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QUOTE (bmags @ Jun 4, 2015 -> 12:04 PM) Hard for me to point the finger, he clearly wore out his welcome. But Thibs big year would have been 11 when we had a top 5 offense and top 5 defense, then it derailed when Rose blew his knee out. His coaching job in 14? When we were sure they were going to tank (they were awful, awful in late dec/jan), and he pulls out a high point offense with Noah leading the way midway through the season? That was incredible coaching. That team was not good. This was his big year and the team certainly didn't mesh. That's on him. But his lack of title success, we did not have title teams. If he had scott brooks team, i'd like to see what he did. When you look back at those teams, it's like when you look back in 06 when we thought we had a championship team because we signed Ben Wallace. The talent is not there. This is well done. I agree with almost all of it.

QUOTE (LDF @ Jun 4, 2015 -> 11:13 AM) yeah, and last yr, the sox over spent on his salary and over the slot suggested. Rodon and agent wanted more money than the #1 pick, which he didn't get. but the sox spent the rest of the entire money allotted for salary and even the cushion money. so no one is going to know what the entire conversation is going to like. hell fulmer may not even be there. Actually he did get more money then anyone else in the draft. Even if Aiken would have signed for his originally agreed to $6.5 million, Rodon got $6.582 million.

QUOTE (Y2JImmy0 @ Jun 4, 2015 -> 11:44 AM) I disagree. What's wrong with having 2 aces and a #2? All 3 of which are bargains for next 6 seasons. I'm not trading Q unless I get a ton in return. In all seriousness, unless Rick gets a Texeiria return, there is no point in listening to offers on Q.

QUOTE (Y2JImmy0 @ Jun 4, 2015 -> 10:49 AM) Quintana was a 5 WAR pitcher last year and has a great contract. There is no reason to trade him. SS is right though, it would take an absolute haul to get Q. 2-3 system top 10's and at least 1 top 50 prospect. Probably even more. There is no reason to trade him right, that is for sure. Just speaking to his value. Though it is an interesting thought when you think of it in the terms that his value will never be higher.

QUOTE (AlSoxfan @ Jun 4, 2015 -> 10:39 AM) I've often wondered about trading Q but his contract is pretty good and we'd have to replace him with who??? with him we kinda know what we're getting and at a good price, but still for the right offer?? Shark has disappointed me so far an if need be I'd trade him at the deadline. Unless he really turns it around I don't think he'll be getting any 100+ million$ offers but who knows in today's market. Quintana would bring a huge package because of his performance combined with his contract. He would bring back more then anyone not named Sale on this roster.

QUOTE (Jake @ Jun 4, 2015 -> 09:13 AM) Walker I think is someone who was clearly promoted too aggressively and was irrevocably harmed. I don't mean to say I think he'd have been a major leaguer with better development, but his production and things like the way he has talked on Twitter make it clear he has struggled to handle the massive failures he's had at just about every level. I really hate promoting guys with sky-high K rates like he's had just about every year and level except this one. I really think the Sox do that by design. They would rather know young that a guy has make up problems, then to have to figure it out later on down the line.

QUOTE (LDF @ Jun 4, 2015 -> 10:26 AM) can you help me out, are these good numbers??? They are incredible numbers. Roughly translated that means about 1 in 3 televisions in the Chicago market was tuned to the Hawks game.

QUOTE (bmags @ Jun 4, 2015 -> 10:21 AM) Is 1.26M homes in Chicago or total? That is just in Chicago, not sure if City of, or Metro area.

QUOTE (Heads22 @ Jun 3, 2015 -> 08:21 PM) Sounds like the five candidates for the ISU job are: TJ Otzelberger, ISU assistant Steve Prohm, Murray State head coach Brad Underwood, Stephen F. Austin head coach Jeff Hornacek, Phoenix Suns head coach Bryce Drew, Valparaiso head coach I hope Bryce sticks around here. I love what he is doing at Valpo.

Jeff Nuich ‏@JeffNuich 41m41 minutes ago TV RATINGS: #Blackhawks #StanleyCup Gm 1 - 28.0 avg in the Chicago mrkt...36.2 "peak" rtg = 1.26M homes tuning in.

QUOTE (Eminor3rd @ Jun 4, 2015 -> 09:09 AM) You are continually insisting that a team strategy needs to be ALL IN or TOTAL DISASTER with nothing in between. That just is not reality. Look around the league. If those poor people would just get jobs, they wouldn't be poor anymore.

QUOTE (Eminor3rd @ Jun 4, 2015 -> 08:58 AM) I'd rather bench Gillaspie than Sanchez at this point. LaRoche/Sanchez/Ramirez/Beckham is actually a good defensive infield. Bingo.

It will be interesting to see if these guys get healthy, whose spots they take. We are pretty deep in righties in the pen.

QUOTE (Soxfest @ Jun 3, 2015 -> 07:51 PM) They said score 6 in a inning we will resign...........players respond big time. Only they meant Re-sign.

The Hawks have weathered the big storm. They settled in nicely.

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Jun 3, 2015 -> 06:40 PM) Schueler was still in the payroll a year or two after he quit.and while KW worked under him when he was the GM, Schueler reccommended Dan Evans to JR for the job. The fascinating thing about this whole thing was everyone was stroking Rick's cock for the moves this winter. Now that the team has struggled, those were stupid moves that KW made. And supposedly it was Schueler who pushed for the infamous Todd Ritchie.

QUOTE (GoodAsGould @ Jun 3, 2015 -> 05:57 PM) Does anyone know of inexpensive honeymoon places, getting married in May of next year and want to take her somewhere nice that won't kill us financially after paying for a 20ksh wedding. I was thinking Caribbeans but really in all my past travels I've only gone over seas so don't know much about where to go down there or costs/etc. Niagara Falls and Las Vegas are thoughts.

QUOTE (Thad Bosley @ Jun 3, 2015 -> 06:08 PM) So here's what I would tell you. I think the use of the term "primary executive" was, perhaps, applicable to Williams during his run as GM. You didn't see Reinsdorf keeping Schueler around in this role of "executive vice president of baseball ops" during that time. But now with Williams in that newly created role, and with Hahn having been his assistant GM all of those years prior, it's really hard to imagine that this so-called rebuild isn't more a co-developed approach then not. Let's also not forget that shortly after the Peavy trade and the start of the rebuild, Kenny was quick to get in the press to let us know he was ready to do the exact same thing after the 2010 season. Unfortunately, that pesky "competitive spirit" of Mr. Reinsdorf gummed things up then, as he overrode that strategic decision that offseason in favor of the Adam Dunn-led "All In" effort. So they may call Hahn the "primary" exec, but the management structure and Kenny seemingly still hanging around quite a bit suggests Hahn isn't so much on his own plan for running this team as we think. I think the idea that Rick Hahn has some completely different plan that is being stifled by everyone here is just silly. First of all, Rick Hahn cut his teeth with the White Sox. If anyone has an idea of how the front office of the White Sox is run, it is Rick. The guy has worked for this team for over a decade. He knows very clearly the organizational structure here, and he knows it infinitely better then any of us on Soxtalk. Second of all, Hahn had teams knocking on his door, trying to get him to interview with them. The Trib article about Rick's promotion stated that at least five different teams came after him at various points. Taking the assumption that Rick Hahn understood what he was getting into with the White Sox, and the fact that despite having many other teams after him, he turned them all down and waited for a promotion here, you can only make the reasoned point that even with the understanding of how the White Sox are run, he wanted to be here. Not only did he want to be here, he wanted to be here more than just about anywhere else. If he didn't, he would have either taken these other interviews, or waited out his contract to find a better organization. None of that actually happened. The only reasonable conclusion is that knowing his market for another job, and knowing how the Sox are run, he wanted to be here. Finally, knowing that both Kenny and Jerry had what ever level of input that was related to Rick in the promotional process, Rick Hahn was also fine with that. He also was accepting of whatever long term strategic plan that was related to him over the course of his time with the organization. When he accepted the promotion, he knew damned well his level of power, the approval process within the organization, and the long term plan for the franchise. Again, if he didn't like any of it, he wouldn't have taken the position. There are only two reasonable conclusions that can be had here. #1, Rick Hahn is totally on board with whatever plan was discussed along they way. #2 Rick Hahn is perfectly willing to accept whatever directives that Jerry and Kenny have put together for this team. Now what are the levels of input and freedom that Rick has? Who knows. Whatever it is, it is something that was established years ago, and involves upper management pretty intimately. To me is also obvious that upper management is OK with what Rick Hahn wants to do, and Rick Hahn is OK with what Kenny and Jerry want to do. If all three of them weren't OK with it, some combination of Rick and Kenny wouldn't be here. They almost have to be on the same page. None of these guys is functioning independent of the others, otherwise this set up would have never happened. No matter who is the "primary" thought guy here, this is a team effort.

QUOTE (chitownsportsfan @ Jun 3, 2015 -> 04:34 PM) The odds are they aren't a playoff team. http://www.hardballtimes.com/the-meaning-o...ord-in-mid-may/ This is exactly what I have been saying. Thanks for the support.

QUOTE (BigHurt3515 @ Jun 3, 2015 -> 04:49 PM) I guess Beckham is the new starting 3B Considering that he isn't just outfielding Connor but also outhitting him, I am OK with it.

QUOTE (Eminor3rd @ Jun 3, 2015 -> 03:39 PM) Balta just said the ONLY possible explanations for the poor play of this team are radiation, disease, or bad coaching. LDF, you very much CAN think of a plausible counter. There is plenty of room for fluke in a 50 game sample. Look at the other end of the spectrum at who is in first place. Does anyone really think that Houston is a 101 win team? That is the pace they are on. Is Minnesota a 95 win team? That is the pace they are on. I think is pretty clear you will see some significant regression from those teams, just as there are high odds that you will see some significant improvement out of the White Sox.

STATS ‏@STATS_MLB 19m19 minutes ago The #Rangers have averaged 7.5 runs in the last 11 games, and #WhiteSox LHP Chris Sale's 4.62 ERA vs. them is highest versus any AL club.

I expect the White Sox to get some thank yous for these. MLB Communications ‏@MLB_PR 4m4 minutes ago #Astros Dallas Keuchel (2.62 ERA, 38 SO) has been voted AL Pitcher of the Month for May, earning the honor for a second straight month. John Blake ‏@RangerBlake 5m5 minutes ago Delino DeShields has been selected as the American League Rookie of Month for May.

Gordon Wittenmyer ‏@GDubCub 4m4 minutes ago Soler to DL with left ankle sprain. Baxter back on roster to take his place.