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Oh boy, the Carroll / Nieto battery might make for a very long night. Nieto isn't very good at framing or blocking atm. damn that was a nice sinker.

Going from Sale to Carroll is like going from DI to DIII.

The future of Scott Carroll is in baseball, just not on a 25 man roster.

QUOTE (TRU @ Jul 22, 2014 -> 03:27 PM) Yes, Im sure there are plenty of people who never played sports and arm chair GM safely from their computer. I would not be one of those people. Im well aware of how demanding baseball is, and its not very much. Yes, have you ever played baseball and football at the same time during the summer in Texas? Probably not. You have now idea what you're talking about. I played college baseball, granted at a very low level, and with 4 games a week plus practicing every day you sure as s*** get fatigued. Your hammy gets tight, your shoulder is pinched, that huge strawberry on your thigh keep getting banged up every time you slide, your fingers are all bruised... Trust me, at the end of the season your body is tired and ready for a break. I'm not saying it's like the NBA or NFL, but after 5+ months of 162 games, playing every day, that's fatiguing. Look at Adam Eaton's quotes, this is a guy in the pinnacle of fitness, a highly tuned athlete, granted a shorter one, and he said he's "legs felt like s***" at the end of April. Playing every day is fatiguing. And also, your body doesn't recovery as fast at 27-32 as when you're 16-25. That's just reality. My body, after workouts and activity (I'm 31) takes almost twice as long to recover as when I was 25 or 18.

QUOTE (scs787 @ Jul 22, 2014 -> 03:10 PM) I really think they could realistic get Shields while also keeping Danks. Sale-Shields-Q-Noesi-Danks.....Let Rodon chill in the minors for a bit then trade Noesi/DAnks.....Longer they keep Danks the more baluable he becomes, assuming he's still throwing QS over 50% of the time. Hector Noesi is a better pitcher than post surgery John Danks. He's also magnitudes of order cheaper. If you trade one of them, you try and dump Danks to an (apparently) desperate Yankees Team. I can see Gordon + Danks to NYY for cash and a couple C prospects. Anyone expecting more needs to reset their expectations, these are 1 WAR types we are trading.

QUOTE (TRU @ Jul 22, 2014 -> 12:45 PM) People really think Abreu is only going to hit 9 or 10 more HRs the rest of the way It wouldn't surprise me. I think he finishes with around 40, maybe 42,43, but I expect his average to continue to rise, maybe even getting up to 310 by the end of the year. I will totally trade some slugging for a higher OBP. I think Jose finishes 300/355/590. A helluva year and a wRC+ of around 160 from that line and around 5 fWAR. Not bad, not bad at all, a true star player.

Haven't seen much Eaton hype, even though he's now up to a 284/355/384 line and credited with 1.4 fWAR. Basically he's on pace for a 2 or 2.5 fWAR season. He seems as healthy as he has been since spring so I'm going to go ahead and predict he finishes 290/360/380 and plays in the remaining 45 or so games to finish the year with 125 games played, which isn't quite ideal but would be encouraging for a player that is young and had injury problems. Of course I now just jinxed him and he'll go on the DL tmr with a srained hammy. What a steal it was getting him from ARI, he is going to be making league min for a few more years and he'll probably produce around 8-12 WAR during that time.

eaton quietly up to a .355 OBP, the little bugger has some talent.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jul 21, 2014 -> 08:21 PM) Watch the game. Saw the play, maybe try and pull the ball for once instead of going up the middle when the hit and run is on. I blame Robin more though, never really like the hit and run at the MLB level.

f***ing Gordon

good relay I thought for sure Alexei was gonna bobble it and miss him.

QUOTE (1dog @ Jul 21, 2014 -> 09:03 PM) Anything from Hawk about Wegner's handling of Sale's beanball against Valencia? He didn't react like this at least. I am stuck with the Royals broadcast. He just said that Sale knew what he had to do and that he's not afraid to send a message. Pretty tame by Hawk standards.

QUOTE (lostfan @ Jul 21, 2014 -> 08:53 PM) I remember all the butt hurt from the Sox trading Young instead of Anderson, but Young is a nothing Yea, Young was "at worst" a 250/340/480 type that would patrol CF for the next decade. He started well with ARI but his career has totally fizzled out, nothing more than a 4th OF at this point.

Man, Hawk can't even admit that Gordo has scuffled pretty much his entire career.

Good job Sale, f*** these guys.

f***ing Viciedo has a 2-0 count, he should be zoning in on middle in, instead he roles over on a pitcher' pitch a half foot outside. Trade this guy while he has any value please.

he would struck out on that last month.

ugh, took it right there.

QUOTE (Jerksticks @ Jul 21, 2014 -> 07:24 PM) I would be interested in clicking on a new Rodon thread at the top of PaleHose if it was there. Maybe the first post could continually update and add a line everytime he pitches, like a BR game log page, and then the discussion would be ongoing. I only mention this because he's a special prospect and I feel like some people probably don't enter many minor league game thread discussions. He's gonna be fun to keep tabs on even for those here who have little interest in our minors. For me, his starts are going to be must follow stuff and I totally agree with this. Wading through the game logs on Future Sox is fun, but when you have a top 10 in all of MLB shiny new prospect it behooves us to treat him a little differently and with more flair. It's been a long, long time since we had a prospect with this much hype in the system. Even Sale was kinda a novelty that just came out of nowhere, Rodon has been hyped for the last two years and he's now a Sox. edit: Last one I could think of was Chris Young, holy s*** he never panned out.

Didn't he have an elbow problem that lead to his decline?

QUOTE (Soxfest @ Jul 20, 2014 -> 02:15 PM) Hahn would use the 16 mil in other areas. Danks is a shell of himself anymore. Yea, there is a decent chance he's out of baseball after this contract. He has neither command nor velocity, not a good combo.

what an awful umping crew this is.

Hawk wants a threesome with Ozzie and Beckham, come on man, this is the 2014 Sox.

Good game although should have been a more comfortable win. Hector had good stuff and luckily the Astros didn't make him pay that 3rd time around quite enough. 13 hits but only scored 4 runs, that's not good. Watching Altuve verse Beckham... If the Sox had signed Robbie Cano they might have been wild card contenders. This team seemingly isn't half bad but 2B and SP need major upgrades. Beckam is now hitting 232/284/370. Sox will be lucky to get anything for Gordon, maybe an intriguing A ball pitcher at best. On the SP front, good news is that even if Rodon is middle case, solid #2 or 3 starter, the Sox have a really good top of the rotation locked down for 5+ years (knock on wood) and finding a 4th and 5th shouldn't be too difficult given their past success. If Rodon is an ace, that gives some room for Sale or Q to fall off a bit, or all 3 of them dominate best case and the Sox can contend for years to come mostly based on them alone. Obviously the team needs to inject more talent both at the MLB and MilB levels, but getting Rodon was a huge coup and enough of Hahn's moves are paying off to where the team is now baseline mediocre instead of awful, with quite a bit of payroll flexibility in the years to come.

good win. De Aza is impressing hopefully he nets a good SP prospect if he goes. Q had some hard luck on that ball Viciedo played into a double.