Steff

QUOTE(Heads22 @ Sep 7, 2005 -> 12:39 PM) Of course, watch out for Steff. She's got fangs. And I aint afraid to use them...

QUOTE(FlaSoxxJim @ Sep 7, 2005 -> 12:37 PM) No, I referred only to past NEGATIVITY in their posts concerning the team's play. Iwritecode's post suggested that LV had a number of negative posts (about the team, not personal attacks or anything else), and that constituted the history that the mods thought was sufficient for a banning. You opined that there usually is a history proceeding such actions (and there is), and I suggested that if a history of simple negativity (no personal attacks, no attacks on players) became a ban-able offense here there would be plenty of casualties. Misunderstanding then. Sorry bout that. 30 lashes for me. Yea baby!!

QUOTE(LVSoxFan @ Sep 7, 2005 -> 12:32 PM) And besides it's a moot point anyway! It was... until you brought it here. There are plenty of Sox boards around. Heck, you might not even end up liking this one (watch out for that Southsider guy.. he's an asshole ). And if you don't you'll find one you do like. In the mean time... you're right. They are cruising now. Let's enjoy it.

QUOTE(FlaSoxxJim @ Sep 7, 2005 -> 12:26 PM) It seems you did in the current case, if LV's "History...." amounts to nothing more than the sort of sentiments in the example post. It cartainly can get tiresome to see the same negativity at times (often from the same solks), but the "other site's" decision to ban based on some doomsaying at the end of a month we all wanted to forget is treating dandruff by decapitation. Give the rest of the board community enough credit that they can decide for themselves to ignore the psosts from specific posters they disagree with. Did you not attempt to compare them banning someone with posters here being banned for their past actions...? Over there, I assume from observation, they keep track of posters they feel are, or might be issues, here... that doesn't happen. I did not mean to insinuate that they wake up one day and start banning people, which is what would be the case if someone got banned from here.

QUOTE(Greg The Bull Luzinski @ Sep 7, 2005 -> 12:26 PM) Even me? Even you...

QUOTE(Greg The Bull Luzinski @ Sep 7, 2005 -> 12:23 PM) Or ignore the poster that you don't like. :banghead I don't have that problem.. I like everyone.

QUOTE(Greg The Bull Luzinski @ Sep 7, 2005 -> 12:19 PM) Soxtalk is generally a great place. Soxtalk is ALWAYS a GREAT place.

QUOTE(Greg The Bull Luzinski @ Sep 7, 2005 -> 12:21 PM) Some people debate of the semantics of this board way too much don't they. I thought we were all here to talk about the White Sox and because Soxtalk is the best place to do it. If you don't like the topic, maybe leave the thread.

QUOTE(LVSoxFan @ Sep 7, 2005 -> 12:18 PM) I wasn't trying to wash dirty laundry, I was trying to get perspective from Sox fans at the one other place I know, and where I've lurked. OK.. well welcome.

QUOTE(FlaSoxxJim @ Sep 7, 2005 -> 12:16 PM) If they started banning posters here for having a history of negativity associated with their chosen ball club, it would thin the place out a lot. And that would be unfortunate, because right now I know that however badly I take a Sox loss I can just jump on here and see somebody with their head in the oven taking it worse. Makes me feel downright sane (well, saner at least). I don't think I insinuated that's what they do.

QUOTE(Queen Prawn @ Sep 7, 2005 -> 12:11 PM) Steff - I didn't think he was washing dirty laundry just asking if he/she was out of bounds with the post. Posts after it, I can not speak for them. Semantics. I wouldn't question Jason and Co's rules at another board.

QUOTE(Iwritecode @ Sep 7, 2005 -> 12:06 PM) I looked back at some of your posts and a couple of times it sounded like you were ready to jump off the nearest tall building because of the way the team was playing. It looks like one of the mods noticed your constant "dark cloud" behavior and got annoyed by it. IMHO of course... History.... They usually have a reason. IMO as well.

QUOTE(LVSoxFan @ Sep 7, 2005 -> 12:05 PM) I have no problem with rules or staying in them. I also understand that nobody wants to hear from dark clouds constantly. But like I said; I was just stating the obvious, not waving a white flag. I would hope that if I posted something here that ticked a mod off, he/she would: a) Just delete it B) PM me c) email me d) Or just explain what was inappropriate Nada. You saw what happened. They do things different there. It's their gig. So be it. Sorry that happened - but I don't agree with washing your dirty laundry here. No offense to you at all, and I'm sure you'll like it here.

QUOTE(Flash Tizzle @ Sep 7, 2005 -> 12:04 PM) You know its different for you and Hendry, Steff. I guarantee you could post an attendance thread without it moving or receiving a suspension. Did you read what LV posted? Justify that banning. Where in their rules does it state posting legitimate concerns about the team is grounds for banishment? Professional courtesy? What's professional about a fan-website? Often their moderators take threads and change titles around to insult members. Trolls may deserve it, but should Chisox233 (for example) know he's a "whiner." No, I couldn't. Posters there longer than I have been there have been cut at the knees for doing so. They don't want attendance threads, so be it. It's their house. Yes I read it... justify it? No. I'm not a mod there, and I have no idea of the history, so I can't - and won't. Not fair to either party. Professional.. yes, I conisder what Jason and Co here and George and Co there do as professional, and they deserve to be respected for their sites and how they run them.

QUOTE(Chisoxrd5 @ Sep 7, 2005 -> 12:02 PM) I don't think thats a very fair comparison... I'm pretty sure If I join WSI right now and use foul language I would be banned immediately. Personal relationships and 1,000's of posts have given you the right to speak your mind. Actually they have a language filter and they ask that members just spell out the language rather than mask it. Masking it will get you banned. But for s***s and giggles.. maybe you should do that. And for the record.. I know Jason and Co here way better than I know George Bova.

QUOTE(Greg The Bull Luzinski @ Sep 7, 2005 -> 12:01 PM) :sleep You never disappoint. What was that about WSI...? Carry on..

QUOTE(IlliniKrush @ Sep 7, 2005 -> 11:59 AM) How much, if any, SRO would they sell? Seems like they could just cramming people on the outfield concourse if they wanted to. Why are you worried about this...??? :rolly

QUOTE(Greg The Bull Luzinski @ Sep 7, 2005 -> 11:54 AM) Some mods are drunk with power. Considering that I have seen Mods tossing the F-word around like candy at a parade, I feel bad for you. I hope you have a better experience this time and are able to avoid the mod that banned you. I use the "f" word at WSI, and here, and I've never been banned there. I've also been negative, critical, and even at times I attack Henry - although he deserves it Yet I somehow manage to do all that within their "rules". It's not that hard, really. On another note.. they close and move any threads discussing Soxtalk or s***ting on the mods from here to their roadhouse to die. Some professional courtesy perhaps...

QUOTE(Cerbaho-WG @ Sep 7, 2005 -> 11:26 AM) I'm donating my time today to volunteer at an American Cross blood drive, donate $50, then give some blood. Hopefully I can now be forgiven of being a huge cynical asshole. We spent 5 hours on Sunday preparing supplies and I got to talk to several people on the phone from Houston who were searching the RC database for missing family members. Heartbreaking... I'm going over the weekend again to help at the 2 shelters near us that are expecting about 80 families over the next 2 days. I can't wait to meet some of these people.

Soxy.. Rob Thomas was on Letterman last night.. did you happen to catch it?

QUOTE(Queen Prawn @ Sep 7, 2005 -> 09:23 AM) to Konerko ::waiting to see how long it takes to become a Konerko bash thread:: Paul sucks.

A little law and order.. http://www.alertnet.org/thenews/newsdesk/N0685475.htm New Orleans bus station becomes temporary jail 06 Sep 2005 22:38:37 GMT Source: Reuters By Mark Egan NEW ORLEANS, Sept 6 (Reuters) - Rapists, an attempted murder suspect and dozens of men who looted New Orleans after hurricane Katrina huddle in a temporary jail set up as police try to regain city streets which were lawless last week. The scrawled cardboard sign on the front door of the Greyhound Bus Station, now a makeshift jail reads simply, "We Are Taking New Orleans Back." Inside the accused, almost all black men aged 18 to 35, are herded out of confinement into buses by heavily armed officers from Angola State Penitentiary. They stand handcuffed, disheveled and filthy, many with torn clothes, waiting to be taken to a place where they will stand trial via videoconference with judges in Baton Rouge. The trial facility became operational on Sunday as part of an effort to restore law and order to a chaotic city, rife with crime and lawlessness for days after Katrina hit. Louisiana State Department of Corrections Lt. Col. Bobby Achord described those held as mainly looters. Others were incarcerated for more serious accusations. "One guy here is up for attempted murder on a New Orleans police officer," Achord told Reuters. "He was involved in a shootout with New Orleans police in an incident where the officer shot four of them dead." "We had another guy here last night who was found shooting at a helicopter," he said. In another case, a homeless man is accused of raping a woman in a deserted downtown street. The woman fought and freed herself then flagged down police, who apprehended her attacker. Other crimes were less serious. Achord said some looters were caught with absurd spoils, like the man arrested fleeing a hardware store with a large bag of screws. Facilities, where the inmates are kept for up to 24 hours before being shipped out, are crude. In cramped enclosures made of wire fences topped with barbed wire, they sit on concrete floors stained with oil from busses that normally load passengers here. In the corner of each enclosure is a "porta-potty" with no door and a water cooler. Meals are military rations. The temporary jail can hold 700 inmates. Those locked up here are guarded by corrections officer from Angola prison -- a notorious facility known for it's hardened criminals and tough guards. Pointing at officers nudging prisoners to waiting busses, Achord said, "These guards are used to handling people who are real bad. They are very professional but very firm." Those charged with felonies will go to Angola if they are convicted. About 90 percent of Angola's inmates -- currently totaling 5,108 -- usually die there. Since Katrina devastated New Orleans and other Louisiana towns, another 2,000 prisoners have been temporarily transferred to Angola. Officials at the bus station jail said they want to get the message out that they are in business because most police in the mostly evacuated city are unaware it exists. Asked if reporters could talk to the inmates, Achord suggested that was not a good idea. "The thing is," he said, pointing at the men behind the fence, "if those guys got rowdy we do have non-lethal weapons we could use to try and control them. But if they started pushing that fence down, we'd have to kill somebody."

http://www.algore-08.com/index.php?option=...d=273&Itemid=78 Gore accompanies about 140 arrivals from New Orleans but declines to take credit From the Knoxville News Sentinel By ROBERT WILSON They saw nature's unmatched fury up close. Now they would see unbridled human compassion. About 140 people - mostly elderly and infirm - arrived Saturday at McGhee Tyson Airport on a chartered mercy flight from hurricane-ravaged New Orleans, welcomed to East Tennessee by a bright sun and a host of medical professionals straining at the reins to help their fellow human beings without regard to whether they were on the clock. The displaced hurricane victims came to Tennessee on a hastily arranged flight, accompanied by doctors and carrying whatever they had in boxes, bags or, in one case, an old suitcase tied up with rope. Former Vice President Al Gore arranged the flight and was on board, but he declined to take credit for the airlift, fearing it would be "politicized."

:headshake http://uk.news.yahoo.com/06092005/140/stor...themselves.html Storm Survivors Told To 'Expose Themselves' Tuesday September 6, 03:28 PM A group of female hurricane survivors were told to show their breasts if they wanted to be rescued, a British holidaymaker has revealed.Ged Scott watched as American rescuers turned their boat around and sped off when the the women refused. The account was just another example of the horror stories emerging from the hurricane disaster zone. Mr Scott, 36, of Liverpool, was with his wife and seven-year-old daughter in the Ramada Hotel when the flood waters started rising. "At one point, there were a load of girls on the roof of the hotel saying 'Can you help us?' and the policemen said 'Show us what you've got' and made signs for them to lift their T-shirts," he told the Liverpool Evening Echo. "When the girls refused, they said `Fine' and motored off down the road in their boat." At one point he had to wade through filthy water to barricade the hotel doors against looters. He said the experience made him want to vomit. Mr Scott also slated the rescue operation, saying police were more interested in taking snapshots of the devastation rather than rescuing the victims. "I could not have a lower opinion of the authorities, from the police officers on the street right up to George Bush," he said. "I couldn't describe how bad the authorities were. Just little things like taking photographs of us, as we are standing on the roof waving for help, for their own little snapshot albums" He added: "The American people saved us. I wish I could say the same for the American authorities." Mike Brocken, of Chester, said he feared his wife Christine and 18-year-old daughter Stephanie would be raped when they went into the Louisiana Superdome. The family were also racially abused by other refugees in the stadium. Mr Brocken, a BBC Radio Merseyside presenter and music lecturer, told the station: "We were going to go inside the Superdome. "I approached two members of the National Guard and they said to stay outside because they knew it was hell in there. "One female office basically said under no circumstances take the women in there, because she knew what it was like. "We were so frightened and we stayed alongside the National Guard for some kind of protection. "It was at that stage that they started to take us under their wing and eventually managed to get us into the basketball stadium." He added: "Everyone talks about the National Guard in rather derogatory ways historically, but I've got to say that, but for them, and one man in particular, I may well have lost my family."

I fully expected some bulls*** excuses. http://www.cnn.com/2005/WORLD/meast/09/06/...fess/index.html Talabani: Saddam confesses to execution orders Tuesday, September 6, 2005; Posted: 7:00 p.m. EDT (23:00 GMT) Saddam Hussein's trial will begin on October 19, the Iraqi government BAGHDAD, Iraq (CNN) -- Saddam Hussein has confessed that he gave orders to execute thousands of Kurds in the late 1980s, according to Iraqi President Jalal Talabani. In an interview with Iraq's state-funded broadcaster al-Iraqiya, Talabani said he had spoken to one of the Iraqi Special Tribunal judges involved in the investigation who said that "he was able to take important confessions from Saddam Hussein and he has signed these confessions and there is video and audio for these confessions." Talabani said the judge told him that Saddam confessed that he gave orders for the executions and military operations directed against Kurds in what came to be called the Anfal campaign. Talabani refuted charges that the current government was exerting political pressure to expedite the trial, saying, "The Iraqi judiciary will sentence Saddam with what it sees suitable. There is no political order." On Sunday a spokesman for Iraqi Prime Minister Ibrahim al-Jaafari said that the first trial of Saddam would begin on October 19. Along with others, Saddam is charged in connection with a series of 1982 detentions and executions following an assassination attempt against him. Saddam has been in custody since December 2003, when he was captured by U.S. troops. The 1982 charges are the first of several Saddam is expected to face. He appeared last year before an Iraqi tribunal to hear a list of preliminary charges against him, including the 1990 invasion of Kuwait; the 1986-88 Anfal campaign against the Kurdish minority in northern Iraq; the 1988 chemical attack on the Kurdish town of Halabja during that campaign; and the suppression of the 1991 revolts by Iraq's Kurdish and Shia populations.