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QUOTE (Greg Hibbard @ Apr 24, 2015 -> 01:31 PM) After some reflection, I'm just angry about this whole thing today. I'm angry at Eaton for apparently instigating a shouting match, I'm angry at Shark and Sale for being loose cannons, I'm angry Avi couldn't pull the trigger or lay off some questionable pitches, I'm angry about our f***ing lack of execution with runner on 2nd, 0 out in extra innings. We couldn't even effectively get him over. Most of all, what I'm angry about is Robin Ventura's "things have happened before with this team" comment about KC. What makes me particularly angry is that there is absolutely no accountability and there's no fire from this manager. I want to see some f***ing EMOTION about this loss. You're at home against a contending division rival, a bench clearing brawl happens, five players are ejected including two of your three best starters in an extraordinarily important divisional series that will largely decide how the next month may go - and your apparent f***ing response as a manager is "well, what CAN you do?" I want a closed door meeting - that should come from Robin. I want a manager calling out HIS OWN players for their lack of DISCIPLINE. I want a manager doing ANYTHING to light a fire under this team which has a total lack of cohesion. We need a CHANGE in this department. WHY do we have this manager? I like Robin as a player (god I'm tired of that qualification). I've seen NOTHING from him that he adds ANYTHING to this team in the management department, and the response AFTER THIS - an important f***ing home game against a division rival that we SHOULD have won - is INFURIATING. These types of games are the difference between 75 and 90 wins, folks. The assumption of course being that because Ventura didn't tell the media what he said to his team, that must mean he said nothing.

They will have warnings issues before batting practice even happens today. You'd be stupid to throw at someone today.

QUOTE (SoxPride18 @ Apr 24, 2015 -> 01:34 PM) Lol, honestly, what's so bad about Valpo? I like it. Mostly the people that live there. It is a pompus and arrogant town with no real good reason to be one.

QUOTE (SoxPride18 @ Apr 24, 2015 -> 01:31 PM) I have family that live in Valpo and my family are huge ND fans lol. I know/knew Samardzija personally as well. I'm sorry.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Apr 24, 2015 -> 01:22 PM) Valpo and Notre Dame. Bout sums it up for me. And the Cubs? Yeah, there goes my lunch.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Apr 24, 2015 -> 01:03 PM) While I don't disagree with the "More there than we know"...it's also odd how it took Samardzija like 3 minutes before he really went after a guy. That suggests to me it was something said right there that pushed over the edge. yeah, something was said or done in the scrum that ignited him after the initial Eaton incident.

QUOTE (Steve9347 @ Apr 24, 2015 -> 12:14 PM) Edinson Volquez, who missed thanks to his lack of command. BOOM>

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Apr 24, 2015 -> 12:02 PM) Are you saying it is OK to blast Robin because the majority of the site incorrectly blames him for everything? Just look at what was posted. I did nothing wrong. You know exactly what I and Balta are saying. Posts which are looking for nothing else but to antagonize people aren't OK. That is it. Period. End of story. No ifs. No buts. No pointing at someone else to justify your own actions. Stop trolling.

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Apr 24, 2015 -> 11:57 AM) . I think blaming Robin for everything is a bit tiresome. Haven't seen you reply to the f*** you Robin crowd yet, even when they were using the r word several times. So I believe your position is a bit biased. Actually there is an entire thread that was posted just today about this kind of stuff. These type of posts serve no purpose other than to antagonize the majority of the site that doesn't agree with you, and you know this. Quit looking to point the finger at someone else and just stop it. And to make the point of how monumental this post is, this is me, backing up Balta.

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QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Apr 24, 2015 -> 09:58 AM) Eaton joined the Sox in 2014. Teaford last played for the Royals in 2013, and that was 1 game. Scratch that source. And to top it off, Adam Eaton while he was with AZ never played against KC.

QUOTE (fathom @ Apr 24, 2015 -> 09:42 AM) Seems like Eaton has done some stuff in the past vs KC Everett Teaford @ETeaparty25 · 10h 10 hours ago Not totally defending Ventura, but I have seen Eaton pull some bush league moves on KC players in the past. Always 2 sides to every story. Who is that, and what is he talking about?

QUOTE (fathom @ Apr 24, 2015 -> 09:40 AM) Not saying it didn't happen, but sure seems like more people would be aware of the Sale situation if it really did occur. Chicago media wouldn't have reported it.

QUOTE (LittleHurt05 @ Apr 24, 2015 -> 09:35 AM) Nate Bukaty @nate_bukaty · 4h 4 hours ago Was told by a good source that Sale came to the Royals clubhouse in the 8th inning, looking to fight Ventura. This is what his Twitter profile says: Commentator for Sporting KC, Co-host of The Border Patrol on Sports Radio 810, and broadcaster for Jayhawk Network Got it. Thanks.

QUOTE (flavum @ Apr 24, 2015 -> 09:30 AM) I have no problem retaliating when you think it's on purpose, but the mindset of "you hit one of our guys, we're going to hit two of yours" stuff is dumb, and it also contributes to losses, suspensions, possible injuries. It's got be over now, and Samaradzija needs to shut up and pitch every fifth game. The same people who are fretting about the clubhouse fracturing over Robin Ventura need to realize that in the baseball world, this is how you publicly show support for your teammates. Right, wrong, or indifferent, this is how baseball teams stay together. Guys who don't "stand up for their teammates" are the ones who cause fractures in the clubhouse. If people worry about the clubhouse, these actions should show that these guys are there for each other, and on solid ground.

QUOTE (iamshack @ Apr 24, 2015 -> 09:25 AM) Apparently Sale tried to find Ventura in the Royals clubhouse in the 8th inning or something More details please. Are you saying that Sale went to the Royals clubhouse to find Yordano Ventura? For what purpose? Fight him? Talk to him and settle things down?

Colleen Kane ‏@ChiTribKane 41m41 minutes ago Robin Ventura after White Sox-Royals brawl: "This game is emotional, and it seems to follow them around." http://fw.to/QqLRwGI

Now teh door is back open for Crawford in Game 6.

QUOTE (Benchwarmerjim @ Apr 24, 2015 -> 07:14 AM) Im sure you guys discussed it in your game thread last night, but Yordano Ventura is a clown. Im all for showing some emotion and flair on the ball field, but he went over the line to straight up taunting. Something is really wrong with him.

QUOTE (SoxPride18 @ Apr 24, 2015 -> 08:54 AM) My reaction to the situation: Eaton didn't like the call the ump called, took his time to regroup, Ventura quick pitched him. I would be pissed too as a hitter but I can see why he did it, but even if Eaton did say something, Ventura has no business saying **** you to Eaton given his track record already this season. It's going to be interesting the rest of this series and all year long, because if someone gets hit (especially today), I can see a guy getting thrown out immediately. The line gets crossed when you start walking towards someone. That shows aggression.

QUOTE (Condor13 @ Apr 23, 2015 -> 11:25 PM) Only good thing that came from that game is that some of our players showed some f***ing life and heart and in that scrum. Sale, Shark, Q (reports), and Eaton all had some fire in them and were not gonna let those punks come into our house and take it over. I loved what the Shark did, he showed the team he is with them 100 %. I do wish it was Q, Danks, or Noesi bc Rodon can fill their shoes better then they can themselves. Our team needs something to get their bats going hopefully this was it. Yeah, for all of the fan chatter about a splintering clubhouse, all of the leaders on this team were right in the middle of the scrum last night. I sure didn't see anyone hesitate to come to the aid of a teammate/s

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Apr 24, 2015 -> 06:57 AM) http://www.kansascity.com/sports/mlb/kansa...le19361736.html 68% of Royals fans are blaming Samardzija... 23% Ventura...everyone else under 5% If You're Going to Play Rough... http://www.kansascity.com/sports/spt-colum...le19340676.html One other thing to consider is Alex Rios is also going to miss 4-8 weeks with a broken finger as a result of a HBP. Pujols denies saying anything negative about KC/team/fans to Lawrie.....calls Yost. http://www.kansascity.com/sports/spt-colum...le19338300.html You can also "consider" this is the third incident that Ventura has been involved already this year.

Y Ventura fields a hard comebacker from Eaton, and turns and yells f*** YOU at Eaton before throwing to first base. Eaton didn't even run to 1b, before turning to go back to Ventura. Then all hell broke lose. At one point Samardjiza took after someone, and just missed getting smashed with a round house punch. Crazy.

QUOTE (chitownsportsfan @ Apr 23, 2015 -> 06:27 PM) I honestly cannot even imagine trying to hit off Chris Sale in 40 degree weather. I mean, you're talking jam shot stingers that last the entire game. I have a feeling he's going to have even more of an advantage tonight.

QUOTE (LDF @ Apr 23, 2015 -> 03:52 PM) i am not disputing what you said, i just wonder why that would be important. That is where Sox Park has been since 1910.