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QUOTE (Chet Kincaid @ Dec 14, 2015 -> 01:59 PM) I'd shock the world and offer Alex Gordon 5/$100. It would weaken one division rival (Royals) and make another division rival have to look elsewhere (Tigers). But if we do that then you have to make a trade for Frazier too. I won't say those words that rhyme with MALL PIN, but yeah... that would be fun. Gordon becomes much more interesting at 4 or 5 years, than he does at 6.

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QUOTE (fathom @ Dec 14, 2015 -> 12:19 PM) Andre Ethier He is an interesting candidate to see what would happen if was playing every day again.

QUOTE (South Sider @ Dec 14, 2015 -> 12:24 PM) At this point, I'd rather keep Laroche. Like others have said, he is the perfect bounce back candidate, and if he does in fact bounce back, will be much more attractive to teams during the season. I just hope the Sox plans this offseason aren't contingent on moving Laroche. That would be terrible. And if he doesn't bounceback, you don't lose anything you didn't already lose.

QUOTE (LDF @ Dec 14, 2015 -> 12:06 PM) good b/c it doesn't become you to berate me on some really petty B/S. going to the can't understand card and contradiction. i have yet to contradict anything in what i have said. believe me and if not, who cares. i never knew you to be like this contradiction stuff. In all seriousness, I have no idea what you are talking about anymore. You keep posting stuff, and then later saying that isn't what you said. Apparently I am not the only one who feels that way either. Call it petty or whatever, but I have no idea you mean most of the time. I give up trying to respond to it with any substance.

QUOTE (LDF @ Dec 14, 2015 -> 11:02 AM) i have never said anything of what the sox have done, already. geeze. i am saying i will wait to see if they continue to improve, via the FO statement of on 20 mil to spend. and pls quit trying to put words into my mouth so you can get a long anger feed thread going. i never said b/c of laroche contract, the sox shouldn't improve. actually you implied that but, "oh he is a good bounce back project" it is you who would not do anything b/c he is a bounce back player. i am saying who cares, improve that position anyway. smell the bull s*** you are shoveling. Honestly, I think the problem is I have no idea what you are saying in these posts, because I see you're contradicting everything I think you say in the next one. I give up.

QUOTE (ChiSoxFanMike @ Dec 14, 2015 -> 11:20 AM) Wasn't this guy on the Giants a few years ago? yes http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/s/sanchhe01.shtml

QUOTE (LDF @ Dec 14, 2015 -> 10:23 AM) bold #1 - i agree and i have stated that. bold #2 - so should the sox not try to improve that position, there is no guarantee he will bounce back and for me, too much of a gamble esp if the sox do nothing else. bold #3 - he is a pro player of how many yrs???? and he needs to be babied. bold #4 - i never said nor implied of cutting him. i am saying to continue improving this team. bold #5 - continuing to improve. you are making a generalization here or are hoping. until something else is done, there is no proof anything else is forth coming until it happens. so unless you have the in"s with the FO you, just like all of us are hoping that they will continue to improve. You are saying "continue improving this team", while ignoring that the team is doing exactly that. As I said previously they have improved at C and 3B, and are still looking to improve in other places. The proof in that is both in the team statements, and in the rumors that keep popping up with the Sox name in them. Centering the argument that LaRoche's status somehow means the team isn't trying to improve is 100% WRONG.

QUOTE (LDF @ Dec 14, 2015 -> 10:09 AM) let me understand this more clearly, are you saying that i have a laroche hate???? b/c if you do, you are wrong, i was for this signing, if nothing else, in other words, if the sox couldn't get anyone else, then yes he could have been a fall back. well, it failed. ok, but the sox will not explore any other moves or improvements unless some contract relief comes in. the sox tried to trade him and failed. i am more disgusted at the sox FO for not moving on and continue to improve this team. so what the sox will have to eat this contract, who cares the sox will see if he rebounds, they the sox need to continue the improvements. I can't count the ways that this post is wrong. LaRoche is a sunk cost, and no one else wants him. You literally have nothing to lose, and a 30 homer guy to gain if he can get back to where he was before. LaRoche has a myriad of things going against him last year, and is a prime bounceback candidate. If he still doesn't hit, you can cut him later. Once you cut him, you can't get him back. This team is continuing to try to improve. Just because LaRoche hasn't been cut quick enough for you, doesn't disqualify the other improvements the team has already made this winter. They are already better at 3b and C. They are also still trying to bring in another bat.

Parental involvement and early education are way more important than the school the kid attends.

It is December, and I went to the beach and drank beers this weekend.

QUOTE (StrangeSox @ Dec 14, 2015 -> 09:57 AM) Yeah one of our cats was doing that for a couple of weeks, turned out to be a bladder infection and she's been great since we got that cleared up. I was going to say it could be kidney, urinary, or behavioral related. I had a cat doing that who was going into renal failure.

QUOTE (LDF @ Dec 14, 2015 -> 09:48 AM) and you think this is a good gamble to make, so the sox should not address any improvement in this particular position??? the salary is committed to, but it still doesn't mean the sox can not improve that position. I think the LaRoche hate is overdone. They have more important things to worry about fixing.

QUOTE (glangon @ Dec 14, 2015 -> 09:49 AM) He went through the organisations that he did because he was blocked by All-Star MLB talent. Toronto - he had Bautista and Encarnacion ahead of him and was DFA'd to free up roster room. Dodgers - He had Gonzalez ahead of him and was DFA'd to make room for Corey Seager Orioles - DFA'd him after picking up Hoes. Had him for 2 months. Mariners - DFA'd him after picking up Lind. He's available at the moment. I reckon we pick him up on a minor league deal with an invite to Spring training ready to come in when we eventually DFA La Roche. His stats last year was .251 with 18 homers and 79 RBI's in AAA. Guys who have a legitimate and believable MLB power bat aren't getting cut that many times. Even if they had studs in front of them, they are assets which can be traded. No one in MLB thinks the guy is worth keeping except as maybe the last guy on their 40 man roster. Look at all of the garbage players on the 40 man rosters of those teams, and tell me why none of them could make room for a guy with 30 homer talent... The reason, he doesn't have that talent at the major league level.

QUOTE (RockRaines @ Dec 14, 2015 -> 09:35 AM) The Bears are extremely short on talent, they couldve squeaked into the playoffs this year but we need a really good draft. That is what blows my mind. This team is close to a playoff team, with a ton of garbage on the roster. Make some hits in free agency and the draft, plus have White here next year, and you could have something.

QUOTE (Jose Paniagua @ Dec 14, 2015 -> 09:20 AM) Frazier is worth Tim Anderson, and probably more. 1) it's two years of control at nice prices 2) he's an offensive star 3) he's very good defensively at third 4) Anderson has not solidified defense and has a K% problem. In so many other systems he would not be the #1 prospect. Use the #1-of-our-system tag to move TA for more than he's worth If I am trading Tim Anderson, I am getting a young cornerstone player back with some real control.

QUOTE (glangon @ Dec 14, 2015 -> 09:24 AM) He couldn't have been any worse than La Roche was. I just feel we went in the wrong direction last year. Too many veterans and not enough options. I spent 2 months praying for an injury last season so that we could see someone different come up. I don't think we gave Wilkins enough time, how can you judge Wilkins to be a classic 4A player after 45 plate appearances. By your logic Jim Thome was a classic 4A player with his .205 and 34 strikeouts in 131 plate appearances in his second season or Jose Bautista with his .205 average, 40 strikeouts in 96 plate appearances. There are loads of examples of players who struggled when they first came up, to judge a guy as a classic 4A player after 45 plate appearances is harsh. There is more to this than just the statistics. There is also some scouting going on here. If anyone really thought that Andy Wilkins had 30 homer major league power, along with a decent BA, he wouldn't have gone trough half a dozen organizations in less than a year.

I think they start the process of breaking in The Next Guy this year. Who that is, I don't know. What I don't expect to see is a temp or fill in guy like a Swirsky/Wimpy/Black Jack etc, except for a game or series fill in.

If you are looking at a 5 or 6 year deal for a guy like Upton and Cespedes, the draft pick is nice to have, but isn't as important as the guy you are signing is going to be here for a long time anyway.

QUOTE (glangon @ Dec 14, 2015 -> 09:09 AM) Read the post. Wilkins to AAA ready to come up if there was an injury. Sign a proper DH. There was no reason to cut Wilkins, he had just hit for a ton of homers in AAA. Ok, he struggled when he first came up, look at Konerko, Konerko struggled when he came into the majors. Hit .217 with 40 strikeouts in 75 PA with the dodgers in his 1st season and .215 with 30 strikeouts in 49 plate appearances in his 2nd season. Wilkins showed power, we could have kept him around. Wilkins really isn't that good. He is a classic 4A player, and the White Sox aren't the only team that feels that judging by how many systems he has just bounced through.

QUOTE (Steve9347 @ Dec 13, 2015 -> 03:01 PM) I came here specifically to post this. The asshole is the reason we won't make the playoffs this year. If we have 2013 Gould, this is a playoff team, and a maybe first place team.