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If you think Eloy is bad out there, wait until you see Domingo. Unfortunately he's a DH.

Similar athletic profile but Rios never developed much power, topping out around 20 HR a year. You'd hope in his prime from 25-30 Moncada is closer to 30 than 20 a year.

While I'm as frustrated with the kid as anybody he's still young enough to where you keep trotting him out and hope something clicks or he slowly can improve to bad 4th decent 5th starter territory for next year and so on after. I don't think anybody has to do much of a deep dive into his numbers to find why he struggles just watching it's clear he has zero command of any pitch. I'm not even talking about control where sometimes a guy can command a pitch but can't control his entire arsenal: he cannot command a single one of his pitches on any given night, most nights in fact. What do you even do with a guy like that? He's not going to magically find it out of the pen, in fact it might be more amplified given the higher leverage and possibility of coming in out of the stretch more often than not. Gotta keep trying him as a starter for now and hope for better. One thing I'd like to see is a SHORT LEASH. There's no reason to burn through so many pitches with him. If he's made it 5 innings through 90 pitches with 3 runs more often than not that should be it for him. It seems the Sox have an outdated philosophy when it comes to developing young starters. Not every guy is going to be able to give you 6-7 innings all the time or even 5. In today's game, carrying 13 relievers, you can afford to have a guys like that, especially when you're trying to build them up confidence wise. I don't think Lopez is developing good habits being left out to dry early in his career.

Yea

What a strange quote from renteria. He threw Tim under the bus and used "I..." Instead of we.

game threads are a wild emotional ride, that's the beauty.

Not much of a pitching guy but isn't a cutter just a more extreme 2 seamer with a bit of a wider grip? That's by far his best pitch has great tailing movement to lefties and bores in on righties.

Moncada is our best player.

I think Fangraphs classifies it as a "cutter" and according to their data he's using it 22.3% of the time this year averaging 91.3 mph. His 4 seamer is coming in at 94.3 on average, which is pretty good for him as well.

it's a game thread sir.

His best pitch when he's been rolling has been his 2 seamer and then following that up with a decent change and breaking ball. I would hope he ditches the sinker. Pitching to contact is a fool's errand. edit: 2 seamer, yikes. More coffee.

Tim is a good player but many of us want him to be great and in order to be great he's gotta get a better handle on how to approach ABs like that.

lol covey is trending on Fangraphs.

yea he's a total class act but he's been in decline going on three years now.

When are folks going to realize he's a 2 WAR 1B at this point? If that. He's down to a 107 wRC+ and he's once again going to be -15 runs negative as a defender. I'm so fucking sick of the hero worship for this guy.

with this rotation that will be the cycle.

you can't pitch a shutout unless you do that.

Because he can't bat 9 times? -- Rick "'cause there are no 4s" Walker"

Jeeze early ass start. Other than Moncada yesterday's game really left a sour smell in the air so let's try and win today!

almost seems like a PR move.

If they can't find a closer and a decent DH they don't deserve to win anything anyways. Seriously Jose and Colome should EASILY be replaced when money is being spent again. Assuming it ever is.

50% of the anger is the manager man. doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results with lopez is insanity. he had very little again tonight and was walking a fine line. At a certain point you can't leave him out there to get guillotined, rebuild year or not. Rick has to be accountable to his team and there's no shame in trying to build off a decent 5/1/3 performance on the road with a young scuffling starter.

lol I've never seen that. That guy had me cracking up. Classic Socal baseball field he was on too.

Honestly looking and listening to Cooper it's amazing he's only in his mid 60s. Health wise he appears almost done. He is 63. If you didn't know that you'd assume 70+ easy. I know some pretty fit and active 60s, Cooper ain't it.

The Mariners have given up double digits like 10 times this year already. At least we aren't them. BUT MAN OUR PITCHING SUCKS (not you Gio, I see you).