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QUOTE (StrangeSox @ Feb 10, 2016 -> 08:40 AM) Labor force participation and the various unemployment stats (U-3 is the one typically reported) compiled by the BLS all have their uses, but hacks love to conflate them when convenient. Realistically U6 is the most true read of unemployment in this country. Even I wouldn't go past that number.

QUOTE (GreenSox @ Feb 10, 2016 -> 08:30 AM) 2015 9th 2014 23 2013 16 2012 12 Then 2011 2 2010 1 2 pitchers in their mid 20s, Danks and Floyd, basically at their peak these 2 years. those 2010-11 teams had good starting staffs. Anyway, regarding EJ, check out Floyd's cup of coffee numbers with the Phillies. They were terrible in 3 tries. As for Jacob Turner, he was horrible by any measure in 2013 and 14 (pitched 9 minor league innings in 2015). his GB % is 47% and it's not like he's striking out a lot of guys. Charlotte doesn't seem the answer for EJ. Which tells me it comes down to scouting, not numbers.

QUOTE (LittleHurt05 @ Feb 10, 2016 -> 08:03 AM) Q was so pissed about the called back goal, he pulled a Cam Newton in the post game presser. He should be upset about it, but the fact is you don't win many NHL games scoring only one goal...

QUOTE (Al Lopez's Ghost @ Feb 9, 2016 -> 08:43 PM) Could be analogous to the Daniel Hudson scenario. If it were my money, I would put it closer to the Clayton Richard scenario.

QUOTE (TheFutureIsNear @ Feb 9, 2016 -> 07:50 PM) Johnson was pretty damn good in his 1st AAA appearance back in 2013... And harping on peripherals on a 35 inning sample size in September is grasping for straws at best. Not like he's had bad periphs in the minors at any point minus 2014. How dare he not come up and dominate right away. And the velocity was back up over 91 last year, you're creating problems with the guy at this point. He had 1 fluke bad year. Why? Who knows. He's not the 1st nor the last pitcher it will happen to. I'm not saying EJ is going to be great (solid 4th starter), and the Latos deal for $3M certainly can't be called bad. I'm just confused as to why they seem to want to replace a 26 year old with a good track record before he fails. Hopefully both EJ and Latos pitch well and we can be talking about Danks DFA'd. A team is going to know a lot more than his stats when it comes to a pitcher that has been in their system as long as Johnson has. They know something more than just his numbers.

QUOTE (RockRaines @ Feb 9, 2016 -> 08:12 PM) Lol the Hawks consistently get screwed on reviews. The key seems to be to have a defenseman ram the offensive player into the goalie so they will disallow the goal.

QUOTE (Dunt @ Feb 9, 2016 -> 05:01 PM) Didn't realize his numbers were that good in the 2nd half, K/BB took a decent dip, but otherwise it looks good. Don't see Johnson making this team then. The 6 run outing where he took one for the team made his season long numbers look a lot worse than the actually were.

MLB ‏@MLB 38m38 minutes ago Cuban phenom “Lazarito” says he plans to make a decision by Wednesday. Who's in the running? http://atmlb.com/1nVN9is

Chris Cotillo ‏@ChrisCotillo 32m32 minutes ago Source: Ishikawa gets $900K if in majors with White Sox. Same deal he had agreed to with Seattle.` Ishikawa was recently examined by an orthopedic specialist and a back specialist and cleared for full baseball activities, per source.

FutureSox.com ‏@FutureSox 56m56 minutes ago Now looks like Ishikawa, Davidson, Delmonico, Hayes will mix for corner INF playing time in AAA. Hard to think they'll all be there in April

It really does move like a combination splitter/cutter. It backs up towards righties like a cutter, and drops off like a splitter.

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Feb 9, 2016 -> 04:32 PM) Turner over Johnson? Based on...? I have been saying all winter that I think for the White Sox, Turner>Johnson.

QUOTE (Dunt @ Feb 9, 2016 -> 04:23 PM) Interested to hear how people would stack up the pitching staff if the season started today. Obviously things could happen in the meantime, but think I would run out the following: SP Sale SP Quintana SP Rodon SP Latos SP Johnson CL Robertson SU Jones SU Duke RP Albers RP Putnam RP Petricka RP Danks I think there is zero question that if Johnson isn't in the major league rotation, he is in Charlotte. That being said, the Sox have enough bullpen depth they won't make Danks a reliever. They do know Danks will give them 200 innings, and a mediocre time doing it. If Danks is out, he is out on the street, not in the bullpen. I would rate their depth as Sale Quintana Rodon Danks Latos Turner Johnson Beck Carroll Aumont With Fulmer potentially crashing the party as the season gets later and later. In April Fulmer is no where on that list. By say August, he might be the next guy in line.

QUOTE (CrimsonWeltall @ Feb 9, 2016 -> 04:21 PM) He can't tack back to the middle on immigration. That would be hailed as the biggest flip-flop in history and no one would believe it. The two leaders for the party nomination lead the world on flip-flops.

QUOTE (Brian @ Feb 9, 2016 -> 03:16 PM) I'm traumatized by Chipotle. Fear that place. When I interned downtown years ago, they'd make me go in and get a bunch of lunch orders there and it was so crowded and hectic. I don't get what is so great about Chipotle. It isn't that good. There are so many dive type places I would rather go to that just blow it away. Give me a Taco Burrito King for starters.

QUOTE (soxfan2014 @ Feb 9, 2016 -> 04:09 PM) Who else would you expect them to add starting wise? There are still OFs out there on the open market, such as Fowler and Jackson. A move with the Dodgers makes some sense as well.

I think this is Charlotte depth for sure.

QUOTE (SoCalSox @ Feb 9, 2016 -> 04:07 PM) Is anyone else a little worried that the Sox are done making impact moves? I'm starting to think this may have been it in terms of starters. The fact they made another addition tells me that they are still trying to fill holes.

QUOTE (Iwritecode @ Feb 9, 2016 -> 02:19 PM) It's certainly a possibility. But I think the biggest problem with SportsVision is that people simply weren't used to paying for any TV channels. These days there are multiple ways to pay to see an MLB game broadcast and many don't think twice about it. With social media there are more ways than ever to follow a baseball game in real time without needing to pay for it. In fact the trend has long been towards chord cutting.

QUOTE (GreenSox @ Feb 9, 2016 -> 03:58 PM) Yep. He sure was. And this is an org. that gave Noesi a full year (over 2 seasons). Noesi, of course, was Cooper's guy. As for peripherals, Johnson's strikeout total on the Sox last year was pretty good. If they want to trade him, then trade him...but it would be nice to do so for a similarly situated young hitter. His walk rates are still pretty high for a guy who is under a K/IP pace. His homer rate was also really scary for pitching your home games at USCF. And bottom line, the Sox have had years to evaluate Erik Johnson, both in the majors, and in the minors. If they don't think he can cut it, I am going to trust them. I give the White Sox the benefit of the doubt when it comes to pitching.

On the surface, I think his move has been in the works. With all of the bounceback candidates that are sitting on the sidelines right now, and the Sox rotation lacking proven depth past the #4 spot, it made sense for the Sox to bring in a lottery ticket. Earlier this off-season I guessed it would be Gavin Floyd. Turns out they got a guy who has is only one full season removed from some really damned good numbers, but an injury that seems to have held him back again in 2015. If I had to guess, conditioning will be key for Latos this year. He has to come to camp healthy to really prove himself.

QUOTE (GreenSox @ Feb 9, 2016 -> 03:37 PM) And, then of course, a huge bounce back season. But I suspect that the bold is what bothers the insular Sox. Or it could be his terrible peripherals in his short time here.

QUOTE (WhiteSoxLifer @ Feb 9, 2016 -> 03:22 PM) Just to point out roster is now full. QUOTE (SoCalSox @ Feb 9, 2016 -> 03:24 PM) Curious if this actually means anything or not. Probably not. There is plenty of chaff that could still be cut.

QUOTE (CanOfCorn @ Feb 9, 2016 -> 03:19 PM) Maybe he's matured enough to know this is a Prove It contract and is willing to listen and learn. If he can put it all together, with his past, he could get a hefty contract next year. If his best offer was 1 year and 3 million dollars, he knows this is his last big shot. If he screws this up, his next offers will be minor league deals. It is now or never for Latos.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Feb 9, 2016 -> 03:15 PM) if they "promised" him that already then they really don't have much confidence in Johnson at all. It wouldn't be the first time that writing was on the wall. For all of the starting pitchers they used last year, he was sure in Charlotte an awful long time.