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QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Sep 20, 2012 -> 03:14 PM) KW refuses comment. Might be true. KW refuses comment. Could mean absolutely anything. But I think we all know this is an eventuality, or they'd lose Hahn.

Another double. 12-4 now.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Sep 20, 2012 -> 03:10 PM) This is the tweet. Bob Nightengale ‏@BNightengale Dan Jennings expected to be next #Marlins GM while Rick Hahn becomes #WhiteSox GM, Williams elevated to Sox President. This is the link that goes with it the tweet, but there nothing in there about it. Anyone know anything more??? http://www.usatoday.com/sports/mlb/columni...-pay/57809660/1 Key word "expected".

Bases clearing double, 11-4 A's. Love it.

IBB, bases loaded again.

One run in, 7-4 A's.

Sox may bring up Carlos Sanchez to play 3B or 2B, with Beckham at the other spot. I've been a believer that Gordon turned a corner offensively for a month or two now, and I think the Sox see it too. And Sanchez has some pretty good defensive reports on him for 2B and 3B, not to mention he'd be cheap. Problem is two-fold. First, even though I think he is, it is possible this current Beckham may not be for real in the long run. Second, do you mess with him by putting him back at 3B again? Or do you play a non-power guy (at least at this point) in Sanchez at 3B? Both of those carry risk. But it does allow you financial flexibility for pitching and/or catcher.

QUOTE (flavum @ Sep 20, 2012 -> 02:52 PM) Lead off single. x2

QUOTE (SOXOBAMA @ Sep 20, 2012 -> 09:49 AM) Lets hope the A's & Sox win today. A's up 6-4 going to the 9th. (crosses fingers)

QUOTE (Jenksismyb**** @ Sep 20, 2012 -> 10:08 AM) I never said a couple of months, but it's not going to take 5 years either. The City of Chicago has charter schools in place, so they're not reinventing the wheel. The majority of the hiring can come from existing people in the CPS system, and if not I'm sure there's a bevy of recent grads waiting in the wings. Yes, certification may be difficult, but if you're doing it on a city wide basis why couldn't that be expedited? They're already working/have worked on 75% of this stuff. That's where the system is headed anyway, why not do it now rather than 10 years from now? That's all i'm saying. They are doing it the only way it can be done in a controlled manner that doesn't make the schools infinitely worse - by opening charter schools a few at a time. If you did a complete meltdown on the existing structure and tried to get an entirely charter system up and running, it would take years to get all the kids back into normal schooling. That destroys educations, a lot of them, and I would not be OK with that. QUOTE (bmags @ Sep 20, 2012 -> 11:42 AM) I don't know if it would be that hard, basically the real question is "what if we disbanded the Chicago Teachers Union". It would essentially be the same thing. But I still think the entire process would take at least a year. Not the same - completely different school administration (both in staff as well as rules/procedures/curriculums).

QUOTE (Jenksismyb**** @ Sep 20, 2012 -> 08:43 AM) Not saying it would be easy. But I don't see why it would be impossible either. You have to interview, hire and train about 50,000 people. And no, they won't all be from the public schools that have jobs now. That process alone will take months upon months or more. You have to build and/or fix facilities - maybe only a few, or a lot, depending on what public facilities you can operate in. You have to go through long certification processes with the state and feds, like all schools do. You have to have companies with enough staff to handle managing the charters and administrations of these schools, which right now they don't have, and it may take a long time to get. You have to set up school boards, and have public review periods for many charter school elements, including their curriculum. You will have to fight the unions legally, and that will be a long, drawn out, and expensive mess. You have to set up the financial arrangements for funding, contracts, and all that other fun legal crap, which again, seems easy on the surface, but in reality ends up taking forever while the lawyers tear it apart. You have to make wholesale changes in the CPS administration, and take on large charges to get out from under current obligations. You have to have the laws changed, at the state level and in city ordinances, which means getting the backing of the state legislature (both chambers), the governor, the city council and the mayor (there are rules in place about public education and city-provided schools that have huge monetary impacts, and they need to change if you do this). The list goes on, but seriously... tell me with a straight face you think that could be done in a couple months.

QUOTE (Jenksismyb**** @ Sep 19, 2012 -> 04:56 PM) Why not? There are already model schools out there, borrow their charters. Just say "hey this CPS school is not a charter school." Boom. Done. I think you are being incredibly unrealistic. Seriously, think for just a second about what goes into opening a new school - just one, of any kind, in CPS. Now imagine doing it for a few hundred of them, all in, what, a summer? Come on, that's insane and has zero chance of being possible. Do I even have to list all the things you have to do for each school to get it up and running?

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Sep 20, 2012 -> 08:02 AM) Anyone know what for? Keenyn Walker ‏@Keenyn_Walker How do u say scared s**tless in every language?! Goin under the knife today! Wish me luck people! Well that doesn't sound good.

QUOTE (danman31 @ Sep 19, 2012 -> 09:05 PM) Thompson had an ERA of 7.71 in the first half and then 0.55 in the second half with a 44:6 K:BB ratio. That sounds like something clicking to me. Yeah, I agree, but... what was it, I wonder?

Saturday 9/29 game vs TB was 6:10pm, now it is 3:05pm, to be Fox's national game. Just in case you have tickets.

QUOTE (LittleHurt05 @ Sep 19, 2012 -> 02:25 PM) Bourgeois cf Escobar ss Gordon lf Bulter dh Perez c Moose 3b Frenchy rf Hosmer 1b Giovatella 2b Chen p Is that former Sox farmhand Jason Bourgeois?

QUOTE (Jenksismyb**** @ Sep 19, 2012 -> 01:42 PM) Anyone else think that given the 1 billion dollar deficit in the CPS budget that Rahm would just close the entire system and start up charter schools instead? Rehire the same teachers sans union, and then have complete control over everything. Probably would be best long term for the City. Completely impractical. You really think you can start up a few hundred charter schools in any short period of time? Who will run them? This would take years, and you'd have utter pandemonium in the meantime. They are instead slowly sliding that way, which is really the only way to do it. It also allows you to control things better, seeing what works and doesn't as you build, etc. QUOTE (StrangeSox @ Sep 19, 2012 -> 02:56 PM) Semi-privatized authoritarian regime headed by Rahm Emmanuel would be the worst for everyone regardless of location or circumstance. Not sure I agree with that. Frankly, the CPS just hasn't done a great job with the resources they have. And yes, I am aware of and agree with the thought that in SOME areas, they do not have enough resources.

QUOTE (Harry Chappas @ Sep 19, 2012 -> 12:53 PM) I do not think you lose your seats for 2013 if yo udo nto buy playoff but i could be wrong. Anyway I just went back in and 3 lower deck reserved seats section 109. $840, covers next year's seven game plan already. You are wrong. In fact, not only do all the paperwork we got scream that, when you purchase the tickets online (pre-sale, or just the regular seats post-season bill), you have to seperately check a box warning you that this is the case.

QUOTE (Harry Chappas @ Sep 19, 2012 -> 12:17 PM) Your money is fully refunded back to your credit card so you are not out of pocket. The Sox are covering the basis to allow everyone to have the tickets they need when they need them. Sort of. For season ticket holders, the money goes to the 2013 deposit for that year's plan. So they do indeed get a long float on that money from their season ticket holders, both for their regular seats/tickets, and all these pre-sales. And if you don't buy the post-season seats, in advance, you lose your slot for 2013 and would have to start all over in terms of seniority and seat location.

QUOTE (Y2HH @ Sep 19, 2012 -> 11:06 AM) I think the point is, and the point I was trying to make, that while these other things would be nice...it wasn't their primary goal. IMO, it was subterfuge at it's best...or worst, depending on your view of this. I don't think it was a red herring or anything like it - I think they wanted all those things. QUOTE (bmags @ Sep 19, 2012 -> 11:48 AM) I'm responding to all of those "YOU NEED TO EDUCATE YOURSELF" pictures that were going around, that made it seem like the teachers were standing up to the city over condiitons in the classroom. What were they most willing to concede on? Classroom conditions. It says a lot. Well sure, the people saying it wasn't about money were being false. Money was a big part of it. But I know enough teachers to know that it wasn't all of it. This picture some people are painting that all these teachers just wanted more money is as false as the idea that money wasn't a real concern. People don't teach to make boatloads of cash. Basically, I was responding to this type of thing... QUOTE (mr_genius @ Sep 19, 2012 -> 11:43 AM) It was all about money and entitlements. These teachers don't care about kids learning. Which, as I said, is just as false as saying it wasn't about money.

QUOTE (bmags @ Sep 19, 2012 -> 10:05 AM) NPR reported this morning that those conditions were not met. And considering the strike is over, I think it's fair to say that the teachers in front of the TVs who said they were striking because of class conditions, were really just saying that because they knew it was their most sympathetic point. But clearly they were striking for their pay packages and evaluations. That was a big part of it of course, yes. I don't think anyone has said otherwise. But looking at the facts of all the things they were contesting, I think it is clear they wanted more than just that. People would love it to be simple, though.

QUOTE (Buehrle>Wood @ Sep 18, 2012 -> 06:30 PM) 23.1 IP and 0 ER against us. f***ing Christ. And that streak seems destined to correct itself and come back to the mean. All teams have some pitchers they struggle against, but that is insanely good for a generally mediocre pitcher.

QUOTE (Harry Chappas @ Sep 19, 2012 -> 10:45 AM) Today is strips. You buy one seat to every wildcard and division game. These are not individual game seats. QUOTE (HickoryHuskers @ Sep 19, 2012 -> 10:50 AM) So the Sox are making you buy tickets to four games even though it's impossible to host both a WC game and 3 DS games? Sounds about right. Yup. Today is pre-sales for strips of all four, up to 8 strips. Friday is the individual game tickets, first a pre-sale, then the public sale at noon.

QUOTE (bmags @ Sep 19, 2012 -> 09:30 AM) I think there are a lot of good things in here for teacher evaluation, and chicago will continue it's climb in educating it's students. But notice how the strike ended despite there still being overcrowded classrooms and other outcomes "for the kids". Those were red herrings. The CTU did specifically ask for class size limits, and CPS was saying they could not do that. I am not sure who won out there, have you read the entire contract?

QUOTE (Jenksismyb**** @ Sep 19, 2012 -> 09:28 AM) The same principle applies to taxation. We can tax the rich at 100% and still not fix the underlying problems with our system. I mean, i'm all about taxing the rich a little more, especially in lieu of taxing the middle class. But there's a sense that rich people owe their good fortune to the rest of society, and that's a bunch of bologna. As SS2k5 pointed out, we've gone how many decades now throwing money at problems and it rarely, if ever, works. The hand just stays open asking for more. Paying teachers more and hiring more teachers in a s***ty school system with kids that don't care about school isn't going to magically transform those kids into Rhode Scholars. We need to blow the system up and start over. Whoa, hey now, I wasn't even saying I agreed with SS. Just trying to clarify what I thought was a misunderstanding. Don't go making assumptions aboout how I feel about this. I am pretty sure what he's getting at is that some of that sheltered money generates income and financial gain that is taxed at a much lower rate than what some other, less well off people are taxed. At least that is how I took it.