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Do we really think the breathing and stuff actually happened or is he lying and embellishing?

QUOTE (StrangeSox @ Jan 18, 2013 -> 12:46 PM) If you're asked about it, you're going to have to bulls*** something. He brought it up himself in at least one instance. And also embellished.

If you find out you are being conned why do you specifically talk about your fake girlfriend to the media 4 additional times? Their cover up is so blatant right now it's insulting.

QUOTE (Soxbadger @ Jan 18, 2013 -> 12:13 PM) Why? Because if he truly was conned, you just lie until the cows come home because you never want to admit that you were the dumbass who sent $50,000 to the beautiful model in Kenya so that she would come marry you in the US. Its just way easier to stick with, she is dead. There is an explanation for everything. I just havent heard a great motive for Te'o to do this from the start. There were plenty of other ways to get publicity, and trying to predict the "double death" would have been to speculative to really be a great plan. If you are duped or conned you don't expand the lie, you minimize it. He GREW the story even after he "found out". That's not being a victim. There is no arguing that.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jan 17, 2013 -> 01:45 PM) TY for sharing that. Wow that was an awesome write up.

QUOTE (Soxbadger @ Jan 18, 2013 -> 12:03 PM) I really think its Tuiasosopo's father. If you go to his church website, http://mountzionsite.com/special_event_pho...2/dsc_0026.html youll notice some odd things: SPORTS VIDEOS, SPORTS PAGE, RELIGIOUS TALENT VIDEOS These guys were trying to use their religious access to Samoans to get them to hire them as agents, etc. Look at the father's comment today: http://articles.chicagotribune.com/2013-01...page-manti-te-o (Edit) This was in response to Balta's post where it says Te'o want the first. The others I guarantee were Samoan's like the AZ Cardinals player, in an attempt to get money, access, whatever. But they already had access, they were family friends before the GF hoax.

QUOTE (Rowand44 @ Jan 18, 2013 -> 11:31 AM) 8 and 10 in the b10 will get Illinois in. Those Butler and Gonzaga wins are going to be something other bubble teams can't even come close to. They are definitely a tourney team, not even a question IMO. Just ILL fans going from one extreme to the other.

QUOTE (SOXOBAMA @ Jan 17, 2013 -> 09:12 PM) I don't believe anything that comes out of Te'o mouth about this issue. He's a loser He "found out" Dec 6th yet spoke about it several times afterwards while still pulling the emotional bulls*** for the media. He's a liar. There is no way he was duped or he wouldnt have continued to keep it up well into 2013.

http://www.buzzfeed.com/jpmoore/the-11-fis...tember?s=mobile

Badger you just love to argue. I envision you hitting post and saying to yourself, "boom, lawyered"

Melton is just now figuring out his ability, getting rid of him is stupid. Peppers is invaluable to this tea IMO.

QUOTE (witesoxfan @ Jan 17, 2013 -> 03:37 PM) Anybody who is upset over this is taking someone else's life too seriously. I'm not upset at all. I merely find it to be an absolutely fascinating human interest story with an incredible amount of loose ends and plot twists that I am squirming in my seat. This absolutely is better than a movie and it's actually happening in real life. IMO ND should have come out and disconnected themselves from him and let him take the bad press. Instead now people are going to be interested in digging into the cover up.

QUOTE (Steve9347 @ Jan 17, 2013 -> 03:12 PM) Oh Mr. Klosterman, thank you for always getting it right. Honestly, in my opinion, the best summary of the audacity of public reaction here. I think a lot of the outrage I've seen is because of what ND did to purposely cover this up and also the amount of public effort they put into this vs actual tragedies.

Article by an ND alum about this vs Seeberg http://m.washingtonpost.com/blogs/she-the-...han-a-real-one/

QUOTE (SOXOBAMA @ Jan 17, 2013 -> 01:38 PM) Deadspin ‏@Deadspin Manti Te'o's teammates had doubts all season about Lennay Kekua: http://deadsp.in/7j2wg8Z Saw this on another site. Could be fake but who knows.

Lennays twitter just said they are releasing a statement shortly.

Speaking of tmz http://www.tmz.com/2013/01/17/manti-teo-ro.../#ixzz2IFvSAooU

QUOTE (Jenksismyb**** @ Jan 17, 2013 -> 10:53 AM) Eh, that got some play for a while. But suicides are common, even if sad and pathetic on the part of ND. This story with Te'o is so unique. I'm not sure if there's ever been anything like it. I think the sad thing is ND reportedly hired someone to investigate this situation but swept hers under the rug.

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Jan 17, 2013 -> 10:49 AM) I think it was for cancer research, not any one individual. Correct for leukemia but donated in her name is what I read. I'm sure people are digging into that right now.

QUOTE (LittleHurt05 @ Jan 17, 2013 -> 10:36 AM) I get your point, but it's not just about an imaginary girlfriend. It's about the fake death of a supposed cancer patient being used as a motivational ploy for a player, team, & university. As he was winning awards left & right, the dead GF was part of the story. I also saw that over 1 million dollars were raised in her name for charity at ND.

QUOTE (GoSox05 @ Jan 17, 2013 -> 10:42 AM) Yes, Notre Dame is the only college football program that gets special treatment. So you think it's normal they sat on this story that long? I've seen them put out generally false stories about other programs without any research. Wouldn't releasing this before the title game get you a ridiculous amount of clicks?

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jan 17, 2013 -> 09:08 AM) http://www.thebiglead.com/index.php/2013/0...dia-blew-it-up/ Makes sense. Team leaders soul mate dies tragically and nobody on the team nor he visits for the funeral. Red flags.

QUOTE (lord chas @ Jan 17, 2013 -> 07:57 AM) Linebacker at Notre Dame needs to go online to meet girls? He's gay For 3 years mind you. Talking on the phone over 2 hours per day every day. That would be the mod dedicated scam artist ever.

QUOTE (zenryan @ Jan 17, 2013 -> 06:43 AM) well he and ND probably didnt want a huge distraction from the media if he came out saying it was a scam just days before the title game. Espn already had the story and sat on it. What other program would have gotten such treatment? If it was OSU they would have broke the story without even fact checking it.

Pretty good summation here http://m.outkickthecoverage.com/manti-teos...he-internet.php