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QUOTE(fathom @ Jun 7, 2007 -> 08:56 AM) No...it would be great if someone from our minors actually overachieved based on their expectations. The last person to do that has to be Buehrle. I've just always thought of Gio as more of a #4 or 5 guys. There's nothing about his numbers, while repeating AA in a pitcher's park, that makes me think he's going to be a standout starter. If Danks can be a 2/3 and Gio can be a 4/5 though, we have the makings of a competitive staff. I'll add in that I totally disagree here. I think that either Gio is a top-of-the-rotation guy or he's a complete bust. His numbers in the minors and the stuff he's throwing up there seem so good that it's going to be really hard for him to wind up a #4-5 guy. If he can manage to stay healthy, he's a top of the rotation guy. If he can not manage to stay healthy, then he's Prior/Wood. But either way, he has the stuff of a top guy, so I just don't see how he can be a bottom of the rotation guy. The only way I see that happening is if he blows out something and has surgery that really hurts his performance.

Well, with Pettitte and Clemens on the Yankees, it's moderately close to that Astros team the Sox crushed in 05, right?

Let me just add... Joe Crede was an idiot for not having the surgery last offseason. Was it a risk for him? Yes. But either way, he'd still have his contract for $5 mil for this season even if things went poorly. He should have rehabbed it the entire offseason, and hopefully come out some time early this season ready to play. If healthy, he might have still had a chance to put up good numbers and actually make himself attractive as a FA or as trade-bait. Joe Crede will be even more of an idiot if he does not have the surgery now. If he has the surgery now, he still at least can come back next season and hopefully play 1 season completely healthy, and thus give himself a chance at that FA contract. This screws over the White Sox unless he comes out on fire early next season, because the Sox won't be able to trade him for anything this offseason because he's coming off back surgery, but at least it gives him a shot of salvaging his career. And Joe Crede is an even bigger idiot if he ever takes the advice of Scott Boras's folk about health issues again. QUOTE(29thandPoplar @ Jun 7, 2007 -> 08:58 AM) Excellent point. The answer to your question is prob. "not many". If any. Given the #'s Joe put up last season with a back that had already flared up in 05, there were probably more than a few teams that would take a flyer on him. But unfortunately, it would probably have depressed his value a lot. Hell, for all we know Crede's back could have been the only thing standing between the Crede/Garcia for Figgins/Santana swap that was rumored.

Whoa, Interleague play again? Hiya Carlos!

Snicker. More from ABC News, including the whole document.

QUOTE(fathom @ Jun 6, 2007 -> 07:18 PM) It's getting to the point where I'm way too comfortable with us losing. I don't even think my blood pressure is high right now. You know, that's a sad point. This is so much less frustrating than that 7 game skid in August-Sept of 05...I miss those days.

QUOTE(minorsfan @ Jun 6, 2007 -> 07:15 PM) Yeah cause he hit a bomb to the second baseman!!!! I'll still take Mr. Thome coming up as the tying run over almost any other setup you could give me.

Boone Logan has the lowest ERA of any pitcher on our roster who has pitched in the big leagues this season other than Bobby Jenks.

And bring on the Legend...

QUOTE(SoxFan562004 @ Jun 6, 2007 -> 07:04 PM) Did Wang really have a 4.12 ERA coming into this game? Currently down to 3.94. 3.92

STOP MAKING OUTS ON THE BASEPATHS IN FRONT OF JIM THOME!

QUOTE(fathom @ Jun 6, 2007 -> 06:22 PM) - Ozzie's complaining about Latino players being targeted in the steroid investigation. I never knew Bonds and Giambi were latinos.

QUOTE(TheOcho @ Jun 6, 2007 -> 06:20 PM) Seeing JD "run" for that ball made me cry. You know, given the small size of our ballpark and the fact that there aren't any wierd nooks, crannies, or corners to deflect the ball, you'd think it'd be pretty hard for guys to actually get a triple in the Cell.

QUOTE(CWSOX45 @ Jun 6, 2007 -> 06:12 PM) That works. Now can we do that 3 more times? That took 2 outs. So basically you'd have to repeat it without a flaw in 3 more innings.

Sweet, we even avoid the shutout.

So, I don't exactly know where to put this, but it MUST be posted somewhere on this Website. Stephen Colbert's "Better Know a District" segment takes on Illinois's fightin' 9th district...on the NOrth Shore of Chicago...and including Wrigley Field.

QUOTE(RockRaines @ Jun 6, 2007 -> 01:24 PM) Durant is still awesome, but I find that hard to believe as well. There arent many lower tier college athletes that cant bench 185 at least once. In fact I bet most high school athletes could as well. Well, on top of that...how thin was this guy? I mean, seriously, at least to my eyes, he looked like a freaking twig all year. He's 19 bloody years old and in good athletic shape...he probably can't bench 185 because his body just hasn't developed enough yet.

QUOTE(briguy27 @ Jun 6, 2007 -> 02:03 PM) why do u say that? That is just a very well-ground lineup.

QUOTE(Capn12 @ Jun 6, 2007 -> 01:21 PM) Odd, I'm not sure I've seen one person on SoxTalk say "I hope Prancer does awful, I hate that b****!!" as it was said on page one. Just because alot, ALOT of us don't like him being brought back for 2007, sure as hell doesn't mean we're going to root against him. There are quite a few posters on SoxTalk that seem to confuse agitation and frustration with a player as dislike for the teams wellbeing. I don't get it. You know what would kick some major arse? Podsednik coming back and performing well enough to give himself some trade value.

QUOTE(South Side Fireworks Man @ Jun 6, 2007 -> 02:11 PM) The last time we saw a Crede who wasn't hampered by his back, he was raking the ball.

QUOTE(jackie hayes @ Jun 6, 2007 -> 11:07 AM) Maybe because he thought he could play through it? A guy doesn't try to play through pain, he's a pussy, he's JD Drew. A guy tries to play through pain, he's selfish and hurting the organization. Once you're injured you're f***ed either way, I guess. Of course...he could have just listened to the team and had the surgery.

Josh...give them a reason to keep you. That is all.

QUOTE(southsider2k5 @ Jun 6, 2007 -> 09:50 AM) The Sox were 24-6 last year when Pods stole a base in a game. I don't know what it means, but we need more stats like that this year. I wonder what our numbers were when he was caught stealing in a game.

QUOTE(29thandPoplar @ Jun 6, 2007 -> 10:13 AM) Crede and his camp thought he could play and play well without the surgery. Now my guess is he gets the surgery after they nurse him along the next 3-4 months with a stint or two on the DL which gives Fields a taste. Crede then gets this done after the season, hopefully for his sake proves he can play in 2008, guess what, just in time to be a FA for '09. And either way, it's the White Sox that get screwed.

QUOTE(juddling @ Jun 6, 2007 -> 09:33 AM) Actually...i'll refer to him as Zephrim Cochran....Damn you, you geeky Star Trek memories Oh come on dude, you at least have to be able to spell Zefram Cochrane's name correctly. Interestingly, that's not the only Star Trek role that Cromwell has had. He played Prime Minister Nayrok of the planet Angosia in the episode of the Next Generation "The Hunted", a the leader of a Karemma delegation in DS9's "Starship down", and I think something else thrown in there.