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QUOTE (Athomeboy_2000 @ Mar 26, 2015 -> 08:33 AM) Not a good day for Bernsie and Spiegel, but mostly Bernsie. https://twitter.com/RegressedPDO/status/580933766488715264 I at least have respect for Spiegel and going back to McNeal because they were never too good to admit their were wrong, and they didn't act better than everyone else.

QUOTE (CaliSoxFanViaSWside @ Mar 26, 2015 -> 01:03 AM) Daisy Fuentes Can she hit a curveball?

The biggest thing MLB as a whole gets criticized for is not selling its stars. The White Sox are doing exactly that by selling the guys on this team. If the Shark Tank gets people to the game, let me be the first to start pining for Abreu's Amigo's to be located in the upper deck right behind the first base bag.

I posted this on facebook, but thought it apt for discussion here as well, as Governor Pence is about to sign this bill into law today. https://iga.in.gov/legislative/2015/bills/senate/101 Maybe I was a bit harsh on the whole "Religious Freedom" law about to go into effect. I got to thinking about it, and while to me I read the bible as saying that even if we don't agree with the sin, we still love the sinner, not all do. Christ himself had an inner-circle of sinners, and washed the feet of a prostitute. But many people don't agree with that interpretation, so I digress. Here is my offer. If you want the ability to exclude serving people who are sinners, I want to see it done right. Don't just exclude gay's. I want to see a sign of the following sort on your door. Cover all sinners and sin. "To protect our religious freedoms and sensibility, we will not be serving the following... Gays, Bisexuals, Lesbians, Transvestites, Divorcees, Fornicators, Masturbators, Pork-eaters, Women who are Menstruating (and any other ritually unpure), Hindus, Muslims, Jews, Buddists, Mormons, Gentiles, (or any other non-approved religious group, Christian or otherwise), Idolators, People not obeying their parents, Husbands not obeying their wives, Wives not obeying their husbands, Children not obeying their parents, Blasphemers, Any business on Sunday, anyone working on Sunday's, Murderers, Thieves, Adulterers (including the divorced and remarried, anyone marrying their brother's wife, etc), Liars, Covetors, Interest chargers, Interest receivers, Alcoholics, Drug Addicts, The Lazy, The Rich, The Proud, and any others I might have missed, and reserve the right to add at a later date. Thanks, Management."

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Mar 25, 2015 -> 08:04 PM) And it seems only about 3% off to Forbes too. I rounded up from $975 million...

QUOTE (WBWSF @ Mar 25, 2015 -> 06:05 PM) I have no doubt that Forbes is wrong on the value of the White Sox franchise. When the day comes and the White Sox are sold, they will sell for way over $1 BILLION dollars. With the stadium deal they have and a new TV deal coming up the franchise will always be making money. A billion dollars would be right about half of what the Dodgers sold for. That doesn't seem too far off to me.

Dan Hayes ‏@CSNHayes 39m39 minutes ago Erik Johnson confirmed has moderate oblique strain, which Rick Hahn said on blogger call Tues. Happened 3/17 in B gm. Day-to-day. #WhiteSox

QUOTE (Señor Ding-Dong @ Mar 25, 2015 -> 03:24 PM) It was bound to happen sooner or later, but damn if it ain't a little disappointing. Really enjoyed watching him this spring. There was zero chance of him heading north with the team, so it was inevitable.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Mar 25, 2015 -> 03:09 PM) $25 million-ish should be "new TV money". Fox TV signed a new contract with MLB that started in 2014. Every team in MLB should have gotten $25 million in "new money" compared to 2013 from that new TV contract on top of what they got beforehand. That's on top of the TV money they already had. That money is already balanced into the revenue and expense streams. In fact, the new FOX TV money probably just offset some of the losses from advertisers leaving a team that had been a loser 2 years in a row. Which is exactly why I mentioned, if you took out the new $25 million from the TV contract, our revenues were down again YoY.

QUOTE (LDF @ Mar 25, 2015 -> 03:05 PM) do they have the actual break down of the profit margin, there is a lot of profits the team hide form this type of search. thru other sub companies. anyway, pls think about this, the tv deal is worth as i said, more than 150 mil, that mean in all other ways, the sox only made, what, 60 mil in other forms of profits. if you say yes, then how were they able to survive all these yrs, esp during the 90's when there players salary was close to 130+. I will say this much. Forbes built an empire analyzing companies much larger and more complex than the entirety of MLB, let alone the individual franchises. Their numbers aren't going to be perfect, but there are going to be very much in the ballpark, and WAY closer than anything the teams/league will admit to.

QUOTE (LDF @ Mar 25, 2015 -> 02:49 PM) you are really not adding the tv money into that revenue. that deal is more than 150+ million. we had this whole conversation already with some one else providing a link to the tv / cable deal. TV money is already factored in, and accounted for in the profit margin.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Mar 25, 2015 -> 01:42 PM) You don't want that loophole? Great. What are the players willing to give up in negotiation in exchange for closing it? I think something of this vein is exactly how the international draft happens, and the money pipeline to Latin America gets closed.

Can I switch my vote to a Cuban rum?

QUOTE (NorthSideSox72 @ Mar 25, 2015 -> 01:23 PM) If revenues were $227M, and total costs around $195M... the player payroll last year was $91M for the major leagues. If you do some basic math on the minor leaguers (whose salaries are paid by the parent club), that's about another $4M or so... That means player payroll as a whole was about $95M of that $195M in costs, or nearly half. That leaves the other half for every other cost of running the team, including personnel salaries and benefits for non-players (incl mgr/coaches, front office, etc.), facilities costs, and everything the heck else. So 30-or-so guys' salaries are half the cost. Also interesting - the White Sox acquired majority ownership of their Advanced A club (Winston-Salem Dash). I wonder what impact if any that had. And finally, $31M profit... on the one hand, over 10% margin is good... on the other, you can see why just that "one more player" or "one more contract" can represent a real problem at times if they aren't careful. One more thing I neglected to post... $31.9 million profit estimated, right? Check this out: 2015 estimated player payroll $111.5 million 2014 player payroll $ 90 million. At least $21 million of it has already been spent.

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White Sox are valued at $975 million (up from $695m last year), had revenues of $227 million, and a profit of $31.9 million in 2014. Revenues were actually up $17 million in 2014, from $210m in 2013. Reading between the lines, if you take out the new $25 million from MLB's TV contract, revenues were down again last year. Using the numbers provided, it also means the White Sox cut expenses from about $213 million in 2013, to about $195 million in 2014, accounting for a small majority of the profits from 2014. (~56%). Other interesting notes is that on top of attendance being down, they also had the 3rd lowest TV ratings in all of baseball. http://www.forbes.com/teams/chicago-white-sox/

QUOTE (southside hitman @ Mar 25, 2015 -> 01:00 PM) Another thing I found interesting that I did not include in my article due to relevance to the site content, is Hahn wasn't ready to commit to needing someone to start for Chris Sale. He said that Sale has hit every goal put out for him in his rehab and there is a growing optimism he wouldn't have to miss any starts. Perhaps that is why we haven't heard Shark being named the Opening Day Starter quite yet? Kenny Williams already told MLB network that Sale was out for the Opener.

Of all of the schools that you would think would know better... http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2408649...gramming-league

QUOTE (KyYlE23 @ Mar 25, 2015 -> 12:03 PM) Apparently John Fox said that the team approached him about restructuring his contract. No word on whether he agreed to do it Ian Rapoport ‏@RapSheet 1h1 hour ago Clarity on what Fox meant about addressing Cutler’s contract. They never talked about redoing it, did talk as contract deadline closed in

Ian Rapoport ‏@RapSheet 1h1 hour ago Jay Cutler met with #Bears personnel without his agent as deadline approached for guaranteed money in 2016. Team left convinced he’s the guy

David Just ‏@davidjustCST 54m54 minutes ago Scott Boras: Major League Baseball is broken if Kris Bryant isn't on #Cubs Opening Day roster http://sun-tim.es/1BqMDZ2

QUOTE (LDF @ Mar 25, 2015 -> 11:42 AM) concerning the farm and minor league, excellent work. i love to read up on these area. btw, do you or any know if they will do it again?? it would be a great update / PR move. The team does a blogger call fairly regularly. We have been on them previously on many other occasions. They are always interesting, and we are very thankful the White Sox do them. It is a great opportunity that most teams don't provide to people outside of the traditional media outlets.

But they were right on Minnie Minoso.

Would Mark Cuban be a wrong answer?

If cost were no object, I'd say Moncada, Soler, or Puig.