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QUOTE(Balta1701 @ Jun 20, 2005 -> 11:07 AM) Even if there's some good-natured fun already established, I personally can't see the point of taunting one of the decent guys on the Cubs roster for giving up a slam to Jeter. There are plenty of other Cubs who are far more deserving than Borowski. Wood, Patterson, Baker, Maddux immediately come to mind. And if they lived in my building, I'd tease them too. Maybe I'll just stick to the fact that the Sox have the best record in baseball and the Cubs, uh, dont.
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QUOTE(kyyle23 @ Jun 20, 2005 -> 11:01 AM) Why the JoeBo hate? I always had a sort of respect for him, he always got by on decent but not great stuff. Its not my style to rip on a journeyman pitcher who was made out to be something that he isnt by the Cub fan-dumb. I dont hate him at all, he's actually a good guy. Like I said, it's good natured teasing.
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QUOTE(YASNY @ Jun 20, 2005 -> 11:01 AM) Show some class and don't say anything. It's good natured. He gives me s*** about the Sox when they're not doing well. His son plays with my dog.
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Joe Borowski lives in my building and I've gotta think of something snappy to say to him about Jeter hitting his first career grand slam off him in New York. Any suggestions?
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QUOTE(Buehrle>Wood @ Jun 17, 2005 -> 09:12 PM) We have talked about him a couple times on here. Where would we put him though? Our starting rotation is already set for next year and B-Mac is waiting in the wings. 1) Move one of the Cubans to the pen, preferably Contreras 2) Have you seen McCarthy's stats in the minors since he got sent back? He's getting crushed. Despite the gem he threw in Wrigley, he's not ready.
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QUOTE(innersanctum @ Jun 16, 2005 -> 06:09 AM) Does that mean we are going to have to get used to a new radio team or do you think the guys from ESPN will move with the team? I hope Farmer and Rooney make the move. I've always liked them.
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QUOTE(sec159row2 @ Jun 15, 2005 -> 06:56 AM) haven't had a chance to read to article yet but the sox attendence woes have made the front page of the WSJ :banghead I was gonna post this up, but I see that you beat me to it, so here's the article. White Sox Are Hot, So Why Are Fans In Chicago So Blasé? Filling U.S. Cellular Field IsHard in a Winning Year; Second Fiddle to Wrigley By ERIK AHLBERG Staff Reporter of THE WALL STREET JOURNAL CHICAGO -- The Chicago White Sox have the best record in baseball, and their best chance in years of ending an 88-year drought of World Series championships. But here in one of America's great sports towns, hardly anyone seems to care. The team has tried almost everything to lure fans, including half-price tickets on Mondays, $1 hot dogs, and roving bands of cheerleaders who give free tickets to anyone who happens to be wearing a White Sox hat or jersey. Still, the Sox are averaging only 23,000 fans a game -- a tad more than half the capacity of their South Side home, U.S. Cellular Field. When the Sox recently faced another first-place team, the Los Angeles Angels, only about 20,000 showed up, despite delightful weather and a 2-for-1 ticket special. "I've always said that the PR department should just hand out tickets to the upper deck -- they'd at least get the money for parking," Sox pitcher Mark Buehrle says. Despite his 7-1 won-loss record, the 6-foot-2-inch lefthander says he rarely gets recognized around town. Brothers Kevin and Don Smith were among only four groups of tailgaters in a half-empty parking lot outside the ballpark before a recent game. "I can call friends on the day of a game, cook some burgers, have a couple of beers and then sit in an excellent seat," said Kevin Smith, 42 years old, wearing a crumpled Sox cap while tending a grill sizzling with blackened chicken wings. "I love baseball, and I love the Sox. It kills me that they don't get the attention they deserve," said Bill Roach, 50, of St. Charles, Ill. As he spoke, he was exiting a Sox win over the Chicago Cubs at Wrigley Field on the city's north side -- and Wrigley, with a seating capacity of 39,538, was packed as usual. At the heart of the Sox's troubled wooing of Chicago lies a conundrum worthy of Yogi Berra: They haven't been good enough to win, and they haven't been bad enough to tap into baseball's romance with hapless losers. The White Sox won their last World Series in 1917. Even before the Boston Red Sox exorcised their 86-year curse last year, the White Sox had the American League's longest drought. In the National League, the Cubs haven't won a series since 1908. Sox outfielder "Shoeless" Joe Jackson and seven of his teammates were banned from baseball for allegedly taking payoffs to deliberately lose the 1919 World Series. The team didn't win another American League pennant until 1959. When they did, the late Mayor Richard J. Daley ordered the fire commissioner to sound the city's civil-defense siren system, sending thousands into the streets. "Sox fans thought, 'Geez, we've finally won the pennant and now the Russians are invading,' " says Don Smith, 56, one of the brothers at the recent Sox game. (The Sox lost the '59 Series to the Los Angeles Dodgers, 4 games to 2.) While most seasons the Sox bumped along in the middle of the pack, the Cubs endeared themselves to fans by staging some of the most dramatic collapses in baseball history. Folks here still talk about 1969, when the Cubs lost 18 of their last 26 games to lose the Eastern Division title to the New York Mets. Then, in 2003, the team was just five outs from the World Series when the Cubs came unglued after a fan's ill-timed grab at a foul ball. Cubs fans had such colorful stars as Ernie Banks and Sammy Sosa to entertain them, just as long-suffering Red Sox fans could revel in the larger-than-life exploits of Ted Williams and Roger Clemens. Sox stars Luis Aparicio, Luke Appling and Nellie Fox didn't inspire that same sort of devotion. Tony Zackavec, 31, a Sox fan from Joliet, Ill., says Sox supporters typically are hard-to-please, working-class Chicagoans. "Ninety-nine percent of White Sox fans are blue-collar," he says, and they refuse to shell out money for a mediocre product. But, as of yesterday afternoon, the Sox led the American League's Central Division by five games. They've built their 42-21 record on strong pitching, speedy base-running and late-inning comebacks. Mirroring the South Side's rough-and-tumble image, the team consists mostly of scrappy, low-priced, no-name players. Some blame attendance problems on owner Jerry Reinsdorf, who threatened to move the team to Florida in the 1980s and was a leading hard-liner in the 1994 baseball strike, which began when the Sox happened to be in first place in their division. Some fans say Tribune Co., which owns the Cubs and two of Chicago's biggest media outlets -- the Chicago Tribune and WGN-TV -- slights the Sox in its coverage. Mike North, a local sports-radio host, says the Sox get the most ink when there's a crime near their ballpark. Tribune sports editor Dan McGrath says, "We try to be as fair and balanced as we can." Many people fault Comiskey Park, which one local columnist has described as having the feel of West Berlin during the Cold War. The park, which replaced the old Comiskey in 1991 and was renamed U.S. Cellular Field in 2003, is bordered by a rust-stained concrete wall, train tracks and an interstate highway. Some of Chicago's toughest housing projects loom beyond the outfield fence. There are only a few bars within walking distance. Monte Nelson, a 42-year-old construction worker who lives just three blocks from the field, prefers bellying up to the bar at his favorite neighborhood tavern, First Base, where he says the beer is colder and there's free parking for his motorcycle. "You can see it better sitting right here," Mr. Nelson says while peering at a TV screen through a haze of cigarette smoke. The Cell, as the team's ballpark is often called here, was one of the last efficient but unappealing fields built before stadiums in Pittsburgh, Milwaukee and San Francisco showed how to design a park that's equal parts ballfield and tourist attraction. In response to fan complaints, the White Sox have spent $80 million over the past five years to make their stadium cozier, adding shapely awnings, tearing off the uppermost rows and, for opening day next year, switching seats from blue to forest green. There are advantages to attending a Sox game. Bathroom lines are short and foul balls are easier to nab. But many Chicagoans prefer the cozy confines of historic Wrigley Field, with its ivy-covered outfield walls, hand-operated scoreboard and neighborhood teeming with saloons. Despite a mediocre performance most of the year, the second-place Cubs have played to 98% capacity, and nearly had a sellout April 23 when they lost to the lowly Pittsburgh Pirates in near-freezing temperatures with 25-mile-an-hour winds blasting off Lake Michigan. "Even if we win the World Series this year, Wrigley will still sell out next year," Sox first baseman Paul Konerko says. "But I can't guarantee we'd be sold out here." Sox marketing executive Brooks Boyer says the team doesn't worry about "the 800-pound gorilla to the north," only the "frustrating" misperceptions that continue to dog the Sox. Fans are slowly coming back and attendance this year is the best in a decade. "It's not scary to be on the South Side," he insists. Ozzie Guillen, the three-time All Star shortstop for the Sox who became manager last season, says, "If we continue to win, they'll start to show up." They've won back one fan. Current mayor Richard M. Daley, son of the siren sounder, boycotted the team for two years after the 1994 strike. Now he has season tickets behind the White Sox dugout and occasionally uses his news conferences to comment on Mr. Guillen's managerial moves. White Sox General Manager Ken Williams says the team appreciates the mayor's support. "We just need him to bring ten or fifteen thousand of his friends."
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QUOTE(fathom @ Jun 14, 2005 -> 09:51 PM) If you couldn't see that his bad starts were just waiting to happen, then you weren't paying attention to his early starts. He had amazing luck early in the season avoiding the big inning, even though he gave up a ton of runners. His WHIP is a pathetic 1.60. Yeah, I've been paying attention, and the Cubans have gotten pretty lucky with timely inning ending double plays and such. It just seems like more than a change in luck is going on here.
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Look at his last four outings: 5/16 vs. Texas: 2.2 IP, 6 ER *missed a start with bad shoulder* 6/3 vs. Cleveland: 6 IP, 4 ER 6/8 at Colorado: 6 IP, 4 ER 6/14 vs. Arizona: 4.2 IP, 6 ER These are not the types of outings that we need from Hernandez. Anyone think he's still nursing some sort of injury? He hasnt been walking as many guys the past two games (1 BB each), but the results just arent there this past month.
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QUOTE(quickman @ Jun 13, 2005 -> 09:45 PM) I guess everyone now knows that Everett and frank can coexist. Injuries will happen. Just wait a day. They can co-exist, but that usually means that Podsednik is the odd man out. We're a better team when he is in the lineup than when Frank and Carl are playing together. Maybe they should put Everett in right field instead of left.
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QUOTE(kyyle23 @ Jun 11, 2005 -> 07:24 AM) Has anyone noticed that 4 of the 5 teams in the AL central are in the top 5 ERA's in the AL? That is pretty impressive for a division that is supposed to be the weakest of the 3 divisions. As I saw them last night, they were listed Minnesota Twins Chicago White Sox Cleveland Indians (insert team) Detroit Tigers If anyone knows the team I am missing, fill me in, I was half paying attention when that stat was flashed on the screen http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/stats/aggreg...t=0&season=2005 The "insert team" is the Angels.
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QUOTE(southsider2k5 @ Jun 9, 2005 -> 08:47 AM) Sending JR a check for giving him things to write about so that he can keep his job. Could be. :headshake Right now though, I see Jester's avatar I'm remembering how smoking hot Lindsay Lohan was before she dyed her hair blonde and found out that she loved crack.
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QUOTE(Iguana @ Jun 9, 2005 -> 07:25 AM) LOL. at the end it says... LMFAO. for what? calling our your lies!!?? HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA :banghead Exactly what I thought. I'm an attorney and cant figure out for the life of me what Mariotti could possibly be talking about.
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QUOTE(SoxFan101 @ Jun 7, 2005 -> 10:00 AM) Well at the same time Iguchi has had to take a lot of pitches for strikes and everything with Pods trying to steal....He isnt a natural number 2 hitter. Just what I was going to say. A lot of times Iguchi has to sacrifice him over too, for the good of the team at the expense of his own numbers.
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QUOTE(JUGGERNAUT @ Jun 3, 2005 -> 06:29 PM) Why do you think Beane wants McCarthy? That's like saying that if you already have a Porsche in the garage, you wouldn't want a Ferrari to park next to it. Why the hell wouldnt he?
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They signed autographs together at the Thompson Center a couple weeks ago.
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QUOTE(RockRaines @ Jun 3, 2005 -> 12:23 PM) once again, name the last GM to come on the radio and say they are going to trade a player. Especially one who has the largest contract ever offered by the ballclub. I told you the one that came to mind. I dont devote much brainpower to remembering the various GMs' trading strategies.
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QUOTE(3E8 @ Jun 3, 2005 -> 12:22 PM) Wasn't he just flat-out released? Not traded? They released him after they couldnt trade him. Angelo made it public that he wanted a 7th rounder and they couldnt get it.
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QUOTE(RockRaines @ Jun 3, 2005 -> 11:44 AM) name the last GM who came on the radio and said they were going to trade their players Happens pretty regularly with holdout players or ones that wont take a pay cut (see RW McQuarters).
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QUOTE(doUrememberwhen @ Jun 3, 2005 -> 10:05 AM) Do u seriously hold onto some kind of childish hope that we could get him? I do, although I dont see how it's childish.
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QUOTE(southsider2k5 @ Jun 3, 2005 -> 07:31 AM) I can't believe anyone wastes 50 cents on the Sun Times, but that is just me For the pretty pictures. Duh.
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QUOTE(EvilJester99 @ Jun 3, 2005 -> 09:51 AM) I don't because now BB can try and drive up the asking price for him. If he says he wants to trade him then his value suffers...IMO It appears that the sarcasm flew directly over your head.
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QUOTE(Dick Allen @ Jun 3, 2005 -> 09:32 AM) He already has a good fielding .220 hitter playing 3rd base. Not one that will be .280 with 30 and 90 by the end of the year because he's a second half hitter. And what are those four things Crede doesnt have? Hm...uh...oh yeah, Gold Gloves.
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Third baseman Eric Chavez laughed when told of a published rumor that had him headed to Chicago in a trade for White Sox third baseman Joe Crede and prospects. The report also characterized Chavez as eager to leave the A's. "Wrong and wrong," Chavez said. "I heard that same rumor a couple of weeks ago. Where do people come up with that [stuff]? I'm fine right where I am." This is a recording...this is a recording...this is a recording...
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*Official* Eric Chavez Speculation/Dream Thread
Adam G replied to GreatScott82's topic in Pale Hose Talk
QUOTE(Dick Allen @ Jun 2, 2005 -> 03:19 PM) THIS TRADE IS NOT HAPPENING. IT IS A RUMOR. NOTHING MORE. And rumor is all it is going to be until it happens. KW learned his lesson about blabbing to the media in the Vizquel fiasco.
