Felix

QUOTE(Felix @ Aug 8, 2006 -> 11:08 PM) I don't have faith in Jenks to get out of the 9th unscathed, but I never do when he comes in for more than an inning. er, 10th*

QUOTE(fathom @ Aug 8, 2006 -> 11:07 PM) BTW...Ozzie deserves a lot of credit for bringing in Jenks before. I don't have faith in Jenks to get out of the 9th unscathed, but I never do when he comes in for more than an inning.

QUOTE(Heads22 @ Aug 8, 2006 -> 11:06 PM) Oh wait. This game is already over. We can't score against Rivera. The seasons over too. But oh well, maybe next year.

QUOTE(whitesoxfan101 @ Aug 8, 2006 -> 10:59 PM) Reaching?? IF we lose tonight, it would be our 7th or 8th loss on the year due exclusively to a bad play in CF by Mack in a close game. Shouldn't Ozzie get the message here that you can't put him out there? Plus, Brian hits righties better than lefties anyways. QUOTE(Felix @ Aug 8, 2006 -> 10:58 PM) I'm talking about now, when he put Jenks in. Clearly, you didn't want Cotts in there, so you must have wanted someone else. Who is that magical player?

That Damon swing reminds me of the ALDS last year with El Duque, except he tried to check it then. Still, good memories.

QUOTE(whitesoxfan101 @ Aug 8, 2006 -> 10:57 PM) Anybody but Cotts, ESPECIALLY against lefties, who he can't get out right now at all. I'm talking about now, when he put Jenks in. Clearly, you didn't want Cotts in there, so you must have wanted someone else. Who is that magical player?

QUOTE(fathom @ Aug 8, 2006 -> 10:56 PM) Yeah, he had no chance on that play. There's still no excuse for his lack of a throw home in the first inning. I can't say anything about that simply because I missed the first few innings. QUOTE(whitesoxfan101 @ Aug 8, 2006 -> 10:56 PM) Now Ozzie brings in Jenks in a NSS in the middle of an inning. He's aware that Jenks sucked coming in this type of spot BEFORE his recent struggles right?? Why wouldn't Jenks start this inning if he's coming in?? *shakes head* Who do you want him to bring in? Clearly its not Cotts, and the rest of the bullpen is basically used other than Riske.

QUOTE(whitesoxfan101 @ Aug 8, 2006 -> 10:53 PM) Having Thornton pitch to one of the most patient hitters in the game, bringing Cotts in in a non mop up spot, or Mack being in center, which gave the Yanks the run that is why they had a lead starting the 9th. Which move is the worst one by Ozzie tonight?? At usual, there are multiple candidates. I turned the game on after the Yankees scored most of their runs (caught the bottom of the 3rd), but I don't see how Ozzie can be blamed for this.

QUOTE(BigSqwert @ Aug 8, 2006 -> 10:53 PM) Farmer questioned why Pods didn't even make a throw into 2nd. It wouldn't have been close at all. Pods did the smart thing by not even risking it.

QUOTE(fathom @ Aug 8, 2006 -> 10:51 PM) Don't let the door hit your ass on the way out. This is my first post in tonights game thread, but

QUOTE(Milkman delivers @ Aug 8, 2006 -> 01:24 PM) A loss?! Get that weak s*** out of here. EDIT: It's not spiff anymore? The loss was a bulls*** one too in Pittsburgh.. stupid walkoff shot. At least that game included a spectacular shot by Thome.

QUOTE(Milkman delivers @ Aug 8, 2006 -> 12:42 PM) The Sox are undefeated when I'm in attendance this year. The solution to their recent struggles is clear. Give me your tickets, and I will ensure a playoff spot for our team. Let's start tonight. Who wants to be the first to help the team and fork over a ticket (preferably somewhere near the dugout)? They are 4-1 with me there.. I'll take any and all tickets too (along with plane tickets to get to Chicago)

QUOTE(JimH @ Aug 8, 2006 -> 09:13 AM) Batting average means hardly anything? Wow I did not know that. I wonder why they've been keeping track of it all these years then. They've been keeping track of it because its the most basic stat to calculate, and the easiest. What is a more basic percentage than hits divided by at bats? Just a question, but do you agree with me that Frank Thomas has been a FAR superior hitter than Juan Pierre this year, even though Juan Pierre has the higher batting average?

QUOTE(Hangar18 @ Aug 8, 2006 -> 09:07 AM) In other words, if its only the 4th, and Vazquez is throwing the ball all over the place, he gets taken out ASAP. No more throwing games away in the 5th inning for pride. After a week or two, your bullpen will be worn out completely.

QUOTE(JimH @ Aug 8, 2006 -> 08:56 AM) Look, if you're looking to argue, forget it. You are picking one stat out. You are picking OPS, I looked at batting average. So basically, you're looking at a stat that means hardly anything, while I'm looking at a stat that is a better way of judging how complete an offensive player is. QUOTE(JimH @ Aug 8, 2006 -> 08:56 AM) I said they are both good clutch hitters, and they both are. Just from watching AJ, I disagree there. I don't consider him a clutch hitter in the least (but then again, this is my personal opinion). QUOTE(JimH @ Aug 8, 2006 -> 08:56 AM) If you want to pick out one season and point it out as mediocre, take a look at one of Crede's seasons. I'm sure you'll find one, you won't even have to look very hard. Yep, Crede hasn't been a very good offensive player in the past. I believe he's turned a corner, as do many other people. If he truely has turned said corner, then he is a much, much better offensive player than AJ Pierzynski. If he hasn't, then looking at his entire career is much more reasonable, and it's fair to say that they are similar offensively and that Crede isn't much better.

QUOTE(JimH @ Aug 8, 2006 -> 08:43 AM) Well you and VAFan can say he's a better hitter but I guess it's because you say so. Just because Crede is a better hitter than he used to be (which I totally agree with) doesn't make him a far superior hitter than Pierzynski. The career stats don't show it. This seasons stats don't show it. No, they don't. Crede's season OPS: .882 AJP's season OPS: .796 QUOTE(JimH @ Aug 8, 2006 -> 08:43 AM) They are both good clutch hitters. lol. AJP with RISP: .268/.322/.385/.719 Crede with RISP: .348/.385/.511/.896 QUOTE(JimH @ Aug 8, 2006 -> 08:43 AM) Pierzynski has always been a good hitter. Yep, his 2005 was spectacular. .257/.308/.420.

QUOTE(JimH @ Aug 8, 2006 -> 08:23 AM) That wasn't the comparison. He said Crede is a vastly superior hitter than Pierzynski. The naked eye and the stats say otherwise. Anyone can pick and choose certain stats. However when he makes one of his usual over the top blanket statements, it should mean that one guy is statistically superior to another in just about every category, if not all categories. That isn't the case. QUOTE(JimH @ Aug 8, 2006 -> 08:03 AM) A .291 lifetime hitter vs. a .263 lifetime hitter and you say the .263 hitter is a "far better hitter"? Wake up. You say a .291 lifetime hitter. AJP is a .291 lifetime hitter. You say a .263 lifetime hitter. Mark McGwire is a .263 lifetime hitter. Mark McGwire was a far better hitter than AJP is. You are looking at a stat which isn't the best to judge hitters. If you look at OPS, you'll see that AJ and Crede are incredibly close over their careers, which still doesn't tell the whole story. Crede is a different hitter than he used to be, and his stats show it. Something clicked in his head during the stretch run last year, and he's a much, much better hitter now, and a much, much better hitter than AJP is.

QUOTE(JimH @ Aug 8, 2006 -> 08:03 AM) You really need to learn the game, some of the crap you spew is beyond laughable. A .291 lifetime hitter vs. a .263 lifetime hitter and you say the .263 hitter is a "far better hitter"? Wake up. You mean sort of like how AJ Pierzynski is a better hitter than Mark McGwire, who owned a career .263 average.

QUOTE(Wealz @ Aug 7, 2006 -> 11:37 PM) What's Guillen's career winning percentage as manager? 246-187, .568

QUOTE(Kalapse @ Aug 7, 2006 -> 11:18 PM) What date does that start at? April 15th to August 6th.

Not that it means anything, or that anyone really cares, but I found this interesting since I thought the difference wouldn't be this large. Since his miserable start to the year (which can likely be attributed to the lack of a spring training), Pods has put up a .287/.361/.411 line, which is more than respectable, and pretty damn good for a leadoff man.

QUOTE(TitoMB345 @ Aug 7, 2006 -> 10:49 PM) If his arm is dead, and thats an if, his ERA has been around 11 since. I don't want a 2007 starter with an 11 ERA, its really not that confusing. Yes, because thats realistic. So Mark has some bad starts, which suddenly erase numberous years in the past of being solid? Seriously, look at more than just the past few starts. He hasn't done well, this is known by now, but does that mean his career is over (which is basically what you are saying)? No.

QUOTE(fathom @ Aug 7, 2006 -> 09:58 PM) You know expectations are high on here when almost every game has someone say how it was the most frustrating game of the year. You know its sad when fathom takes words right out of my mouth (or hands, whatever it is on the internet).

QUOTE(T R U @ Aug 7, 2006 -> 01:32 AM) Like I said, he has better weapons now in Miami than he did in Minnesota lol, ok.

QUOTE(CWSOX45 @ Aug 7, 2006 -> 09:39 PM) There's twinkletoes... That is an incredibly difficult catch to make, no chance in hell Pods' could catch it.