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QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Jan 26, 2016 -> 01:27 PM) Right but that was missing a 2nd and 3rd rounder. Even if they give up the pick here, they still have their normal full draft. The fact is there are overwhelming odds Fowler, 10 years from now, was a better player than the guy the team would have selected with pick #28 or what the additional draft pool would have brought. Of course it could be the other way around, but look at the bright side, their second rounder moves up a spot if they lose the comp pick. Odds are pretty high that the player drafted #28 by the Sox this year is automatically their #4 prospect (being some combination of Anderson, Fulmer, and the #10 pick), and a decent chance at being a top 100 prospect in the game within the next year or two. The team also then has a few options in the draft. They could go the Astros route of saving money on their top pick, and then getting a sliding player at #28. They could go under on the 28th pick, and pick a guy with a big demand that they might not have drafted at #10. They could go under slot at either #10 or #28 and use that money to bring in a post round 10 HS kid that had planned on going college and add another kid they didn't have a chance at before. For the team that has traded away 3 of their top 10 prospects in the last few months, that has a lot of value. I know you keep saying they have a "normal" draft if they give up the pick, but I think a large part of why they didn't give up Samardjiza was because of assigning a specific value to that particular pick. It is an asset. The big difference is if the Sox do hit on a major league player with that pick, they will pay them $1.5 million over three years while they would pay Fowler somewhere around $10 million a year for each of three years. So while the odds are low of it happening, if it does happen, the payoff is big.

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Jan 26, 2016 -> 12:39 PM) A few days ago I went back to the #28 pick from present back to 2008. Now present, you can't tell but the only player selected with the #28 pick you wouldn't trade for Fowler was Gerrit Cole, but he didn't sign. You also miss out on the expanded draft pool, but having your entire #10 pick entire draft intact still makes that OK. No matter what you think of the pick, this is twisted logic. Saying that the 28th pick hasn't been good rarely, so we shouldn't care about picking 28th is silly. The 2015 draft shows why the draft pool is nice. We basically got two quality draft picks in the first 10 rounds, and then had to fill it up with slot/under slot signings to fit Zangari in.

QUOTE (NorthSideSox72 @ Jan 26, 2016 -> 11:42 AM) 1. Trading away Intl slot money would be pretty dumb, especially with 10 teams out of the big bonus pools this year and the Sox having a chance to rake in some talent. 2. Depends on what you mean by value. Outside Anderson-Fulmer-Adams, no one in the system is an elite talent. They aren't headliners for big pieces. They could help in a package, or maybe get you something decent when grouped together, but not any blockbusters. The Sox certainly have the armament to, say, get one of the Colorado outfielders. But it would also further strip an already-thin system. #1 depends on if they can lock up players or if they are already locked in with the teams that are blowing away the caps.

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Jan 26, 2016 -> 10:28 AM) It's too big of task to make non baseball players baseball players. It's not like other sports. Football, basketball, you can get a guy with a ton of talent to be decent in a few years. Baseball, no way. There aren't stories of guys who picked up baseball as 16 year olds and became big league stars. That is exactly why I said it would take at least a decade to see a payoff.

QUOTE (bmags @ Jan 26, 2016 -> 10:19 AM) Especially with any success Sox make, the copycats could basically use the fruits of white sox labor pretty rapidly without any of the longterm financial commitment sox made. Another point, not really knowing how cba will change. It's possible white sox wouldn't even have full rights to to sign these players out of their academies. If we go to a world wide draft, or to an international draft, it renders all of this moot.

QUOTE (Jose Abreu @ Jan 26, 2016 -> 08:12 AM) Hawks sign Stan Bowman to 3-year extension First GM to win three cups in the salary cap era of the NHL.

You are probably looking at a really long term investment before a potential payoff, I would guess somewhere between a decade and a generation by the time you actually see results. As long as that is understood, it is a great idea.

QUOTE (Hatchetman @ Jan 25, 2016 -> 06:01 PM) Help us out. Who are some difference makers? A guy who could either hit OR catch the ball would be a difference maker, as the guy who played RF last year didn't do either.

QUOTE (Vance Law @ Jan 25, 2016 -> 05:07 PM) Offering Cespedes a $30 million one year deal was a no-brainer? Judging by the $110 million he turned down from Washington, which included its own opt outs, I doubt that would have been enough.

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QUOTE (SoxSteve @ Jan 25, 2016 -> 03:18 PM) How does the town hall work? I will be there with a list of tough questions for them if i can in. Has anyone ever been at the town hall segment? Thanx If you want to ask question you get into a big long line of people standing at a microphone.

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QUOTE (Doc Edwards Shot @ Jan 25, 2016 -> 02:30 PM) Usually I think Passan is an idiot, but I agree with him this time. The Cardinals deserve severe punishment for that. If the league won't dole it out, they have zero credibility. Loss of picks and/or fines makes the most sense.

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Jon Heyman ‏@JonHeyman 40m40 minutes ago Nats' offer to cespedes reached $110M and included an opt-out, I hear. Did contain significant deferrals, tho.

Dan @lot_49 @BenBadler Is Tim Anderson a top 25 guy, in your opinion? Ben Badler ‏@BenBadler 35m35 minutes ago He'll be Top 100, but too many risk factors to put him in that group.

QUOTE (ChicagoHeel @ Jan 25, 2016 -> 12:22 PM) Hey guys, I'm fairly new to this board. I wanted to say that I love this community and the great insight I have gained from reading some posts. Forgive me if this is not the place to post this but I have some questions regarding SoxFest. I could not find specific answers to these questions on the White Sox official site, so I was wondering if some SoxFest veterans would help me out? 1. Should I come prepared with things to get signed or will they have photos,etc I can purchase there? 2. Are photos with players only allowed during photo sessions? Or can I snap a quick selfie during an autograph session or if I see a player in the hallway. 3. For a player like Chris Sale, what is the actual likelihood of scoring his autograph? Are his lines way too packed to feel secure about scoring one? Please help me out! 1- The answer is both. There are booths of people selling things, though they are not located in the autograph lines so you would have to purchase ahead of time. Also be prepared for festival type pricing. Be prepared to get hit in the wallet. 2- They really don't allow time for pictures with players. They are up there signing a ton of autographs, and the security people really try to keep the lines moving along. You can get pictures of the player while they are signing, but they won't pause to pose with each person they sign for. 3- If you want a star player, get there very early. Like hours early. They limit the number of autographs for each player, and lines will form hours ahead of time for top dogs. I would also give up any ideas of moving from line to line getting a ton of autographs of players signing in different lines at the same time. The staff there do count the number of people in line, and will cut off the lines once they get to a certain point (whatever the limits are) so you will know WAY ahead of time if you make the cutoff or not.

I would imagine the odds of his getting out of the NL are pretty low, no?

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QUOTE (LittleHurt05 @ Jan 24, 2016 -> 07:22 PM) Paul Goldschmidt is a beast. Remember the Goldy for Konerko trade "rumors"? The White Sox asked for him, Arizona lol'd. That was the extent of it.

QUOTE (HickoryHuskers @ Jan 24, 2016 -> 08:08 PM) That's the stupidest combination I've ever heard of. That's the kind of combination that an idiot would use on his luggage. [remind me to change the combination on my luggage.]