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QUOTE(Frankensteiner @ Jun 23, 2006 -> 09:50 PM) Man, he's really pitching himself out of that Cy Young spot. Sigh. With all due respect.....I couldn't give a f*** less about individual awards, I want another ring. Hopefully we get a win tonight.

Damnit, get Count out of there, completely out of gas. Please hold it pen. This was Yankees Jose tonight.....we're lucky to have the lead, hopefully the pen can hold it.

Count can't put anybody away tonight due to the lack of control.

Contreras with a QS as of now....6 and 3. Count is at 99 pitches through 6, so we'll see if he comes out for the 7th. I'd guess he will.

Jose isn't hurt, he's just had bad location tonight. His stuff has been fine....he's allowed to have a couple of subpar starts after all, and he still might get a QS tonight anyways. Lane missed that pitch by a lot, 2 outs.

Wow that wasn't a very good pitch.

QUOTE(Rowand44 @ Jun 23, 2006 -> 09:21 PM) That's a very, very hard play though. The ball was up in the air for so long that it was very hard to time that perfectly. It definitely could have been made but a lot of left fielders don't get that ball. That's the ONLY reason I say he should have made it. I almost never say you should catch a homer, but he had all day to time that thing and he just missed it.

QUOTE(BigSqwert @ Jun 23, 2006 -> 09:20 PM) You still don't blame Scotty for Berkman's HR. That's all Jose. If Pods catches it, the inning is over. Whose to say Berkman homers to lead off the 6th.

QUOTE(BigSqwert @ Jun 23, 2006 -> 09:18 PM) ERA at 3.10 now That was a 2 run HR. If Pods catches that Burke ball (which although a homer, he does if he doens't f*** up the timing), Berkman never bats that inning.

Well Pods gave us 4, and immediately gave 3 back. Ugh.

Clearly the Tigers were stealing signs tonight, scoring 10 on that mighty Redbird pitching staff.

Do the f***ing sorry ass Cardinals and their beat writers think the Tigers stole signs tonight since they scored 10?

Just for reference and comparison (I ordered them based on how good they are IMO btw, lol)..... Sox Staff: 1. Contreras (yeah....not bad) 2. Buehrle (very good 2) 3. Garcia (solid 3) 4. Vasquez (solid 4) 5. Garland (bad ERA, but productive recordwise and better lately) Pen: Jenks B-Mac Cotts Thornton Riske Montero (soon to be Politte) Tigers Staff: 1. Rogers 2. Bonderman 3. Verlander 4. Robertson 5. Miner (decent 5) Pen: Jones Zumaya Walker Rodney Colon Grilli Cards: 1. Carpenter 2. Marquis 3. Ponson (now in Mulder's spot) 4. Suppan 5. Reyes (for now....) Pen: Isringhausen Looper Wainwright Flores Thompson Hancock Mets: 1. Pedro 2. Glavine 3. Trachsel 4. El Duque 5. Soler Pen: Wagner Sanchez Bradford Heilman Oliver Feliciano The difference in the qualities of staffs is pretty noticeable IMO, ESPECIALLY the starters after 1 and 2.

QUOTE(Steff @ Jun 23, 2006 -> 02:02 PM) Oh it wasn't going to be about you.. Which is why I rescind my last post, I am actually a perfect human being who treats others with respect at all times.

QUOTE(Steff @ Jun 23, 2006 -> 01:58 PM) Oh I could make one hellofa comment here... :rolly I am not pathetic, only judgemental. 1 out of 2 ain't bad.

When your approval rate gets down to where it's been with Bush and the war, it has to eventually go up.

QUOTE(hammerhead johnson @ Jun 23, 2006 -> 01:44 PM) St. Louis, Cincinatti, and Milwaukee are good offensive teams. The NL Central is a pretty strong division, hitting-wise. Did you see the Team OPS post, or no? Baltimore is actually 15th. You have 7 NL teams ranked in the Top 15. It's not that the NL sucks at hitting, it's just that the AL (particularly the East, Good God) is so much crazier. The NL freaking sucks at pitching though. Even their 2 best teams by far (Mets, Cardinals) have a lot of issues in their rotation after 1 and 2, and even with the DH to deal with, AL pitching is probably better than NL.

QUOTE(Steff @ Jun 23, 2006 -> 01:53 PM) The "thug" image and the Sox have gone hand and hand since the members of NWA used to sport our gear. Yeah that is definitely true, and it does show the ignorance of people. Apparently all our fans are thugs, gang bangers, jail birds, and homeless/unemployed/both since some rappers wear our gear. Pretty pathetic and judgemental, but hey people are often those 2 things.

QUOTE(kapkomet @ Jun 23, 2006 -> 01:36 PM) I did a long, long time ago. Same here, everybody hates us since we are the complete opposite of the pathetic, loveable losers to the north whom embrace their sad state of affairs. Apparently winning and having confidence gets peoples panties in a bunch, becaues the hate we get goes far beyond Ozzie Guillen.

For the most part I agree with Hammerhead on WHIP being the most important ratio....it's kinda like OBP with batters, seeing how much your on base or in the case of a pitcher, how many baserunners you give up. The key for Zambrano is, unlike often times in the past, he isn't becoming rattled and going crazy when he gives up baserunners. There have been times in the past where his ERA didn't match what it should be based on his WHIP for long stretches since he'd just fall apart mentally when there were men on base, but he's getting a lot better now in that category, and his ERA is showing it.

Count with try #2 to set the consecutive won decisions record....get it done boys!!

QUOTE(Spiff @ Jun 23, 2006 -> 01:31 PM) I can say from experience that this is true. Most Sox fans can actually....we're not the jailbird stupid asses that Cubs fans make us out to be, but we're not a bunch of pussies either.

QUOTE(Steff @ Jun 23, 2006 -> 12:41 PM) We respond well to it. This is definitely a team that plays better with a chip. Agreed, and I kinda like it when everybody hates us.....I grew up with it since it was such a Cubs boner of an area in the late 90's and early 2000's, so it's fun to be hated again. I don't give a f*** what people think of us, were supposedly the bad ass team with weird fans in the bad area anyways, nothing wrong with being the misunderstood renegades that will kick your ass.

QUOTE(Melissa1334 @ Jun 23, 2006 -> 12:11 PM) i'll take jenks over ryan and rivera any day. yea, rivera is one of the best ever and has all that postgame exp. but jenks has a ring too. I can go with taking Jenks over Ryan, especially since he's younger and cheaper.....but not Rivera. As for Turnbow, Turnbow AND Jenks were given away on waivers by the Angels, wonder how they feel about that right about now.

QUOTE(Rowand44 @ Jun 23, 2006 -> 01:32 AM) Uh oh. Pedro Gomez has been reassigned to Roger Clemens. Apparently you have to be a blimp sized 40 something HGH using future hall of famer to get Pedro's attention.