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Agreed. It's a collective bargaining where both sides are trying to get al they can. Just get back to playing baseball.

Lies, Lies. He is a billionaire owner.

Goes where it always does when Jack gets rolling. People that own companies or have money are evil and they should give their money to others who don't have as much money.

While it is on the table, it won't happen until the union agrees to a hard cap like the other leagues have. That's when you need to show the books and show the revenue to find that split. That is a bargaining chip the owners have to get the hard cap. The revenue is almost there anyway. Someone stated earlier that the players get 47% of the revenue. That's pretty good for about 20% of the workforce.

When unions are involved there is no such things. It's what can be collectively bargained. There is no right and wrong, no black and white. It's what can be agreed upon. If it can't be agreed upon, it's what the mediator or arbiter can force them to agreed to.

How about pigs instead. They are a bigger money producer as the turn over faster than cattle. The stats are much more volatile and track faster. Problems is they are messy and nasty to deal with.

That is exactly what he is paid to be, the lightning rod so the owners don't need to take it. He has zero voting rights when it comes to making an agreement. He doesn't hold power over the owners.

That will part of the negotiation for returning. How much they get paid , how much service time. They can always grant them everything that goes with a full season.

This. Manfred is just a mouth piece for the owners. He doesn't actually make any of the decisions. He just works for the owners to get a vote from them. The animosity towards him is puzzling. He just spins the owners decisions.

Been there, done that when the kids were younger.

They players will give the playoffs to the owners if they get paid their full salary regardless of games played.

I'll be the creepy old man at the high school games, enjoying the game and not knowing anyone.

Yup. As I said before any of this started, with Boras running the players this was probably going to be a bad one.

The athletic trainers will work with the minor league players. They get injured too. In fact, they are already at Spring Training.

Last year it was 91 in AL and 83 in NL.

Injury is a good reason to back off. It wrecks the best of plans.

Agreed. Crochet will be in the Kopech role of last year, hopefully he can handle the increased load and not have too many injuries. If he does it will set him back just like Kopech. Kopech should make 24 starts or so with his innings limit based on last years workload. Maybe someone like Lopez picking up the others as a spot starter.

Thats the pros of the minors. The pros of MLB is you have a pitcher who can get MLB hitters out and he will learn and develop faster to get MLB hitters out. If he went 3 innings a game his season would have been over in July with his innings limit. Do you pitch a guy more innings and end his season early or fewer innings and go the length of the season to build endurance?

I don't think it mattered if they pitched in the minors or majors last year. Both were on a strict innings limit due to previous lack of innings. Especially Crochet, he had pitched so few innings he would have been on a reliever innings limit in either situation. Neither could be "stretched out" too much. This was in response to "everyone agrees they should have been in the minors." Either situation would have worked with pros and cons to both.

I continue to disagree.

That still doesn't raise the average salary much when 3 teams will go near the cap.

I still don't see how raising the threshold does anything more than cause greater disparity for the players and the teams. There is no reason that the cap should be higher than an NFL cap. It wouldn't help the vast majority of players or teams.

215 is higher than the hard cap of 208 for the NFL and the NFL brings in more revenue. I don't see that number as being out of line.

I think the pandemic really changed the way many organizations are thinking about preparing players for the MLB. There were many reports that the players that had the best opportunities to make the MLB received better instruction and development in the off site training as opposed to spending the vast majority of their time in games with the current MiLB set up. I think this is the second step, the first was decreasing the number of minor league teams, in phasing out the current development system. They didn't just want to end on MiLB teams as it could be catastrophic to lose all of that employment overnight.

I think it's more holding it over the union until the union agrees to a hard salary cap. No reason to show the books until the is a reason to. If the players get 47% of the revenues as you said earlier then the basic numbers are out there already.