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my thought is: why not both? Find a manager that can make the right tactical calls and motivate the boys.

I think some of you guys have forgotten what winning clubs are like. If they win 95 games every single move he makes in the playoffs will be scrutinized more than ANY move he's made over the last two years. He has Moncada bunt in the playoffs and Twitter and Sox radio in Chicago will burn down, as it should.

Trust me, if the Sox are good this year Ricky will be the proverbial ant under the magnifying class on game day. He's been given a free pass for two years. That time is over. His decisions are about to be under actual scrutiny. You could shrug off every bunt last year with "well it's a tank year anyways". Not so anymore. He gives away outs, runs and games with bunting and the Chicago media and fans need to hold his feet to the fire.

why would you give ricky the benefit of the doubt tho? This is a guy that batted Reed 4th FFS.

He's a little sensitive but I think there's a fair question if what they are doing with Kopech (to claw back the lost year) is shadier than simply delaying the clock start (which EVERYBODY does EVERY time without an extension in place), but simply waiting the two weeks to grab an extra year isn't a service time "game" anymore it's simply BAU. Change the rules. Don't player hate, player hate the game.

Bruh nobody was even arguing that they wouldn't keep him down for the extra year. The "getting cute" was perhaps related to waiting the additional time for super 2. Nobody is really even arguing with you you're tilting at windmills. Mostly everyone is in agreement here.

That's true but the argument, if there is one, that there's "no room" for him even if he's banging down the door isn't true. They might hold him down, but it won't be because Jose is playing 150 games at 1st and putting up 5 WAR. Personally I don't think they will play any service time games with him beyond the now bog standard extra year by holding him out a few weeks in April. Unless he completely falls on his face he'll be up whenever the 172 day deadline passes in '21.

He surely thinks so. Their roster stinks he's got a shot but just seems odd to me that if he really had a chance at a guaranteed 1.5 million, the MLB lifestyle (with a wife and young kids coming to expect it) he'd turn that down for a 50/50 chance at being a starter. But hell I myself said that if he somehow gets 500 or so PA this year and can hit 270/330/400 he might get a multi year deal. That's incredibly unlikely but this is almost surely his LAST chance to prove any sort of value other than utility guy. All that said he could go to Japan and play another ten years if he really wanted and probably make 7-12 million. He'll be fine, as will his family. He's already banked about 8 million before taxes.

I have a hard time believing he passed up a legit 26 man roster spot in order to try and break camp with the Giants as their starter. Seems a pretty damn big risk for a guy that could have secured a MLB lifestyle for at least another year and socked away another million or so for his future and family. Wish him well but he's a marginal MLB player as anything but a utility guy on a non contender. He's just a guy. With no 40 man spots open? Nah.

Jose isn't going to play more than 80 games at 1st in 2021. The ABs will be there for a 1B, whether that's EE or Collins or Vaughn remains to be seen.

hopefully, but this is the Sox and JR. If he can save 5 million on Madrigal in 2024 he will try. Believe the extra year will only require about three weeks in Charlotte so sometime around April 20th had be up if they don't care about Super 2.

On the radio last year during the playoffs I felt for sure they were banging. That was the only explanation for how giggly she was at everything he said. She's a mediocre analyst plenty of mediocre men analysts as well so that's progress I guess.

I just hope Kopech listens to his body a bit more and is honest with the training staff. Don't need any tough guy BS costing him any more time.

There's zero percent chance even if he hits 500/600/700. He'll be up whenever the projected Super 2 deadline passes, and not a second before.

It's not too bad imo. He's only going to miss about 7 starts. He wasn't ever going to pitch more than 140 innings anyways so might as well just keep him down in ST an extra couple weeks, let him slowly ramp up on side games then send him to Charlotte in late April and let him make 4-6 starts down there and then he's up with the big club.

it would have been in the ballpark. just like I'm "in the ballpark" standing at the top of the left field upper deck at Guaranteed Rate.

If nothing else get rid of super 2 and modernize and reform the arb process.

The Mariners are so stupid. They could have traded him for a Eaton like ransom last offseason but they held onto him in the stupid ass "re tooling" (don't call it a rebuild) so Servais and Dipoto could save face. Now they will be lucky to get 200 PA and a Rutherford type for him in 2020. The Mariners are going to be really bad for a long time. I'd say there's only one team in the AL (Tigers) with a bleaker short and mid term future. Maybe Baltimore or KC are in that pool as well. They have no MLB cornerstones, a middling farm (Kelenic is nice but after that not much star power and their LA ops are even worse than the Sox'), and an ownership that seems content to let the current GM, who he hired to make the playoffs (and didn't) handle the rebuild, er, "re tool".

That's way too rich for him the Sox got 90% of Nick for 1/6 the cost in EE.

God I hope the new CBA does away with the service time games. It's so bad for the fans and young players. Kopech knows the drill but man it's gotta be frustrating.

Player options are poison pills imo. Owners were pushing for them a few years ago as a way to drive down AAV (while banking on continuing strong yearly MLB revenue growth) but I don't think smart clubs will hand them out so easily from here on out. As I've said repeatedly here and elsewhere it leaves the club on the hook for all the downside projection on the contract and very little of the surplus.

Goose island sucks sorry Chicago folks. Their ipa that ships to Seattle is one of the worst beers macro or micro I have ever had. Maybe the original brewery and on tap stuff is good but oof. founders is great but fuck that racist ass company and their lawyers. im in San Diego just had Russian river and modern times now that is great fucking beer!

There's no way Stone will go on the record with a win prediction. No fucking way. He has nothing to gain and a lot to lose.

Dude if Nick wants to come here on 1/15, and I've sorta come around on the Mazara move -- YOU WELCOME IT WITH OPEN ARMS. Anybody good at the deadline will cost a king's ransom in prospects, not just cash. Signing Nick gives the Sox about 2 more wins over Mazara on paper. Probably would improve playoff odds from about 40% to 50% preseason. It's a no brainer, a one year deal? Come on. As noted yesterday even 2/42 makes a lot of sense. Anything longer does not.

Dude spring training is going to be absolutely lit this year. Look at all the young exciting players you're going to be able to see up close and personal: Eloy, Yoan, Madrigal, Vaughn, Robert, Kopech, Cease, Rutherford, Basabe and so on. Also see they invited Delmonica and Medeiros. Be interesting to see if either of those guys has shown any improvement. Be nice to keep building depth.