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QUOTE(kapkomet @ Mar 13, 2008 -> 01:04 PM) The Texas caucus and primary system has been around for a long while. If you want a history lesson, I can give it to you. Please do. I got the impression it was semi-new. And I currently have the impression its a goofy system.

QUOTE(witesoxfan @ Mar 13, 2008 -> 12:51 PM) I think if you read within the lines, that's also Ozzie giving the company line. Jerry's worked his ass off, and I'm sure Ozzie likes him as a person and perhaps even as a player, but even he understands his limitations. That. Plus, I actually read this as being its not at all certain he'll make the team, let alone start. Further, since I assumed he was on the team anyway, this is actually a walk away from Owens to my eyes.

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QUOTE(greasywheels121 @ Mar 13, 2008 -> 10:53 AM) "List of Demands" by Saul Williams Wow, that was fast - thanks.

OK, random question for this more in the know with modern music... I saw a TV commercial the other day that was quite kewl. It was a Nike ad. If you go to Nike's main website, its the video that pops up. Anyone know the music?

Just to add clarification on Vasquez, apparently he requested the release.

QUOTE(StrangeSox @ Mar 13, 2008 -> 10:18 AM) So what does that mean for the votes? The Democrats sure are doing a great job of disenfranchising voters this year. This isn't "The Democrats" disenfranchising anyone. FL and MI can thank their idiot leaders for trying to break the primary rules for their lack of voting. And Texans can blame that goofy system their own state used down there of a primary AND caucus. I mean seriously, what idiots thought that system was a good idea?

QUOTE(KevinM @ Mar 13, 2008 -> 10:08 AM) I would much rather have Swish come up with Cabrera on base then have Cabrera come up with Swish on base. That's working under the assumption that those two things would happen equally as often. But they won't - Swisher is likely to have a significantly higher OBP. Therefore, in the view of many (myself included), its better to put him leading off.

In the game recap (for yesterday) on the Trib site, there is a blurb mentioning that the Giants had a scout at the game watching Crede. I think its still pretty likely he ends up there, in exchange for Sanchez or the like. But I am starting to think that Uribe and even Anderson are probably staying. One of the relievers though, may get traded.

QUOTE(jackie hayes @ Mar 13, 2008 -> 08:44 AM) I think it has much more to do with the general area. Milwaukee is very close to Chicago, for instance. Indianapolis is further removed from a massive urban area. I lived in Dallas for a while, and I don't think life there is any 'slower' than in Chicago. And Austin is friggin nuts. (Though, college town, so that is always a difference.) I just don't buy this connection of pace and geography. OK. I feel like its there, but its all subjective.

QUOTE(Texsox @ Mar 13, 2008 -> 08:20 AM) Interesting that the northerns were the first to propose violence I recall that one of the major museums in Memphis, if you go to the area describing the Battle of Memphis and the Civil War, the exhibit is actually called The War of Northern Aggression.

QUOTE(jackie hayes @ Mar 13, 2008 -> 08:15 AM) Compared to smaller midwestern cities, or Chicago? I would say the same thing about Indianapolis, for example. Do we put that in the south, now, or just say that smaller cities are different than bigger cities? I think there are two different sliding scales at work here. One is the size of the community, as you point out. The other are regional differences. If you want to compare similarly sized cities... Memphis and Milwaukee. I've spent a lot of time in both. The pace of life in Memphis is a lot slower than Milwaukee. You can also pick two cities in the same region of different size and get that - Chicago is faster than Des Moines, for example. I think both sliding scales have an effect.

QUOTE(jackie hayes @ Mar 13, 2008 -> 08:05 AM) It sounds like you're confusing "rural" and "southern". People are in just as much of a hurry in Atlanta, Dallas, Austin, etc. (Maybe not NO, but that's an outlier in every group.) So do we northerners get those cities? Cuz that'd be awesome if Austin suddenly got closer, I'd love to visit again. I've actually lived in a southern city, Memphis, which has a million people. And yeah, its a waaaaaaaaay slower lifestyle than Chicago, for example. And I noticed it was similar in other cities in the region I visited like Nashville and Little Rock. I have yet to decide if that slower lifestyle is better or worse - probably better. But its not just the rural vs urban thing. There is a real difference in my experience from the south to the midwest in those terms.

QUOTE(jackie hayes @ Mar 13, 2008 -> 07:56 AM) How? Which? I lived in Iowa for 5 years. My opinion is that the culture is an interesting mix of southern and midwestern. I realize the southern part doesn't make sense geographically, but... it was like midwestern friendliness mixed with southern hospitality. They were in less of a hurry than midwesterners though, more like my experiences in the south. But a very strong, midwestern work ethic and attitude. Southern illinois? Just feels like the south to me.

QUOTE(AngelasDaddy0427 @ Mar 13, 2008 -> 07:37 AM) You have no idea how wrong you are. Native Americans are still treated like garbage up there. Not only that but they import other peoples racists and wackos who hang out in the woods and mountains then they broadcast on shortwave radio. Yes, people who live in the west are all short wave radio-listening militia whackjobs. You nailed that one. Do I need the green? And, news flash - American Indians have been stomped on and treated like s*** by this nation since Corte-Real landed. Nothing new there. Racism is everywhere, but that's not the same as saying its in everyone. And no one region has a special claim to it.

QUOTE(Balta1701 @ Mar 12, 2008 -> 08:31 PM) Pretty sure he always does that at the ending. I usually avoid Olbermann - I think he's irritating and tends to mold quotes and facts a bit to fit his agenda. Plus, he can't hold a candle to Mr. Murrow. But I did actually watch his Clinton diatribe last night, and I enjoyed it.

QUOTE(bmags @ Mar 12, 2008 -> 06:49 PM) the plus side to Obama's "50 state strategy" is he can reclaim states like new hampshire, michigan, iowa, missouri, wyoming that have gone republican. They aren't the sexy FLA and OH delegates, but they add up. Wyoming will not be voting for a Dem anytime soon. The mountain west is good territory for the Dems to pick up some states, no doubt - CO, MT, NM, AZ, NV, OR, WA - are all in play. But UT, WY and ID are still deep, deep red.

QUOTE(Texsox @ Mar 12, 2008 -> 11:44 PM) cowboys are southern? So now Colorado, Nebraska, North and South Dakota, Kansas, Iowa, etc. are all Southern states? BTW, Illinois sits further south than Kentucky and Virginia. And at least from the stories I've read, cowboys were among the least racist groups. The cabaleros from Mexico worked side by side with the Anglos. As long as you could get your work done, all was cool. Here is a list of race riots in the US. North vs. South, you make the call. Iowa is culturally similar to a southern state in many ways. And southern Illinois is definitely the south.

QUOTE(southsider2k5 @ Mar 12, 2008 -> 03:01 PM) I am not sure what this has to do with the general election in the first place? We are talking about the Democratic primaries and how those are being portrayed, right? Wait, you think that the media is somehow favoring Obama? Then how do you explain that every article everywhere keeps referring to Clinton's big victories in OH and TX, when in fact she didn't win TX at all!

QUOTE(flavum @ Mar 12, 2008 -> 02:40 PM) http://chicago.whitesox.mlb.com/team/roste...an.jsp?c_id=cws Don't count Wes Whisler as a non-roster invite. That's not the camp list - that is the 40-man roster.

QUOTE(YASNY @ Mar 12, 2008 -> 02:32 PM) Let me start out by saying that I don't mean this in a condescending way in any way. However, if you are in your mid-20's then there is no way you can have as much of a well rounded view of things as I do, with 25 or so years more of living life. Again, not intended to be demeaning or to say I don't respect your point of view. Personally, I don't buy your argument that the north had a huge head start in anything. That's what you were taught in your northern, liberal schools. And, before you jump in to say I don't know what I'm talking about regarding the schools, I spent my childhood in the Chicago burbs and went through the school system. In fact, I didn't realize the indoctrination that was occuring while I was in those schools, but was able to see it in retrospect. Believe me when I say that north did not welcome the former slaves with open arms. They were segregated from the start, and though there wasn't a George Wallace standing on the schoolhouse steps there were plenty of unhappy people in the area when forced busing was started. I know this for a fact because I lived through it. And yes, forced busing was the term that was used most often because that was the general concensus. Now let me commend you for turning the tide on the direction this conversation was headed, because yes it did strike a nerve. Not much else I can because it did. That's something I also lived through in the Chicago area as I am the child of two Kentuckians. I heard it, felt it, experienced it and lived it. I'm not going to take a side on the north/south thing, but I do want to add two things... 1. Rex is right - racism manifests itself differently in the north and south. I've lived in the midwest, and the south, and the west. Its different everywhere. 2. Here is a little story about Chicago suburban schools and southern kids... A close acquaintance of mine was born in North Carolina, at Camp Lejeune (dad was a Marine), and the family moved to the north suburbs of Chicago when he was about 7. Shortly after arriving and starting in the schools (mind you, this was a highly regarded north suburban district), they put him in speech therapy. As the teachers tried to explain to his mother what the speech issues were, she realized what it was - his drawl. The school took his drawl for a speech impediment. Just something to think about.

QUOTE(Texsox @ Mar 12, 2008 -> 02:30 PM) Or just doing right by him. Maybe he can catch on a 25 somewhere. Its possible. The Sox have traded or released guys before who just wanted to go somewhere for a chance for more playing time.

QUOTE(Dick Allen @ Mar 12, 2008 -> 01:51 PM) Owens was scratched today. They say its because tomorrow is an off day and they wanted him to have 2 full days off, but this is looking like a Pods rerun. Yeah, I am higher on Owens than most, but if he's got on-and-off groin or leg injuries, his value is greatly diminshed. Not just in terms of stealing bases, but also beating out hits, and covering CF. Owens' defense in CF last year was, arm aside, actually surprisingly decent. If you take his range down though, with an already weak arm, that turns him into a liability. If Owens continues to have issues, I think its best to shut him down for the spring so he can rehab it, and start the season in Charlotte.

With Haeger and Broadway out, I think that means there is a 99% chance that Masset is in the pen. He's the only pen arm left that can go a few innings. I'm a little surprised they want to just release Vasquez - he seemed to do well last year. I wonder if something came up in camp we haven't heard about, or if he's got some sort of mechanical issue.

QUOTE(Balta1701 @ Mar 12, 2008 -> 12:33 PM) Mass Transit clearly isn't a feasible option for everyone, and I don't think anyone would argue that point. But I think that there are a lot of places (i.e. Los Angeles) where a well developed, well funded Mass transit system would be an excellent option that would cut pollution, cut energy use, and save the nation a boatload of money compared to having half the city spend 5 hours locked in gridlock every day because there aren't enough roads to take care of the cars. Furthermore, I still find it pretty disappointing that the U.S. is so far behind the rest of the developed world on high speed rail lines. There are more than a few routes in the country where a well developed system would be an excellent alternative to air travel (The entire east coast from Boston to D.C., for example, or San Diego to San Francisco/Sacramento going through L.A., or L.A. to Vegas, or maybe St. Louis/Chicago/Detroit) Agreed on the above - Balta just articulated it better than I did. I wasn't trying to say it was great for everyone, just that it could be great for a lot more people than it currently is.