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ESPN Stats & Info ‏@ESPNStatsInfo 6m6 minutes ago Kevin Love opts out of final year, will be free agent Possible deals, projected money: Re-signs: 5-years, $108.3M Leaves: 4-years, $80.4M

QUOTE (fathom @ Jun 24, 2015 -> 12:56 PM) .264 and falling for Avi He hasn't been right since he got hurt. I am guessing there is something lingering.

QUOTE (LDF @ Jun 24, 2015 -> 11:32 AM) a really stupid interview. where is the old cliche, men should not brag about that stuff. This is Europe. They aren't nearly as uptight as Americans about sex.

QUOTE (LDF @ Jun 24, 2015 -> 11:30 AM) wright is interesting, a last resort pick. hunter is a shooting guard not a pg. jones. skill ok i am not sold. The Bulls are picking #22. The odds of getting a good player are pretty low. No matter who gets picked here will have some decent flaws.

QUOTE (Buehrle>Wood @ Jun 24, 2015 -> 10:33 AM) With his bat, which he was above replacement level. His defense weighed him down as I mentioned. I don't want him up here. Having watched a month to six weeks of both Sanchez and Johnson, I think the team is much better with Carlos's defense, even if Johnson is going to give them a bit more offense. Sanchez is a defensive stopper at 2B, and has changed entire innings with his glove. To a team that is struggling defensively, and is as fragile as it is mentally, I think this is more important.

QUOTE (flavum @ Jun 23, 2015 -> 09:42 PM) Crain scoreless inning. 1 hit, 1 bb, 2 k Any reports such as velocity, movement, or overall how he looked?

QUOTE (Jordan4life @ Jun 23, 2015 -> 08:20 PM) Thanks for the analysis, Hawk. Now back to Beverly Hills 90210. Does Kelly pick Brandon or Dylan? #90's Only if you quit pretending that Steve Kerr won that title.

QUOTE (Jordan4life @ Jun 23, 2015 -> 06:15 PM) Actually, he's terribly wrong. And thinking like this is why he's going to fail miserably at his new job. Steve Kerr realizes it's 2015. And that's why he's a champion. Steve Kerr has a great team. That is why he is a champion.

QUOTE (KyYlE23 @ Jun 23, 2015 -> 05:33 PM) Phil. Shut the f*** up. Please and thank you http://espn.go.com/new-york/nba/story/_/id...es-nba-offenses He's right you know.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jun 23, 2015 -> 04:54 PM) I figured it fit as well. I think we have to go back to Carlos Quentin to find the White Sox making a solid trade for a position player. Maybe Juan Pierre other than that? The difference I haven't quit on Garcia and Eaton, despite their starts, I stilll think both are at least MLB starting calibur players.

QUOTE (StrangeSox @ Jun 23, 2015 -> 04:44 PM) Nope, still think eliminating state endorsement of white supremacist symbols is part of the "real conversation." Saying "it's just a flag" is telling us to ignore the entire history of that flag and the rotten ideas it represents. There's no good reason to turn a blind eye to that or to tell people who (correctly) perceive it as a symbol of a deeply racist legacy in the south to pretend that it doesn't mean that. That's what it stood for in the 1860's, that what it stood for in the 1960's and that's what it still stands for. I'll again go back to the Germany analogy. The Waffen SS symbol is just some letters. Why can't it just be viewed as a symbol of Germany, no strings attached? Why not fly Nazi flags from government buildings as a symbol of their heritage, not their hate? edit: It's not how "I" choose to view it. It's how, historically and presently, it's been used. It is virtually exclusively white people that endorse that symbol. And yet still SS backed parties and groups still exist in Germany. Some even get elected to office. You are just reinforcing the point that taking down a flag, or even banning a flag, isn't fixing the actual problem.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jun 23, 2015 -> 04:42 PM) Like he said a moment ago...our record with that recently is "Matt Davidson, Avi Garcia, Conor Gillaspie, and Adam Eaton". That doesn't inspire confidence right now either. To be fair, Gillaspie's deal wasn't exactly groundbreaking. The Garcia and Eaton deals were much bigger.

QUOTE (Chisoxfn @ Jun 23, 2015 -> 04:18 PM) If you don't get a guy MLB ready or close, then you might just be better off with the comp pick and going with your own scouting. I might be overvaluing Shark, you might be undervaluing him. Reality is probably somewhere in between you and I's posts but if you aren't getting a top 100 prospect and another guy who you like quite a bit (at a minimum), you probably shouldn't make the trade. On the flip side, if you turn it into a 3 team deal, you could find a team willing to give us a young position player and them getting prospects from the contender. Plenty of ways to structure this thing but I think if Sox are smart, they move Shark early while others are waiting to get in. Of course, it could back fire if they don't properly market his availability. With this organization that is a recipe for disaster.

QUOTE (Soxfest @ Jun 23, 2015 -> 03:41 PM) 24/7 Cubs will be worse. Outside of a few hours of Sox telecasts, that is what it has been since football ended.

QUOTE (Soxfest @ Jun 23, 2015 -> 03:37 PM) The Score will be unlistenable when Cubs move to 670. The Score is already unlistenable between Cubs and Bears fans. that won't change anything.

I love reading threads like this from older generations, as if they weren't the ones who produced and taught the younger generations.

QUOTE (NorthSideSox72 @ Jun 23, 2015 -> 02:59 PM) I have a hard time saying this team needs 3-4 years to win. With the pitching they have in Chicago and in the pipe, they can put together good to great staffs (barring unforseen injuries which are a risk across all teams anyway) continuously for that period. And usually, pitching is the hardest part to build. They need better offense and defense from the entire skill infield set and catcher. That should be the focus. If enough of those 4 positions can improve substantially, you have a contending team. That's not an easy task, but we are also only talking about 4 positions so it isn't impossible. Yes Avisail is a worry, but he's the least of your problems if this teams skill infield and catcher were putting up even league average numbers on both sides of the ball. That's literally all it would take, in my view, to make the Sox contenders in 2016 - league average or better (both sides) players at those 4 roles. (before anyone screams, I am not saying you can't also improve elsewhere, just that the OF and 1B/DH are either good enough or having unusually bad years so they aren't a priority in my eyes) I really feel like the talent is there. Something is poisoning the well on the South Side. This entire franchise just took a gigantic leap backwards, all at the same time. That doesn't happen without a reason. I don't know if it is clubhouse problems, leadership problems, management problems, or everything rolled into one. The talk with Ventura has always been that his demeanor would keep the team calm and relaxed. This team has looked the opposite. They look tight and distracted. They play like someone in the dugout is holding a gun to their head. There is no patience in any phase of the game right now. When guys get on base, they are looking to hit a six run homer on the first pitch. Alexei has a double play ball hit to him, and he is looking to turn it into a quadruple play. Anytime something bad happens, the team just melts down. There is no confidence to be had anywhere. No swagger at all. They play like they expect the worst to happen. Something needs to change. If it is a trade to get rid of the problem player/s, or if it is a coaching problem, just fire them. That being said, I think the talent is there. Even if you get these guys back to being average as a whole, instead of a f***ing terrible team, there is space to go. This is a team that could win in a year if whatever is wrong internally is fixed.

QUOTE (Quinarvy @ Jun 23, 2015 -> 02:57 PM) Cubs conversations start with Bryant or the Sox hang up. There is literally no reason for the Sox to discuss a Chris Sale deal with the Cubs without Bryant in it. The Cubs will never do it, so it is a waste of a conversation.

QUOTE (Chisoxfn @ Jun 23, 2015 -> 02:57 PM) No one is talking about the logic here. We are talking about piss poor scouting by the Sox. Case closed and it is a consistent trend (both in terms of acquired position players and drafted position players). It is problem with drafted players, but we do much better in acquisitions.

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QUOTE (Joshua Strong @ Jun 23, 2015 -> 02:43 PM) I'm one of the bigger BPA guys here when it comes to the draft, but with that being said the Sox do need to be able to develop their own bats. I wasn't talkin about the draft specifically but rather the Org as a whole But they don't. So why pretend they do? Go with your strengths.

QUOTE (raBBit @ Jun 23, 2015 -> 02:44 PM) If the Sox trade someone at the top it's going to be Quintana. The Red Sox make a lot of sense to me. Something like Christian Vazquez, Jackie Bradley Jr. and Rafael Devers. Add defense and potential. Then the Sox have 1.) Sale 2.) Rodon 3.) targeted SP with upside to be possibly traded in July 4.) EJ/Fulmer/Beck 5.) Danks With the rotation set up we have, and Fulmer on the way, if anyone goes, Q makes the most sense by far.

QUOTE (Chisoxfn @ Jun 23, 2015 -> 02:34 PM) Dick's entire premise is the Sox made a trade for a guy that thought was a bonafide starting 3B and he hasn't yet played a game at the big league level. That is awful scouting. None of us know what else was offered but clearly other offers would have been their for read. The Sox scouting department missed the boat on Davidson. No one is saying scouts are going to be right 100% of the time but we didn't get what you got. If the question was, do you trade a reliever for a cost controlled 3B men that starts and is an average to above average starter...answer is probably yes. However, that depends on scouting and the reality is the trade is a failure if you look at it from the perspective we traded a piece who had value (at that time) and got a player incapable of starting. Similarly, the Dbacks could also look at the deal and say they could have scouted read better and got someone better. The Dbacks could also be looking at it going, man, we were right as to why we were willing to trade Davidson (saw that hole and knew he wouldn't overcome it). What we do know is Sox whiffed badly on Davidson. Which is exactly what this trade was about. Davidson ended up busting, no joke. That doesn't mean you don't make the same type of trade in the future, especially in an organization which can churn out pitching.

QUOTE (StrangeSox @ Jun 23, 2015 -> 02:37 PM) Insisting that people who want to see symbols of white supremacy removed from government buildings are only talking about distractions and don't care about "real issues" is insulting. So what is being done?

QUOTE (StrangeSox @ Jun 23, 2015 -> 02:35 PM) I think it would be monumentally stupid to completely ignore the reasons that people do things, the ideologies that drive them and the sources of those ideologies and just chalk it all up to 'crazy'. Nobody "made" it a story about race except the guy who killed nine black people because of their race and his racist beliefs. You cannot separate that from the story, and you cannot separate the legacy of white supremacist violence in this country. Pretending the flag is the problem is ignoring all of the rest of the bolded.