Steff

QUOTE(YASNY @ Mar 18, 2005 -> 11:37 AM) Good point. But the Scott Peterson comment makes a point and "he" doesn't have to be Scott Peterson. I don't see the relevance.. can you elaborate further?

QUOTE(RibbieRubarb @ Mar 18, 2005 -> 11:05 AM) Who doesn't think about small Asian girls? Perv...

QUOTE(YASNY @ Mar 18, 2005 -> 11:00 AM) I thought this was the congressional hearing thread.

QUOTE(JUGGERNAUT @ Mar 18, 2005 -> 10:58 AM) Schilling was asked a similar question & he either answered 5 to 10 or 10 to 15 guys he knew were using that he played with. This was in stark contrast to his quotes in 2002. BTW.. the feed was distorted at work yesterday so when I watched it last night I made sure to listen for that part and he did say 5-10 so I wanted to make sure I told you that I was incorrect in saying the said 10-15.

QUOTE(T R U @ Mar 18, 2005 -> 10:53 AM) BMI also has to do with your build.. My BMI says im "obese" but it doesnt take in account muscle or anything like that, so it can be a little off I say I'm average.. the doctor says I am petite. When I think of petite.. I think if a little 4'6" 90lb Asian girl...

QUOTE(LosMediasBlancas @ Mar 18, 2005 -> 10:25 AM) I had no problem with any of it. Schilling was gonna have his say. If Jose can dish it, he better be able to take it. You wanna talk, let's talk. About the 30 years ago, again fair answer. He was indirectly saying that those were different people involved, so that's why he should be believed. I didn't say Jose couldn't take it.. I said I didn't like it. As well as my other comments... my opinions.

I think they burned him good on his quotes from an 02 SI article. I also think he was a asshole for attacking Jose when Jose didn't say anything about him in his book. Made him look desperate and brought it to my attention that he was trying to make the hearing about discrediting Jose and not about making the penalties tougher. I also think he was disrespectful when asked why should congress believe that they would do anything now comparing it to 30 years ago... "well, I wasn't around 30 years ago..." No s*** sherlock... the question was easily answered with a "because it needs to stop". IMO, of course.

QUOTE(LosMediasBlancas @ Mar 18, 2005 -> 10:06 AM) I keep hearing how Schilling looked arrogant, rude and slimey. I didn't see that at all. He was the most eloquent speaker and chose his words very carefully and didn't get suckered into a corner like the others. He seemed to impressed Congress, they even joked that he sounded like a politician. He's a player rep, right? The guy doesn't want anyone else involved and feels baseball can fix the problem itself. Maybe that's naive or just plain stupid, but he seems sincere in believing it. I don't see that as a compliment.

QUOTE(Grebeck Fan Club @ Mar 18, 2005 -> 10:00 AM) There was almost no mention of Big Frank in the stories I read about the testimony. He made such a good impression that he was forgotten. Oh well, it sure beats negative press. Because he didn't do anything other than make an opening statement. The feed was lost after the break so he was excused from the remainder if the hearing.

QUOTE(tonyho7476 @ Mar 18, 2005 -> 09:12 AM) And where are they replaying that last panel? What time,etc? They will be relpaying it again on C-Span at 10am Sunday morning.

QUOTE(tonyho7476 @ Mar 18, 2005 -> 09:12 AM) I listened all day, and then missed out on the Selig stuff...i did hear about the Pete Rose comparison and how ridiculous steroid punishment is when compared with gambling. Steff, what other good stuff came out of the Selig/Fehr/alderson panel? I don't want to try and read this whole thread. Ya know what.. I'm going to watch it again with Jim and I'll write a summary. I honestly can't remember everything and I do have to get some work done today.. LOL. I'm pretty sure the transcripts will be (or might even already be) avaliable thought.. maybe on the C-Span website if you want to read them. They, Manford especially (who I think is a total and complete asswhipe) got their asses handed to them several times.

QUOTE(LosMediasBlancas @ Mar 18, 2005 -> 09:07 AM) By the way, I can't remember the last time my TV entertained me as much as it did last night. Got home at like 5:45, put the replay on, looked up and it was 11:00 PM.!! Best stuff since 9-11. LOL.. I was obsessed. I watched it all friggin day while at work.. watched it when I got home.. then set the Tivo (for some reason it cut off after the players first break) so Jim could watch it tonight and ended up watching it for another 2 hours... Then watched more of it this morning while working out.

I watched some more of the hearings this morning and I have to agree 150% with Yas.. I wish they would have forced more answers out of them, especially Mark. But like I said earlier.. his actions at that table buried him. If anyone had a doubt before they have got to be clear now. One other thing I just can't get over is Curt and his BS. I honestly have never really paid much attention to him, but I never thought he was that much of an asshole. I thought he was really going out of his way to be disrespectful with some of his snide remarks. Really pushing the envelope to see what he could get away with. I really did not like the way they took the opportunity to s*** on Jose. If he lied about you.. take it up with him. They aren't. That speaks loud and clear to me. I watched Raffy's statement over and over... and I am even more convinced that he used. Totally rehearsed. I believe he's clean now.. but I definitely think he used in the past. I'm going to watch Selig and Co again tonight.. I really liked the way that they were going after them last night. Loved that they caught them in some BS. Overall... as I said before.. I didn't see this as the whitchhunt it was called. I think congress is sincere in wanting to clean things up. And I think it's needed because I don't believe MLB is capable of doing it themselves.

FINE This is the word women use to end an argument when they are right and you need to shut up. FIVE MINUTES If she is getting dressed, this is half an hour. Five minutes is only five minutes if you have just been given 5 more minutes to watch the game before helping around the house. NOTHING This is the calm before the storm. This means "something," and you should be on your toes. Arguments that begin with 'Nothing' usually end in "Fine" GO AHEAD This is a dare, not permission. Don't do it. LOUD SIGH This is not actually a word, but is a non-verbal statement often misunderstood by men. A "Loud Sigh" means she thinks you are an idiot and wonders why she is wasting her time standing here and arguing with you over "Nothing" THAT'S OKAY This is one of the most dangerous statements that a woman can make to a man. "That's Okay" means that she wants to think long and hard before deciding how and when you will pay for your mistake. THANKS A woman is thanking you. Do not question it or faint. Just say you're welcome.

I agree sox-r-us... Jose's method wasn't exactly the best.. but it sure was effective.

Well peoples... I have to get going as I have to get my fat butt up very early and do the running that I didn't do tonight. Good time discussing this with you guys today. See ya's tomorrow.

QUOTE(DBAH0 @ Mar 17, 2005 -> 10:02 PM) I only weigh a little over 100 pounds myself (yes I know I'm tiny), but my family is just very small, my mum and sister would weigh less than me. But I'm happy and healthy so that's all that matters. All you folks are tiny down there..

QUOTE(ptatc @ Mar 17, 2005 -> 09:56 PM) I don't know about anyone else but there really wasn't a whole lot new in the hearings. However, if it helps MLB as a whole get more done about banishing steriods it was worth it. IMO, showing Shilling and Mark's ignorant sides was something new, for me anyway. I definitely think Mark making an ass out of himself was worth the decline in my work production today.

QUOTE(ptatc @ Mar 17, 2005 -> 09:53 PM) Exactly, those things are decent for references but a healthy lifestyle with regular health check ups is the most important thing. Well.. I weigh 114 and according to those I am underweight but according to a physical I'm in great health. They should update them if they are that far off. Anyway... back to the topic. Thanks for the info.

QUOTE(ptatc @ Mar 17, 2005 -> 09:49 PM) Like most of the standards in use today they are out of date and don't apply to reality. My favorite is the % body fat scale at 5'8' I should weigh about 160 pounds. I run marthons and I haven't been below 175 since 8th grade. I'm 5'6" and some of those weight things say I should weigh 130... if I weighed 130 I would kill myself.

QUOTE(ptatc @ Mar 17, 2005 -> 09:46 PM) Was that the guy over McGwire's left shoulder? I was noticing that for most of the testimony. He's the tan guy with glasses.

QUOTE(ptatc @ Mar 17, 2005 -> 09:43 PM) I assume your refrring to yourself? If you are it's good for a female. For male it should be a little lower. Yea.. myself. I got a BMI analysis done reciently and from it, and it claims for my height and weight I should have a BMI in the 18 to 20 range....??

When Mark is asked what his message would be be he replies "that roids are bad" he is them asked how he knows they are bad... has he seen the effects of them...? And he responds "I have been advised from my attny not to answer that" All the while Roger Kossak, ESPN legal analyst, is behind him trying so hard not to laugh...

QUOTE(WilliamTell @ Mar 17, 2005 -> 09:35 PM) This is Steff's thread, I'm doing what her sig is doing. Over 200 posts on this thread, and is very knowledgable on this subject. Thanks WT. Unfortunately I know a lot about it from seeing the damage first hand. Sad.. I wish it was zero tolerance.