF 2 0 1 1 B Anderson PH 1 0 0 0 C Maldonado C 3 1 2 1 E Encarnacion 3B 3 0 0 0 J Hamilton DH 3 0 0 0 A Diaz CF 3 0 0 0 G Reyes SS 4 0 0 0 A Beattie DH 3 0 0 0 T Nicholson 3B 1 0 0 0 D Sardinha C 3 0 1 0 TOTALS 32 1 7 1 TOTALS 29 4 6 4 CHATTANOOGA 000 000 001 -- 1 BIRMINGHAM 100 100 20x -- 4 E--W Caceres 3. DP--CHATTANOOGA 1, BIRMINGHAM 2. LOB--CHATTANOOGA 4, BIRMINGHAM 10. 2B--C Maldonado, J Chamblee. SB--J Piniella 1 (10), T Nicholson 1 (1), D Sandoval 1 (14), J Reed 1 (9). S--J Hamilton, S Bikowski. IP H R ER BB SO HR CHATTANOOGA D Childress (L,0-3) 5 4 2 1 5 2 0 J Barreto 2 2 2 2 2 1 0 C Dehart 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 BIRMINGHAM M Wylie (W,3-3) 8 2-3 7 1 1 0 5 0 J Bullard (S,3) 1-3 0 0 0 0 0 0 SO--CAT: S Perez 2, A Beattie, A Diaz, G Senjem. BIR: J Piniella, S Bikowski, C Maldonado. BB--BIR: T Nicholson 3, S Bikowski, C Maldonado, D Sandoval, J Reed. T--2:38. A--5,125.