Balta1701

Mark's getting the ball up.

QUOTE (fathom @ May 7, 2010 -> 09:43 PM) Beckham I think if Jason Heyward read this post, he'd either interpret it as a threat or an insult.

QUOTE (fathom @ May 7, 2010 -> 09:42 PM) The Atlanta Braves are the Chicago White Sox. Where's our Heyward?

Please tell me the bullpen is at least ready Ozzie...

QUOTE (Thunderbolt @ May 7, 2010 -> 09:37 PM) You put good players around struggling young ones, you might get better results then with our current makeup. But you're forgetting 1 thing...you want to put Gonzalez into the lineup...you have to bench one of those struggling ones.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ May 7, 2010 -> 09:36 PM) Konerko's money comes off this year. We also aren't too far from the end of Jenks as well. Buehrle comes off of the books in another year. 1. Buehrle isn't leaving. If Buehrle's leaving, then the team is going to have a huge hole to fill. 2. Konerko's contract is coming off, but we don't have an obvious 1b replacement next year. 3. Even if we keep Konerko, we're going to be searching the scrap heap for a DH again next year.

QUOTE (Thunderbolt @ May 7, 2010 -> 09:35 PM) I just don’t see how having one of the best players in all of baseball hurts a team. Especially, when our entire core is young and we’re playing in a mediocre division. Our entire young core is either playing terrible right now or is going to get very expensive in the next 2 years (D1).

Nicely turned by Omar.

QUOTE (Thunderbolt @ May 7, 2010 -> 09:30 PM) Well, that's a shame. It's perfectly logical to think that you get Adrian Gonzalez in a White Sox uniform that people are going to start showing up to games. But even if that does happen...unless everyone else starts hitting, it's not going to be enough to offset the additional $25 mil a season it will take to sign him. You need to increase revenues by $25 million beyond where we've been the last 3-4 years.

QUOTE (Thunderbolt @ May 7, 2010 -> 09:29 PM) You don't think that just getting him would have any impact on the amount of people coming to Sox games? We're a large mark team with an owner with deep pockets. You give Jerry a reason to believe that the team will improve, he'll spend the cash. Frankly, no. I think you're 100% wrong.

Fathom, you were saying something about Rios's swing?

QUOTE (Thunderbolt @ May 7, 2010 -> 09:26 PM) Yes, because i think if we brought him in, it would be under the pretense that we could secure him for a few years. IF that's the case, we'll be competing for the divison for years to come. If this team traded the farm for Gonzalez and signed him...They'd be throwing in the white flag financially for the next 2-3 years.

QUOTE (fathom @ May 7, 2010 -> 09:25 PM) Instead of one bat, I'd rather spend money on 3-4 additions in the next few offseasons. Well, considering we seem to need a new RF, 2b, and SS, because ours have forgotten what a "bat" is...

Carlos Lee was once that thin?!

QUOTE (Thunderbolt @ May 7, 2010 -> 09:22 PM) A-Gone is different. You really think, right now, if we added Gonzalez tomorrow to this lineup and only had to give up minor leaguers, that we'd be in position to compete for the division?

QUOTE (fathom @ May 7, 2010 -> 09:22 PM) Balta and I are in agreement that we shouldn't pursue Berkman unless we get within a few games and everyone starts playing better. I should also add that trading Thompson right now seems like a potentially huge mistake, but I wouldn't lose the division on it if he was the centerpiece of a trade.

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ May 7, 2010 -> 09:21 PM) So basically we won't trade any of our top six prospects, haha, LOGICALLY. Hudson, Flowers, Danks, Viciedo (KW's ego is on the line too much with that move), Mitchell and Trayce Thompson. So who's #7-10 that we would part with and would get us a Lance Berman? HMMMMM... Did you read the post at all? If we're mired in 4th place in the division, you think Lance Berkman is making that big of a difference?

QUOTE (fathom @ May 7, 2010 -> 09:20 PM) But with the absolute lack of another minor league pitcher that is projecteable as a future Sox starter, Hudson's value is extremely high. I'd agree if we didn't already have 4 guys in our starting rotation at least through the end of 2011.

QUOTE (fathom @ May 7, 2010 -> 09:18 PM) I think Flowers stock isn't high enough right now where you trade him, as he's more valuable to the Sox likely. Same goes for Hudson as well. Danks 2 would be first guy I trade if not for his brother. Hudson had 1 bad outing this year. I think, especially as the year goes on, his value is just going to keep going up and up.

QUOTE (Thunderbolt @ May 7, 2010 -> 09:13 PM) I think he's a guy who is going to have to face major league pitching before we get a good read of him. That K-rate will either damn him, or force him to make adjustments. He's got to get things ironed out in the minors. He's not going to get to the bigs and figure things out there.

QUOTE (fathom @ May 7, 2010 -> 09:13 PM) Question for you, as you usually have a different take on most things than I do: Which prospects on the Sox would you trade, and who would you keep (of the main names) Depends...am I in a position where the big league team has clawed back into it and is 1 player short or not? If I'm not within a couple games...I wouldn't trade any of like my top 8. If I think I can make a run at the division, I hold onto D2, because of D1, and Flowers unless the return is incredible, because I don't think forcing myself to bid on AJ is a smart move.

QUOTE (TitoMB @ May 7, 2010 -> 09:12 PM) Woot, 2-2! LOL, nice edit.

HA.

Sonofab****

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ May 7, 2010 -> 09:09 PM) 10 doubles on the season for JD2. But only a .765 OPS. Similar strikeout rate to last year.