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QUOTE(mr_genius @ Feb 1, 2006 -> 11:49 PM) 18 Uribe has never heard of the Beatles? thats messed up Yea, I figured it was Ozzie

QUOTE(Jordan4life_2006 @ Feb 1, 2006 -> 09:44 PM) These are some of the stupidest ass questions ever. Who the f*** is gonna know some gay s*** like who's got a degree in economics? I got 12 out of 27 Yea 15/27 here, although I did know that Cora went to Vanderbilt, but for some reason I put Coop.

QUOTE(southsideirish71 @ Feb 1, 2006 -> 10:15 PM) Pods Lefty Uribe Righty Abreu Lefty Konerko Righty Thome Lefty Iguchi righty AJ Lefty Anderson righty Crede lefty Since when does Crede hit lefty?

I think if you play on the team for any amount of time, you get a ring. Might be wrong though.

QUOTE(Dick Allen @ Feb 1, 2006 -> 07:36 PM) He had a lot of control problems last year in AAA. There are a lot of people down on him. After listening to KW this past weekend, I really don't think there is anything to this, but he would have huge balls to make this trade. Team wins its first championship in 88 years and trade your playoff #1 starter and WS MVP both in the same trade. Floyd would be coming into a very stressful situation. For a guy having location problems, that's not very ideal. On the other hand, there are those that think he'll be a star. I know this, but thats not what I'm saying. I'm saying juding a player on 28 innings in the majors is pretty foolish, as I said in my last post

QUOTE(knightni @ Feb 1, 2006 -> 07:30 PM) Seems to me that Floyd has suffered at every level so far. Where are you coming up with this? A 2002: 166 IP, 2.77 ERA 1.10 WHIP A 2003: 138 IP, 3.00 ERA 1.25 WHIP AA 2004: 119 IP, 2.57 ERA 1.17 WHIP ML 2004: 28.1 IP, 3.49 ERA 1.45 WHIP He struggled in AAA last year and 2004, and in the majors last year, but past that he's been solid. Thats far from "every level"

QUOTE(Dick Allen @ Feb 1, 2006 -> 07:20 PM) So if this trade went through, the Sox would still have Anderson and his .176 average, and Floyd and his 10.00 era. I know Floyd has some potential, being the 4th overall pick in his draft and all, but the guy had an ERA over 6.00 in AAA last year, and he walks the world. I hope to God this is just a rumor. Abreu is great, but if this went through, it would more than likely leave KW will no financial flexibility for this season and next, and may be the beginning of the end for Mark Buerhle in Chicago. I'm not saying this is a great trade for the team, but I think its pretty foolish to judge a player on his first few innings pitching in the majors.

QUOTE(knightni @ Feb 1, 2006 -> 07:11 PM) Holy Frijoles! Gotta love that 10 ERA by Floyd and that high contract by Abreu. Oh wait... Gotta love that .176 average for Brian Anderson too.. Oh wait... I forgot about small sample sizes.

QUOTE(Kalapse @ Feb 1, 2006 -> 02:34 PM) Do you remember him in the OF in '04? He was f***ing pathetic, he lucked clueless out there and any ball hit to him was an adventure The white Timo Perez!

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QUOTE(greasywheels121 @ Jan 30, 2006 -> 10:16 PM) I know we have a similar post to it somewhere on SoxTalk, but I can't find it. Here's a link to something similar on a Marlins Board listing sites: http://www.marlinbaseball.com/forums/index...ter&f=2&t=35831 Whoa, good stuff. Thanks

Looks real good to me, nice job

QUOTE(SSH2005 @ Jan 30, 2006 -> 09:49 PM) | 2006 | 2007 | 2008 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Contreras | $8 MM + $1 MM signing bonus | | Dye | $5 MM | $6 MM team option or $1.15 MM buyout | | | | Abreu | $13 MM | $15 MM | $16 MM team option or $2 MM | | | buyout Thats affordable if we buy him out in 2008 rather than pay him the $16 million, but I don't know how much free cash we would have for the $15 million in 2007.

QUOTE(DBAH0 @ Jan 30, 2006 -> 09:31 PM) He was comparing both their performances from the 2nd half of last year, not who'd you take, because I'm sure most people would rather hav Zito for the obvious reasons. Oh, alright. I misunderstood it, sorry

QUOTE(SSH2005 @ Jan 30, 2006 -> 09:12 PM) I guess the real story to this rumor is that some sports radio broadcaster for 610 WIP Philadelphia named Howard Eskin is reporting a rumor about an Abreu + Gavin Floyd for Contreras + Dye trade. Eskin claims "that's what" he's hearing. http://forums.philly.com/n/mb/message.asp?...g=16305.1&ctx=1 I don't know how the salary works out, but that looks like a nice deal. Then again, if Abreu is making a gigantic salary (I really don't know how much it is, I have a feeling its big though), I wouldn't be so in favor of it.

QUOTE(Balta1701 @ Jan 30, 2006 -> 08:26 PM) If I were sitting there, not having watched a ton of Sox games last year...I'd go with the lefty who had won a Cy Young too. That said...If I had to pick the Zito of last year versus the Contreras of the 2nd half last year...there's not a doubt in my mind I pick Jose, even over the righty. I take the 27 year old over the likely 40+ year old anyday of the week, especially when you look at Zito's consistancy.

QUOTE(SoxFan101 @ Jan 29, 2006 -> 09:26 PM) We should just make Felix happy and trade Jose Contreras for Kevin Youkalis Nah, we don't need Youkalis on the White Sox. We are already set at the positions which he plays.

QUOTE(santo=dorf @ Jan 29, 2006 -> 09:10 PM) So your original post makes no sense. It did at the time of posting.

QUOTE(santo=dorf @ Jan 29, 2006 -> 09:04 PM) :banghead I have already pointed it out to you TWICE that Contreras was more than a second half pitcher last season. The same could be said for Joe Crede, but do you consider him one of the best 3B in the league?

QUOTE(SSH2005 @ Jan 29, 2006 -> 08:53 PM) Wow, this guy really knows his stuff. He's got the projected lineup down. With the exception of Anderson and Crede (assuming that story was true), yea. He's got the whole Uribe batting #2 and Gooch batting 6.

QUOTE(santo=dorf @ Jan 29, 2006 -> 07:47 PM) I have no idea what method you use to evaluate players. Can we play the "in between years" game with Contreras too? Er.. I said IF he found a medium between 2004 and 2005, I didn't say he would (although its more likely that he does than Contreras because of age and such). I also said that if he had the same numbers as he did last year, he's good enough to get by as long as the team had other offensive assests. I also said in other posts IF Contreras duplicated what he did in the second half of 2005, I would say he's a top tier pitcher. But you seem to ignore that.

QUOTE(santo=dorf @ Jan 29, 2006 -> 07:30 PM) How would you rank Aaron Rowand amongst MLB outfielders? Defensively, one of the best, if not the best. Offensively, he's good enough to get by if the team he's on has offensive sources elsewhere. If he can put up his 2004 numbers, or anywhere in between his 2004 and 2005 numbers (~.800-.850 OPS), he would be one of the better overall CF's in the league.

QUOTE(DBAH0 @ Jan 29, 2006 -> 07:22 PM) Felix at this stage do you feel that Jon Garland has done in his career then Contreras at this stage, and is he a better pitcher? They are basically at the same point in my book, although I'd take Garland over Contreras because of his age and pitching type (groundball pitcher). Garland is 26 years old, Contreras is likely pushing 40.