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QUOTE (LDF @ Jun 29, 2015 -> 03:32 PM) in hindsight, i agree with what you posted. and i can see that even this past draft with some questionable picks when there were players on the board that signed a lot less than the slot in that pick. With the changes in drafting techniques since the last CBA it literally worthless to compare one pick to another in terms of signing bonuses because of the way that teams go underslot with certain picks in an effort to pick up talent later in the draft. For example our 15th round pick cost more than our 8th - 14th round picks. Why? Because money we saved in the 8/9/10 rounds we used to go over slot for a HS kid in the 15th.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jun 29, 2015 -> 02:29 PM) Nope. They can't trade him until after the World Series, but at that time Samardjiza would be a free agent. http://www.bucsdugout.com/2015/5/1/8530719...es-mets-promote

QUOTE (SoxPride18 @ Jun 29, 2015 -> 02:27 PM) So, getting Cameron can happen. I'd be all over that. Nope. They can't trade him until after the World Series, but at that time Samardjiza would be a free agent.

QUOTE (raBBit @ Jun 29, 2015 -> 02:23 PM) I don't know if I am remembering it right but IIRC, draftees don't have to be in the org for a year before they could be traded. After the World Series, they JUST changed it. http://www.mlbdailydish.com/2015/5/1/85303...er-world-series

QUOTE (SoxPride18 @ Jun 29, 2015 -> 02:21 PM) So they have to wait the full year now or can they trade immediately now? They have to wait until the off season, I believe.

QUOTE (SoxPride18 @ Jun 29, 2015 -> 02:18 PM) If Houston is interested in Samardzija, I would look to try and get Cameron and a PTBNL, like the Trea Turner trade. The rules changed because of Turner. A draft pick can not end up being a PTBNL.

QUOTE (KyYlE23 @ Jun 29, 2015 -> 02:05 PM) Was Richards involved in that situation where the LA Kings player(Stoll?) was busted with ecstacy and coke? Trolling twitter, cocaine is the speculation for sure.

QUOTE (GreenSox @ Jun 29, 2015 -> 02:06 PM) I've never seen any such documentation that he turned down a verified offer to be a GM elsewhere. A full offer to be GM? No. He wouldn't even take the interviews to get the point where he got a job offer. He was in the process with the Cards, and two interviews in, pulled his name out. He wouldn't even bother interviewing with Houston. He wouldn't interview with Baltimore. He turned down an interview with Pittsburgh. I know there are stories of other turn downs as well.

QUOTE (raBBit @ Jun 29, 2015 -> 02:05 PM) You angry boy lately. Very angry! I think Kenny is a great scout. We can't really look at things in a vacuum. When Kenny was heading player development the system was of the best in the baseball. His issue was that he thought he needed to exhaust every penny on the MLB team and got bent over by the past CBA as a result of it. Bingo. I don't think his problem is finding talent, it is being willing to put up the cash for that talent at the expense of the current ballclub. Historically he'd add the extra player do the team at the expense of drafting the most expensive/talented player available. With the new CBA that really isn't an issue like it used to be, and I think you see the difference in our drafts.

QUOTE (SoxAce @ Jun 29, 2015 -> 01:47 PM) Anyone else following this Mike Richards buy out, now "termination" of his contract? Looks like the Kings are trying to get out of that 10 year salary cap hit. Whoa. I wonder what the story is. Bob McKenzie ‏@TSNBobMcKenzie 11m11 minutes ago On LA terminating Mike Richards' contract for "material breach," there are myriad reasons why details can't be made public at this time. http://kings.nhl.com/club/news.htm?id=772865

QUOTE (GreenSox @ Jun 29, 2015 -> 01:43 PM) What other GM jobs did he turn down? Dick may be right - this is all on JR's orders. But still, to many of the acquisitions were of the Kenny Williams failed profile. I agree that Robertson doesn't seem like a KW type of closer... but using real assets on relief pitchers and utility players is a KW method. This has been really well documented over the years.

QUOTE (raBBit @ Jun 29, 2015 -> 01:42 PM) From what I've been told. Kenny has final say, is pivotal in the planning process, future outlook and ultimately can tell Hahn no. Hahn does the day-to-day stuff, communication, targets, money allocation, transactions, contracts, etc. Bell/Haber/Fabian are the next tier. Haber works a lot with both Fabian and Hahn. Haber makes player recs and has started communicating with other teams front offices (hence his promotion to Asst. GM). Fabian heads the analytical side of things, helps with due diligence, etc. Bell is more internal and makes most of the minor league transactions as you'd expect. That is great information, and makes perfect sense to me. I don't see Kenny in the process on a day to day basis, but I do see him giving final approval for most things, and being involved in certain projects (special scouting trips, etc)

QUOTE (ptatc @ Jun 29, 2015 -> 01:35 PM) I think he is heavily involved in "administration." However, i think he let's them do thier jobs with players. I have no quibble with that assessment of the situation. That is pretty consistent with what I see.

QUOTE (LittleHurt05 @ Jun 29, 2015 -> 01:19 PM) According to CI, if Rundblad is in Rockford, he only counts $75,000 to the cap, so that's not too bad I guess. If this is a two way deal like that, it is a very good contract.

QUOTE (ptatc @ Jun 29, 2015 -> 01:06 PM) I thought he has always been a "hands off" owners from the players respect, except for the budget. They needed to go to him to approve over budget spending. I am not saying Jerry is downstairs on a daily basis in the middle of things like Steinbrenner, but he is the guy who has the final say and gives the orders. I think Kenny and Rick have a relative level of freedom within whatever limits Jerry sets, for sure. But I only have to go back to the stories about Jerry stopping Kenny from firing both Greg Walker and Ozzie Guillen at different points to know who "calls the shots".

QUOTE (The Gooch @ Jun 24, 2015 -> 04:00 PM) I heading to Louisville and Nashville at the end of July. Going to tour a couple bourbon distilleries and then hit up Nashville. I've been to Nashville several times, but wanted to see if there is anything I should do down there that I haven't already. I've been to Bluebird Cafe (and may go again this time). Also been to most bars on the strip. Anything I am missing? Specifically looking for BBQ restaurants, but anything else to check out would be appreciated as well. Speaking of Nashville, has anyone ever gone into the American Pickers' stores? I watch the show regularly, and I am curious if one is worth the trip if I am in the area.

QUOTE (Eminor3rd @ Jun 29, 2015 -> 12:53 PM) None of you have any idea who is calling the shots in the White Sox front office. From the outside looking it, there is one guy who calls the shots. That is the Chairman. Everyone else works within Jerry's framework. Again, from the plentiful circumstantial evidence, both Kenny and Rick are OK with it. They both could have left if they wanted to do so at many different points.

QUOTE (kitekrazy @ Jun 29, 2015 -> 12:43 PM) I think $$$ has a lot to do with it. He was paid well as an asst. GM. He wouldn't even interview with teams. How do you know what teams are going to offer if you won't even talk to them?

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QUOTE (Quinarvy @ Jun 29, 2015 -> 12:32 PM) Has anyone other than Cowley or Bernstein reported on this mythical beef? No. But at the same time, I wouldn't expect it to happen unless the Bulls wanted it to happen.

That is great stuff. The human face on baseball that FS brings on a regular basis is just awesome and very unique. Any idiot can rant for 140 characters and most do exactly that. It takes some talent to chase down these kind of interviews and stories on a regular basis.

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Jun 29, 2015 -> 11:45 AM) You tell me, who pushed the most to sign Robertson...was it Hahn, getting KW and JR on board....or KW, pushing Hahn to get it done and after/then convincing JR? We've read all the stories about how it actually took place at the winter meetings, but who was the one who pushed for the overpaid, expensive "elite" closer the most? I have yet to hear a story that had Kenny Williams involved in the Robertson pursuit. I would love a link if you have seen otherwise.

QUOTE (flavum @ Jun 29, 2015 -> 11:15 AM) But maybe he took it on a lesser level, BECAUSE it was the White Sox. He has those working relationships, so he took the title and the pay raise. It was something he could do for the Sox, but not Team X. He had half a dozen different chances to take a job where he could have written his own story and rules if he didn't like it here. Not only did he not want the jobs, he didn't even want to give the other teams a chance to talk him into them.

QUOTE (GreenSox @ Jun 29, 2015 -> 11:05 AM) I think it's more of Ken Williams' ideas and Hahn went out and executed those ideas. Too much Williams' M.O. on the last offseason. Entirely Williams' M.O. really. If Hahn was making all of the decisions, we'd see him move in his own direction...this offseason was the same kind of moves Williams' has been making for years. If Hahn wasn't on board for the direction of the organization and whatever level of freedom he got here, he would have at the very least not turned down half a dozen different chances to interview for other GM jobs. To argue any differently has to paint Rick Hahn as a f***ing idiot who couldn't figure out his work environment despite working here for over a decade. Rick Hahn is here because he buys into what Kenny and Jerry are doing here. Nothing else makes any sense.

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Jun 29, 2015 -> 11:43 AM) http://www.theheckler.com/2011/04/20/white...stupid-callers/ I'm not sure whether to laugh about stuff like this or feel that it's ridiculous we're supposed to feel sorry for him? It is the Heckler, so hopefully you are laughing at it.