Everything posted by southsider2k5
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Cespedes Re-signs with the Mets
QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Jan 18, 2016 -> 10:30 PM) It is amazing how worthwhile a prospect Micah has become since he was gone Especially when you consider how many people were calling for the Sox to trade Johnson. Not only did they trade him, but they got a 35 homer 3B for him.
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Cespedes Re-signs with the Mets
QUOTE (Jose Abreu @ Jan 18, 2016 -> 10:00 PM) To be fair, I am under the impression that RV is on a very short leash, and may be fired before the ASB if we are struggling. Look no further than the bench coach we just hired.
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Cespedes Re-signs with the Mets
QUOTE (South Sider @ Jan 18, 2016 -> 09:51 PM) Get a clue dude. Thad Bosley's post is an incredibly rational post, and it makes a ton of sense. Chiding him for a well thought out post like that is classless, especially from someone like yourself, a board administrator who should be an example-setter. The writing is on the wall if the Sox refuse to pony up for Cespedes' demands. In this market, whether there are bidders or not, he deserves a contract in the Gordon-Upton range. If the Sox don't pay the price and sign Cespedes, you will see a lot of already complacent Sox fans questioning ownership's commitment to winning even further. No Sox fan should be happy trotting out Garcia, Fowler or Jackson after what our main divisional rivals have done to improve! The Tigers already had a good offense, and they signed Upton. The Royals won the World Series. We have a crappy offense with some promising additions, but there is still no guarantee that this offense won't have huge issues with run production. I understand signing Cespedes does not guarantee a division title or wild card, but mark my words, if the Sox don't sign Cespedes, they will not win either. It is the same bitter and angry posts we always see (5 in 55 sound familiar?).
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Cespedes Re-signs with the Mets
QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Jan 18, 2016 -> 09:47 PM) Detroit has a $200 million oayroll. Jerry Reinsdorf is the worst, And the fan base to support it, that being the key. Chicago trails the Tigers in every single key financial metric. You want to know why the Tigers can spend? Start there.
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Cespedes Re-signs with the Mets
QUOTE (Thad Bosley @ Jan 18, 2016 -> 09:40 PM) We know winning means little to you, so no reason to weigh in. You hold on to the past like an ex-wife. This is right up your alley.
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Cespedes Re-signs with the Mets
QUOTE (Thad Bosley @ Jan 18, 2016 -> 09:32 PM) So now the Sox HAVE to sign Cespedes. The optics otherwise will be a public relations disaster for this team, and an abject organizational embarrassment. No team during the past five, six weeks has been tied into being "in" on not one, not two, but all three of the so-called "top tier" free agent outfielders more so than the White Sox. We were "interested" in Gordon. We were "in" on Upton. We were "considering" Cespedes. Then the leak. The leak that we were only interested in making an offer to any of the three of them for "three years or LESS". Enter the small market intra-divisional Royals, who move in and lock up Gordon on a four year contract. Tonight, another AL Central rival, the Tigers, sign Upton to a six year deal. And this on the heals of our intra-city rival Cubs signing Heyward to an eight year contract. Welcome to market economics! If another team swoops in now and snags Cespedes on something resembling more what the market is bearing vs. this three year offer business the Sox are operating under, then it will be a colossal failure of Hahn, Williams, and Reinsdorf. It will call into question their credibility when they claim over and over and over again their strong desire to return to the postseason as quickly as possible, and thereby maximize the window of opportunity with the current core. I trust they realize this, and will soon be announcing the signing of Yoenis Cespedes to be our left fielder and clean-up hitter for the foreseeable future. If not, well, it'll be quite the black eye on this management team's reputation, and will seriously call into question the capabilities of the team's ownership and management. I've seen less drama on Jerry Springer.
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Cespedes Re-signs with the Mets
QUOTE (ChiSoxFanMike @ Jan 18, 2016 -> 04:06 PM) The constant pestering probably means nothing to Jerry/KW/Hahn, but it's worth a shot. It is the equivalent of yelling at a cashier at Wal_mart because you are pissed at the Walton family.
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Cespedes Re-signs with the Mets
QUOTE (ChiSoxFanMike @ Jan 18, 2016 -> 01:44 PM) Someone actually created this account on Twitter lol That page is a cesspool of meatball fandom.
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Cespedes Re-signs with the Mets
QUOTE (Thad Bosley @ Jan 18, 2016 -> 12:22 PM) 27th in attendance and 30th in TV ratings called... Which is exactly why the Sox aren't rushing to spend a lot in long term payroll obligations.
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Cespedes Re-signs with the Mets
QUOTE (WhiteSoxLifer @ Jan 18, 2016 -> 09:54 AM) #whitesox free agent spending last offseason: $132 million. FA spending this offseason: $6.5 million, and still holding. https://twitter.com/CST_soxvan/status/689111875548778497 Still same payroll as last year and supposedly had money to offer big contracts to either shark or tanaka. So where's that money at They spent $132 million over something like 15-20 seasons worth of signings on the free agent market, starting with a payroll of something like $75 or 80 million to get them up to the what they finished the off season at. This year they started the off-season something like 35 or 40 million dollars above where they started last year. That tweet it taking two completely different things and trying to equate them.
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'16 Sox will be much improved without other moves
Scott Merkin @scottmerkin 28m28 minutes ago Merkin: Even without further moves, '16 White Sox should be decidedly improved: http://atmlb.com/1SsDc8Q via @mlb
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mlb network top cf right now
QUOTE (raBBit @ Jan 18, 2016 -> 12:09 PM) Do you have a source that says it's the first time he has ever been coached? Its funny because a guy like Saladino seems like he has been coached just fine...
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2015-2016 NBA Thread
And I am totally bummed about Noah. Obviously I respect Jordan more than anything, but I think Jo is my all time favorite Bull.
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The Bulls biggest problem: John Paxson and Gar Forman
QUOTE (Quinarvy @ Jan 18, 2016 -> 03:08 AM) I hope you know that the long-standing rumor is Kobe wouldn't allow any deal that send Deng to Los Angeles. That is the same thing I have always understood too. Kobe wanted a deal done that didn't weaken the Bulls enough to where he couldn't win there.
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2015-16 NHL thread
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The Bulls biggest problem: John Paxson and Gar Forman
QUOTE (ozzfest @ Jan 17, 2016 -> 11:56 AM) Pau Gasol was a big FA signing? Maybe for the pathetic Bulls... Gasol is 35 years old. How does Gasol help this team get to a championship? If an executive can't lure difference making players to a team, then that executive sucks. Also, aside from Jimmy Butler, who has GarPax drafted that impresses you so much? And don't say Taj Gibson. Gibson is replacement level talent. I bet you are a big McDermott fan, and you think Snell is good, and you think that Portis is the next KG. This is the problem with the Bulls. Bulls fans buy into the GarPax BS. I bet you didn't want them to trade Luol Deng for Kobe Bryant. I bet you didn't want the Bulls to trade Asik a couple years back as well. What in the actual f*** are you talking about? There is a whole lot of feeding words that have never been said, and nothing at all in substance. I could have heard this on a sports talk show call in.
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Cespedes Re-signs with the Mets
QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jan 17, 2016 -> 01:15 PM) Remember, a "significantly backloaded deal" makes an opt-out cost the guy money. The more you backload a deal, the less value an opt-out has. It is how the Marlins have gotten two long term deals done in the last six months or so.
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The Bulls biggest problem: John Paxson and Gar Forman
QUOTE (ozzfest @ Jan 16, 2016 -> 06:29 PM) If your biggest FA signings have been Ben Wallace and Carlos Boozer, you suck at your job. You just invalidated everything you posted in this thread by pretending the Bulls didn't sign Pau Gasol.
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The Bulls biggest problem: John Paxson and Gar Forman
QUOTE (ozzfest @ Jan 16, 2016 -> 06:04 PM) There is very little pressure from the local media on Garpax. Jerry Angelo and Jim Hendry were roasted by the sun times, tribune, 670 and 1000. Anything you read written by Sam Smith, KC Johnson, Nick Friedell... Anything you hear from Dan Bernstein...They all say "pax tries his best". And there is this false narrative that they drafted well. What about Snell, Teague over draymond, Mirotic, McDermott, and trading away Lamarcus aldridge? What about firing Ron Adams? What about assaulting Vinny Del Negro? What about not wanting to trade for Kobe Bryant because they though Luol Deng was too valuable? You live in a weird world, because I have seen all of those things talked about.
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**2016 Films Thread**
QUOTE (KyYlE23 @ Jan 17, 2016 -> 09:33 AM) It is. The short story doesnt really have a solid ending, its more like they just keep driving on through the mist, not knowing what is gonna happen. Stephen King movie adaptations are so weird. Some of them like the Green Mile, Shawshank, Misery are just awesome. Some of them like sleepwalkers, pet sematary, lawnmower man are just not good at all. Really looking forward to 11.22.63. That was his best book in forever.
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2015-16 NHL thread
True or False. As of today, Patrick Kane is the NHL MVP.
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2015 Recruiting thread
QUOTE (Brian @ Jan 17, 2016 -> 06:45 AM) I take it that was an MLK tourney game? If not, Why is Curie going Indiana? And if it is, great representation by Curie. Sarcasm We added a home and home with them last year. We played at Curie last year.
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2015 Recruiting thread
QUOTE (Brian @ Jan 16, 2016 -> 10:06 PM) Every year I watch him throw temper tantrums. He's one of the reasons Cliff Alexander flopped. Never coached him to do anything but dunk. If I was a player and he did this, is be pissed. Who were they playing? My hometown HS, Michigan City HS (IN)
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2015 Recruiting thread
QUOTE (Brian @ Jan 16, 2016 -> 09:56 PM) Curie Coach, Michael Oliver, has always been a clown. Gets good talent but does nothing with it. It was bad. Clown is a good way to describe it. Hopefully this gets him fired.
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2015 Recruiting thread
Just was at a game where Chicago Curie's basketball coach quit a game over 3 traveling calls in a quarter and a half of basketball. Sitting on the second row the scores bench, here is what I saw and heard. Apparently their head coach was mad because they were calling the traveling much tighter than they were used too, even though he had only called 3 of them. Their head coach started throwing a temper tantrum, saying that he was "going to pull his team off of the floor, if they (the refs) didn't quit cheating". He came over and said it to Coach Boyd, he said it to our AD who tried to calm him down, and he said to the officials. Finally at the end of a time out that Curie called, he said the right thing while at the end of his bench by a ref who finally T'd him up. At that point he took his team and literally walked off of the floor to his locker room. The official let him get all of the way off of the floor, and around the corner before coming over to the scorers table, waving his arms off and calling the game. At that point the refs went to their locker room. A couple of minutes later, Curie came back out to the floor, but the officials refused to come out saying the game was over. In all of my years, I have never seen anything quite like it.