chitownsportsfan

well then why didn't Grandal sign for more given they aren't really in the same time zone with regards to impact. as uh, ya know, he signed weeks ago now so presumably in your hypothetical market he also required much more to sign early...

Why? Grandal is about 33% better than Ozuna and plays a premium position. There's no comparison between the two one is a solid regular the other is a borderline superstar depending on how you value framing.

We've been over this. He's mediocre. Think recent Avi not Palka. And if Luis Robert really does cover the 25% of the earth not covered by water his defensive importance will be mitigated.

If the 5th year is the sticking point I can see that being an issue. I'd rather go higher AAV and 3/4. How about 3/60 with some sort of mutual option?

He's projected for 3.1 fWAR in 148 games. He's not a star, but he's basically what Avi was supposed to be and unlike Avi he doesn't get hurt. I'm a little worried as everyone about the Sox' ability to scout a guy coming from the NL but he's a solid player with a good 3-4 years left of productive years as a starter. Fills a massive hole on the MLB roster. I'd welcome it personally. The seats at the FA table are starting to get filled, Sox need to keep signing guys before all the better spots are gone.

quizás ellos no pueden entender tweets en Español, no?

there but for the grace of god we all go. million dollar arm and who knows how many of us would have ended up in similar spots.

Yea and if I win the lottery this month it will be a good year. Haven't won it yet but this is the year!

Hahn brought some really tasty corn salad to JR's Holiday party last weekend. He's in line for a pay raise.

Obviously the Sox have inside info that Carlos Rodon is primed for a 5 WAR season. Rotation help? They have "too much pitching" in the legendary words of one poster here. No need to sign anybody good in FA. Just sign Nova and Walker and call it good!

While I agree that we haven't seen the improved scouting that will be necessary for sustained winning I don't think this trade and the subsequent one the Mariners made today are an example of it. Omar only had about 350PA of good production at the dish with horrible defensive metrics (framing of course) when he was traded by the Sox. He then put up a similar slash line (119wRC+) this time in nearly 500PA. So he's now had a wRC+ of 120 over his last 850 PA. Framing still sucks but his bat is no longer much of a question and his value has ticked up a bit. And still he was only able to net a C prospect and the 71st pick, which is about equal to a C+ prospect or maybe at best B-. Like a Basabe type. Plenty of things to b**** about with Hahn but the Omar trade isn't one of them imo.

For the sake of argument if they knew he wanted say 10% more to play in Chicago and knew they wouldn't beat an offer by 10% they sure did waste a lot of time that could have been spent on more willing targets. It's a failure, not sure how to spin it otherwise. There's no participation trophy in FA offers.

if it's not, then wheeler should fire his agent or his agent should fire him.

It's very obvious Wheeler gave the Sox a number to beat for the "inconvenience" of moving to Chicago and the Sox couldn't beat it. OK, maybe it's a smart decision. Maybe the extra 2 million AAV (or whatever he wanted) wasn't worth it. But they just lit money on fire with Abreu so penny smart pound foolish and why would anybody give them the benefit of the doubt here?

by definition they didn't have the best offer because he didn't sign with them. It's like 99% of the way pregnant. "meeting the offer" is meaningless imo.

Yea but the offseason has started...it's a fluid situation.

Money talks. He had a figure to leave and the Sox and others didn't meet it. This is post ad hoc rationalizing it happens quite frequently with the bridesmade teams. It wasn't his wife or reluctance to leave the east coast it was Chicago's offer wasn't good enough.

The Sox don't seem to realize that in FA, your "worth" is what someone will pay you.

Hey it was a "competitive offer"!

Have you seen MLB revenue projections? The golden goose is busy laying eggs.

chickenshit franchise.

it's like 55 and humid and damp here. Feels like late February. Too bad it's only the start of December. Long winter of starting out the window ahead.

Ah that makes sense then. Thanks, haven't been following him too closely obviously.

I think two years 30 million made a lot of sense for Chicago but oh well.

wut. 1 year deal? Absolutely shocked nobody would give him 2, including the Sox. Jesus.