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742,000 jobs lost in March http://www.reuters.com/article/newsOne/idUSTRE5303F820090401

QUOTE (kapkomet @ Apr 1, 2009 -> 01:05 PM) Holy f***, now Obama gives QEII an ipod? WTF is wrong with these dips***s? It only had one song on it too... "f***ING RICK ROLLED AGAIN!"

QUOTE (RibbieRubarb @ Apr 1, 2009 -> 08:04 AM) Looks like Rio is clear frontrunner now...this is sucky news. http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/olymp...1038,382,.story f***ing Rick rolled... AGAIN

QUOTE (StrangeSox @ Mar 31, 2009 -> 02:42 PM) That wasn't my point. I was refuting your point that "even the French are against this!" because the French did the exact same thing. Yes, they spent less, but that's because their industry is considerably smaller. I didn't say whether I agree with it. The EU has spent considerably less on bailouts and 'stimulus'. They aren't doing what the US is doing.

QUOTE (StrangeSox @ Mar 31, 2009 -> 02:10 PM) Renault and Clio aren't exactly the same size as GM. you've convinced me. i'm on the bailout bandwagon now. free money for everyone! if we would just give every American a million dollars it would completely get rid of poverty in the US and end the recession. i don't see how this can possibly go wrong.

QUOTE (StrangeSox @ Mar 31, 2009 -> 06:45 AM) What? http://www.prlog.org/10183069-french-gover...ry-bailout.html The French bailed out their auto industry. pfft, you call that a bailout. not even 10 billion. thats 5 times less than what we already have given in auto bailouts.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Mar 30, 2009 -> 08:16 PM) And in this case, they are wrong. (Wait a second, did you just tell me I was wrong because of something Old Europe was choosing to do? I thought Old Europe was wrong in everything. I'm so confused. ) Nope, Olde Timey Europe is right. Even france. Balta, you know you want to agree with France. You have too. It's part of the contract you signed to be a 'progressive'.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Mar 30, 2009 -> 08:10 PM) Actually, it's really quite remarkable how effective the deficit spending has been at avoiding the fall that happened when the credit markets seized up in 1929. And we will see 15% unemployment if we simply let the auto industry fail. all it's doing is creating more problems than it's solving. you notice other countries aren't going along with this madness that Obama is subjecting our economy to. the Obama economic plan is an outright disaster.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Mar 30, 2009 -> 08:01 PM) $30 billion = multiple trillions? If sustaining 5+ million jobs nationwide and really avoiding a depression only costs a few tens of billions of dollars, it's a good move. If it costs nearly a trillion to keep the financial industry afloat, then you've got a point. ah of course avoid the 'great depression' fear mongering. Balta, you do realize that was the EXACT argument in favor of writing a blank check for trillions to the banks? if anything this deficit spending will end up destroying our economy. Obama is saving nothing in terms of jobs. Unemployment is raising, his stimulus plan will be a bust. We could easily see 15% national unemployment in 2 years.

QUOTE (NorthSideSox72 @ Mar 30, 2009 -> 07:55 PM) You really had to do both, if you want the industry to survive. Restructure first, then loans if needed. There wasn't the political will to make that move. Now, it has to be done because it has been realized that there is no other solution.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Mar 30, 2009 -> 07:35 PM) And frankly, I still do. The industry can not be allowed to fail now. Simply saying that the first step should have been a restructuring rather than giving them money ignores the fact that their sales had fallen off so dramatically that they couldn't have made it through December without government help. It was still the right move, and it's a vastly more efficient jobs program than dumping money down the banks' bottomless pit. No, it really isn't any more efficient to dump endless billions into the auto industry. This is faulty logic: that because the bank bailout was a bad idea, all other bad ideas are indeed good. Before the auto industry got any money they should have been restructured. It's completely unsustainable to feed trillions in deficit spending to prop up these failed corporations. It has now been proven that the auto bailouts were a failure and the wrong move.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Mar 30, 2009 -> 05:33 PM) Am I missing something or wasn't the first step done in December? GW Bush gave out the original billions, the first African-American GW Bush completely supports these billions in bailouts. Actually, I believe the first African-American GW Bush had a big meeting with the original GW Bush and told him he REALLY wanted the auto bailout to go trough. If I remember correctly, you also completely supported all the auto bailouts. http://www.reuters.com/article/vcCandidate...E4AB8T620081112

so our lead off hitter has a career .214 BA and .254 OBP i hope Dewayne has a magical break through year.

QUOTE (NorthSideSox72 @ Mar 30, 2009 -> 02:55 PM) So, the Obama administration, adding to the Waggoner departure, are basically pushing GM and Chrysler towards a controled bankruptcy or bankruptcy-like reorganization, in addition to executive changes. Good. Glad to see them going this direction. It does show a disturbing (at best) lack of vision within the Obama administration. The first step should have been a controlled restructuring; not blindly giving out billions upon billions upon billions to the auto companies.

It's obvious that Obama merely wanted to blame someone as to limit public outrage while continuing to give large returns to the UAW for their extensive campaign bribes. This administration is completely for sale.

QUOTE (Y2HH @ Mar 30, 2009 -> 10:38 AM) I think the problem with that is they've "illegalized" encryption in these cases. I know that's a made up word, but it is what it is. Under the guise of "national security" they can force you to give up your encrypted passwords, and if you refuse they can outright confiscate said device(s) for an unspecified amount of time. Welcome to 1984 in 2009. f*** them. use some crazy ass operating system they can't figure out. you'll never get my mp3's OBAMA!

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Mar 30, 2009 -> 10:28 AM) They need a bankruptcy to fix their problems. The boat is sunk, its just a matter of how long it takes to get to the bottom. The reason they aren't moving forward is Obama knows if they go under, the unions get screwed, and he doesn't want to lose votes from one of his strongest groups of supporters. The unions also give tons of money to the Democrats.

QUOTE (StrangeSox @ Mar 30, 2009 -> 07:08 AM) "I didn't inhale" will become "I didn't listen to it" haha

QUOTE (bmags @ Mar 29, 2009 -> 07:44 PM) "I illegally downloaded music" "Well, when we search your computer and find it you'll go to jail"

QUOTE (knightni @ Mar 29, 2009 -> 03:51 PM) Too many Rivers, Forests, Parks and Lakes in Chicago suburbs. even some which just combine a couple of those words, like Lake Forest.

QUOTE (Soxbadger @ Mar 29, 2009 -> 03:27 PM) Nice win for MSU. indeed. the rest of the tourney games are in Michigan too

QUOTE (Heads22 @ Mar 27, 2009 -> 05:04 PM) http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive/years...27092sham1.html She apparently didn't say wow. seeing the mugshots, looks like shamwow guy got beat up by a hooker

QUOTE (NorthSideSox72 @ Mar 27, 2009 -> 07:11 AM) The Obama administration has already made leaps and bounds past BushCo in terms of releasing information documents. I hope this was sarcasm

QUOTE (maggsmaggs @ Mar 26, 2009 -> 08:45 PM) Pitching Pitching Pitching and some D. ^^^

WOW http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/politic...0,5682373.story Rahm Emanuel directly linked to Freddie Mac and knew about what was going on.