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The Wildlings are absolute savages. The Thenns were the only ones with some form of hierarchy because they were descendants of the first men. They're still barbarians that rape women. They just do it with primitive armor.

QUOTE (Eminor3rd @ Apr 21, 2014 -> 10:59 AM) What makes you say this? Your opinion is fine, but you've got to back it up for people to take it seriously. Not trying to be a jerk, just need an actual argument for why they are meaningless in order to refute all of the research that shows otherwise. No I actually don't need an argument to prove this. 100 years of baseball proves it. Defense has always been judged by the eye test. The burden of proof is on you and your stats, not me and my eyes. I can watch a guy like Avi Garcia for 5 minutes and tell you he's a horrible defender. I don't need stats for that.

QUOTE (Feeky Magee @ Apr 20, 2014 -> 09:57 PM) Just looking at his advanced fielding stats, they have him killing it at SS and 3B, but pretty damn bad at 2B. Any theories on this or is it solely sample size? Defensive stats are absolutely meaningless. The only good tool to judge defenders is your eyes.

QUOTE (South Side Fireworks Man @ Apr 20, 2014 -> 02:18 PM) Is this the same Tyler Flowers from the past couple of seasons? First time he's been healthy for a long time.

QUOTE (greg775 @ Apr 20, 2014 -> 12:54 AM) Konerko has had a much better career than Dunn. Is that even up for debate? Dunn has been the better hitter.

QUOTE (greg775 @ Apr 18, 2014 -> 11:20 PM) Stats don't lie. I would have cursed this post earlier but now it's accurate. It's Beckham time as soon as possible. Anytime a player dips under .200 there's a problem. Beckham is hitting .176... In AA.

Putman, or whatever his name is, is a god damn hero.

QUOTE (chitownsportsfan @ Apr 18, 2014 -> 04:15 PM) I would just roll with Semian everyday at this point and trade Gordon for a bag of balls. No team is going to look at Gordon Beckham's 2400+ PA in MLB with a OPS+ of 85 and think a month or two hot streak is who he really is. What, we're going to inflate his value from a C- prospect to a C+ one? There are obviously some people that are too invested in Beckham to see this makes the most sense.

QUOTE (Hawkfan @ Apr 18, 2014 -> 03:27 PM) At what point do we start taking something? I want it said here and now, so we'll be able to move forward one day. The general consensus has always been 1000 AB's unless a guy is clearly overwhelmed, which Semien isn't.

QUOTE (witesoxfan @ Apr 18, 2014 -> 01:32 PM) To actually be serious, I think that Dunn has left a bad taste in the mouth of Sox fans and wiping themselves clean from him would be best for both parties. If they brought him back at $2-3 mill on a 1 year deal to be one half of a RHP DH platoon, I wouldn't complain, but I don't know if Dunn wants that at this point in his career. Who cares what fans think?

QUOTE (beautox @ Apr 17, 2014 -> 01:31 PM) This lets just hope he continues to look like the Dunn of old and we don't have to send 7.5M with him at the deadline to receive a prospect. Sox need to target someone like Victor Martinez in the offseason for DH because unlike the rest of the crop he could occasionally be used as a 3rd catcher and 1B which would give us some more positional flexibility. Also have others have stated on the board past their "prime" vets should continue to be the "new market inefficiency". I wouldn't seek out anyone to be a full time DH, especially an injury prone, fat, old guy like Martinez.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Apr 18, 2014 -> 12:29 PM) And all we ought to take from this is that the jump from AA to the big leagues is large and we should have people do that jump with caution. Circumstances may cause you to do so, but it's a move likely to be met with some struggles and some risk of legitimately screwing a guy up No. We probably shouldn't take anything from a player struggling for 2 weeks on any level.

Kenny trollin'.

While we're on the subject, Keppinger is a much bigger problem. They can't carry him and Konerko.

QUOTE (NorthSideSox72 @ Apr 15, 2014 -> 02:12 PM) It is a reactionary move. Also, who said anything about giving up on him too early? That has nothing to do with the discussion. It isn't a development thing with Beckham, or very little of that. Anything is possible, but I find it hard to believe a guy with only 71 MLB PA's coming into this year, just 32 games at AAA and less than a season at AA is going to be hurt by a couple months of AAA time. This is a development year for him either way, and he's going to spend some MLB time either way. Giving up on him "too early" was a direct quote from one of your posts on this very page.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Apr 15, 2014 -> 01:56 PM) Jose Bautista should have just hung it up. Oh my, a roided up outlier. That proves it.

I just can't believe that rational fans are even suggesting that it's giving up on Beckham "too early." The book has been written. He's a bust. 27 year olds with 2500 MLB AB's don't just suddenly figure it out. Trade him for some A level pitcher that throws 95 and can't hit the broadside of a barn. Play Semien everyday and let's move on with the rebuild. This isn't a reactionary move.

A lot of the K's I've seen from Semien have been the result of him being out guessed during tough situational AB's. That's pretty common for a kid his age. It's not something I'd worry about.

QUOTE (NorthSideSox72 @ Apr 15, 2014 -> 01:10 PM) I get the doubts about how much trade value Beckham would have, and one could debate that. But the idea that a healthy Beckham with a good (or even just decent) May and June doesn't have value is nothing more than people's emotions getting the better of them. If Jeff Keppinger, who is a marginally better hitter but worse fielder at 2B (and likely at 3B, though Gordon hasn't played there in a while), can get the contract he did, then Beckham clearly has some trade value. And a couple so-so prospects is better than nothing. Keppinger was coming off a season where he hit .325 with a 126 OPS+ and got a marginal deal that the Sox surely regret. What can Beckham do in 2 months to have any trade value whatsoever? Seriously. GM's aren't that dumb. Don't mess with Semien. Give him the job and play him everyday. He's ready.

Beckham "upping his trade value" is such a ridiculous notion.

QUOTE (danman31 @ Apr 14, 2014 -> 08:27 PM) I think Pence just wasn't very good at The Show. He whooped ass in Injustice. The more refined gamer doesn't play jock games.

QUOTE (Jake @ Apr 14, 2014 -> 08:26 PM) Conor fits approximately 1000x better if he can just learn to play 2B and/or corner OF. LH Keppinger, basically Next year he can play 3rd, 1st and DH. They can use the DH to put together the best line up instead of having it as a position.

QUOTE (fathom @ Apr 14, 2014 -> 06:14 PM) Is this the thread where I state that Gillaspie is a better fit as the 3rd baseman of the Sox for the next 5 years than Davidson is? Gillaspie isn't great, but he provides some solid offense as a lefty hitter in a lineup stacked with righties in the middle of the order. I haven't seen enough of Davidson, but I like Conor.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Apr 14, 2014 -> 04:57 PM) Even when it is included, they still extremely close, as I clearly stated in the post. How about another set of numbers to drive home the point? Jeff Keppinger career WAR 1.1. Gordan Beckham 5.6. Over the last five seasons Keppinger is 3.4, compared to Gordon's 5.6. In the last four years Kepp is 0.6, while Beckham is 3.5. Those numbers include Keppingers career season, and leave out Beckhams best season. In other words, you are letting your emotions get the best of you here. My emotions? I'm not the one defending Beckham. Emotion would be the only reason. There isn't a person outside of a handful of people in Chicago that would ever think he had any value.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Apr 14, 2014 -> 04:40 PM) Their career OPS are .020 apart , and Beckham makes up for that with a clear advantage over Keppinger defensively. Throw out Keppinger's outlier season of 2012, and they are pretty much identical in OPS. Add to that Kepp has never played 140 games in one season. You're going to throw out Keppinger outlier season, but keep Beckham's? What the hell is happening to logic? Keppinger was also coming off a very good season. Beckham's not going to come close to Keppinger's 2012. None of this even matters. Beckham has no value. Semien is a better ball player right now. Semien is younger, cheaper and part of the future. Play the kid. Beckham had more than enough chances.