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QUOTE (Quinarvy @ Jan 20, 2016 -> 03:34 PM) How about this: GarPax have drafted an MVP, a ROY (and a runner up), a DPOY, a sixth man of the year (and a runner up), four All-Stars, multiple All-NBA defensive players, and signed an All-NBA 1st Team center. Other than the Spurs, you'd be hard-pressed to find a better drafting team with the only blunders being Teague over Draymond and Snell. They've cleared space and tried to sign big tier free agents multiple times. But the Heatles happened and Melo decided money was better than winning. You can nitpick misses with any team. The better the team, the harder it is to draft because you are picking from a worse pool of players. You can go back and look at even the Spurs and pick out plenty of busts. But when you draft low each year, that burden is much harder.

QUOTE (ozzfest @ Jan 20, 2016 -> 03:34 PM) They don't give a S*** about public appearance? Gar Forman ran down from his suite, and publicly berated Jeff Van Gundy during a Bulls game because he was making fun of management. http://nypost.com/2015/02/27/why-you-wont-...-bulls-anymore/ That is exactly what I said.

QUOTE (Boogua @ Jan 20, 2016 -> 03:33 PM) Yeah, considering draft position guys like Gibson, Asik, and (while still in the air) Mirotic were very, very good picks. Once you include draft position into the equation, the Bulls are miracle workers in the draft and development department. They have out done teams drafting in the lottery on a consistent basis.

QUOTE (ozzfest @ Jan 20, 2016 -> 03:26 PM) Ryan Pace knows what he is doing. He's done a good job changing the roster and culture. Hired a good coach as well. Bears are on the up and up. And the Bulls ARE a playoff team. The Bears won 6 games last year.

QUOTE (Jordan4life @ Jan 20, 2016 -> 02:16 PM) Classic oxymoron definition. The east f***ing sucks. And even assuming Rose never gets hurt, they lose to the Heat in '12, '13 and '14 and lose to the Cavs last year as well. It does not mean what you think it means.

QUOTE (nitetrain8601 @ Jan 20, 2016 -> 12:12 PM) Honestly, this isn't a discussion that will change anyone's minds. People believe what they believe. I guess it depends on what side of the fence you are on. As a fan, would you rather make the playoffs every year with no realistic shot at competing for a championship or would you rather compete for championships and actually make it to the Finals. Paxson is risk adverse. PS, I said trade Noah for Love. I also said trade Noah for Melo. Bulls refused to add him in either deal which is where negotiations stopped. Funny people get criticized for video game trades, but those are the only ones the Bulls attempt and fail miserably at. Fact is: Bulls suck at getting FAs Bulls suck at making trades Bulls suck at evaluating their medical staff Bulls are OK at drafting. And honestly, without Butler, they're mediocre at it Bulls are horrid with coaching relationships. But somehow that makes them a tip line front office. I guess as long the playoff tickets are available for a round, its all good. I measure my FOs in championships and appearances. Not how many times they got exposed in the playoffs for a weak roster makeup in a very weak conference. OK at drafting? You can't seriously look at this team, and call them OK. They have drafted and developed MULTIPLE All-stars in the sport that is the single hardest sport to get an all-star in. Even past Rose, you are neglecting Deng, Noah, and Butler. The Bulls aren't horrible at trades, they just don't make many trades. They are scared. Those are two different things. The Bulls suck at getting Grade A free agents, but have done amazing things at plucking players who are either no names, or fallen out of favor for some reason, and turning them into useful parts. The front office definitely doesn't give a s*** about public appearance, and I do get the feeling that they think coaching is not important.

QUOTE (ozzfest @ Jan 20, 2016 -> 11:39 AM) Front office rankings in Chicago (in terms of which teams have the best chance to win it all). Which is how a front office should be judged. 1) Blackhawks 2) Cubs 3) Bears 4) White Sox 5) Bulls Past the obvious #1 and #2, this is the worst possible listing. Hawks Cubs Bulls White Sox Bears

QUOTE (OmarComing25 @ Jan 20, 2016 -> 02:58 PM) Thanks for the great work as usual. If you had to only pick one, which Sox prospect do you think increases his stock the most in 2016? I'd bet on one of the Latin American kids breaking out. This is the year.

QUOTE (raBBit @ Jan 20, 2016 -> 02:22 PM) I actually got an ear in on some of the stuff Coop says when he's not at USCF and I wouldn't be surprised if these reports are true. I have no doubt he would say it if he thought he was off the record. I do have doubts as to it really being him, and/or it really happening. That stuff is so incredibly easy to fake.

QUOTE (captain54 @ Jan 20, 2016 -> 01:43 PM) You're wrong. It's not originally from WSI. I'm totally serious Yeah, if it is coming from the facebook page I think it is, they are professional spammers and have added everyone in site to their page. They would literally do anything for a few hits.

QUOTE (Eminor3rd @ Jan 20, 2016 -> 01:47 PM) That's the thing -- why would anyone assume that DON COOPER represents the thoughts of the front office? Don Cooper is the meatballiest dude I've ever seen. Of course he wouldn't be business savvy. Why do I care if he responds like a meatball? I wouldn't expect anything less. I just need him to work on pitching mechanics. The rest is whatever. Don Cooper ranks only second to Ozzie in terms of White Sox meatballs.

QUOTE (ChiSoxFanMike @ Jan 20, 2016 -> 02:48 PM) RABBIT IS ONLINE RIGHT NOW. PLEASE GIVE US GOOD NEWS!!! I met a girl who sang the blues and I asked her for some happy news, but she just smiled and turned away.

QUOTE (Eminor3rd @ Jan 20, 2016 -> 02:34 PM) Why does everyone assume that all people from Cuba are friends? Balta and I are from American, and we are friends

QUOTE (Kevtrem @ Jan 20, 2016 -> 12:09 PM) If we let this thread get to 300 before Yo signs, I would be ashamed and embarrassed for us all. Evidently you are new to SoxTALK. Its what we do.

QUOTE (Heads22 @ Jan 20, 2016 -> 11:48 AM) many thanks, You are the real MVP.

QUOTE (southside hitman @ Jan 20, 2016 -> 10:18 AM) Agreed. But scary to think how well he preformed in Birmingham while working on those things. His OBP, for example, jumped from .337 in 64 games before the All-Star break to .363 the rest of the season. That is the type of improvement that is very encouraging to see. But those are the kinds of things that get exploited at the major league level, while guys with talent can hit over in the minors.

QUOTE (southside hitman @ Jan 20, 2016 -> 09:34 AM) Anderson is far from a finished product, but he did just hit .312/.350/.429 in AA. I would actually put him and Fulmer's Major League ETA's the same, mid-season/September of 2016. So while Fulmer might be the safer prospect because he has the higher floor, I think Anderson's ceiling just barely puts him ahead in terms of rankings. Anderson still has a large strike out rate to overcome, as well as his defense (while it sounds much improved, he still has work to do).

QUOTE (SoxPride18 @ Jan 20, 2016 -> 09:07 AM) Great list. Minor complaints are that I think Robinson Leyer and Nick Delmonico should be in the top 30. Jim Callis ‏@jimcallisMLB 6m6 minutes ago I still would argue Fulmer > Anderson. @whitesox I'll put this here for argument sake. I tend to agree because I think Fulmer's ceiling is higher than Anderson's. With the Sox history of developing pitching versus hitting, and the distance that Anderson has between his current ability and his potential versus where Fulmer is at, I would put Fulmer first on my list too, but it wouldn't be by much.

QUOTE (AustinIllini @ Jan 19, 2016 -> 09:44 PM) Yes, but I would expect a professional hockey announcer to pronounce it correctly. I'm somewhat convinced it is further complicated by the existence of Marko Dano. Over the last 12 games, Crawford is your MVP. Really over the last couple of months he has been one of the best goalies in all of hockey.

QUOTE (Thad Bosley @ Jan 20, 2016 -> 07:11 AM) That's their job, right? Each and every year, they should be investing in the team to try and continually improve it. And let's be clear about last year's so-called investment: it only brought the total team payroll to a mere $2M and $5M more than that of the small market Royals and Twins, respectively. Middle of the pack at best. So let's not ever make the mistake of describing last year's investment as some sort of effort to go above and beyond. As another poster has pointed out, that would be accomplished by going in the red for a year or two to try and lift this team up. To date, that hasn't happened. Because you know the fans are sitting at home saying, "well they went into debt this time"... Nope, they are busy ignoring Frazier and Lawrie, and throwing a temper tantrum about Cespedes and Upton.

QUOTE (Chicago White Sox @ Jan 19, 2016 -> 09:00 PM) I know you're the "blame the customer" guy, but your point on ratings is exactly why the Sox need to invest in the team and go into the red if needed. Our current TV deal expires in 2019 and if ratings to continue to suck, we're going to get a s***ty long-term TV deal. Therefore, there is every incentive in the world for Reinsdorf to spend some money and build some excitement for this team. The potential payoff in the long-run would be tenfold the likely short-term costs. They "invested in the team" last year. How'd that work out?

QUOTE (Lip Man 1 @ Jan 19, 2016 -> 09:34 PM) For what it's worth this was posted on another Sox site: "Well, I can say I saw the conversation. It is on another White Sox fan group on Facebook. Not going to go into a ton of details, but PM me if you want a screen shot. Not a huge fan of the group, I got put in it, never asked to join, and it is mostly either fans who are so negative they make me seem like the Good Humor Man, or guys who really like the MEME app on their phone. I don't know if I buy it's Cooper or not, but the conversation itself happened." Mark lol, I bet I even know what page that is. Knowing that, I have even less faith that it actually happened.

QUOTE (LittleHurt05 @ Jan 19, 2016 -> 09:35 PM) So if Danault and Teuvo get comfortable on the 3rd line together, then Kruger comes back and anchors the 4th line, this team suddenly looks much deeper, and the depth has always been their strongest suit with winning the Cup in June. Of course, that depends on Shaw staying successful with 19 & 81, which is not gonna happen. Really it was a matter of getting guys to grow, and to get used to each other, in order to get to where they wanted to be. They gave Kane a real second line center, and look what happens.

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The Hawks have scored first in 34 of 46 games this year.