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QUOTE (Y2HH @ Mar 11, 2015 -> 09:27 AM) The majority of older people vote, while a minority of younger people vote -- so every younger person that votes, such as yourself -- counts as the voice of the next generation of Americans. I remember when I substitute taught an AP Econ class for a semester while the teacher was on maternity leave. At one point they kids were asked if they wanted to register to vote, and pretty much none of them did. I made my point by pointing out that there was a million dollar senior center on the beach, while there was no youth facility at all. Then I compared the voting rates of those over 65 to those under 25. A few more people registered to vote that day.

QUOTE (Jenksismyb**** @ Mar 11, 2015 -> 09:56 AM) I don't think speed and explosion was missing from his game the last month. He's had that back since the summer and it was only getting better. So if that's what you guys are going on, i'm confident he can, barring another injury, be a really good player again. Does he need to evolve his game a little? Yes. Does he need to be more of a facilitator? Yes. Can he still take over for 3-4 minutes in crunch time? If healthy, yes. Obviously i'm being optimistic today, but there would have been no chance in hell that I would have traded Rose after one injury to his knee at age 23 given his talent and marketability. After 2 surgeries I would have looked around and started planning for a possible future without him, but I still would have planned for him to come back and be a part of the team. Which is what they did by bringing in Pau and bringing over Moritic. This third injury was always a risk and happens pretty frequently. Everyone overreacted. It's not another major injury, so I don't think it plays a huge part here. It's just s***ty timing and interrupts the whole teams ability to gel going into the playoffs. Especially since the surgery, Derrick Rose has proven out to be a mental midget off of the floor. Now after the injuries, it seem to have followed him into his game. He's a sunk cost now, and will never be the same player again. We can all cross our fingers, but with where we are today, the only thing I would count on from Derrick Rose is for him to continue to cash the Bulls checks.

QUOTE (LDF @ Mar 11, 2015 -> 09:46 AM) can you play at a high level, good question. several different answers for that. when someone who has a vast amount of talent, i can't see why not. but when one has a key ability, speed, it will diminish his overall use of his talent. Rose speed and his ability to make it work is what made him special. take that speed away, how do one compensate for that? Exactly. His speed and explosiveness are his game. I don't see how wondering if he can't do those things at 100% (or in Derricks head 110%) anymore means for his career is stupid.

The odds of my clicking that link are about as good as Jay getting hired back at the Sun Times.

QUOTE (Jenksismyb**** @ Mar 11, 2015 -> 09:17 AM) Well that's insane. Guys come back from knee injuries all the time. Look at Westbrook right now. You don't throw away a max, franchise guy without giving him a chance to come back. Would you have gotten rid of Jordan for breaking his foot? None of them have Derrick Rose's smallish body either. Rose's game is all athletic. You see what is left of Derrick Rose when he can't explode. It happened to Allen Iverson before him after a decade of abuse, instead of major injuries, but it happened. An ACL just makes it happen quicker.

QUOTE (Jenksismyb**** @ Mar 11, 2015 -> 08:53 AM) I gave credit to both. Not sure why you're ignoring that. And I'd like to know an alternative plan for Rose up to this point. After one ACL tear do you trade him? No, you don't. He comes back, tears his MCL, has 3 years left on a max deal. Who's taking him? What free agents are out there that you're going to pick up? Yeah, yeah, "look at all the players moving teams," the broadest response that ignores reality, like cap room, assets, competition from other teams, a players desire to play in Chicago, etc. It's far easier to complain about some magical answer that doesn't exist I guess. I just stated the facts. I don't expect them to contend for the ECF, let alone the title, without a healthy Rose. But there is talent on this team. The Bulls surrounded their franchise player with plenty of help. Unfortunately it's a team that can never stay healthy led by a player that can't stay healthy. After this year I have no problem with them drafting a PG for the future or even signing a back-up that is starter quality (if that's available because, again, reality). Lastly, Noah is getting close to 100%, if not already there. He's been good the last week or two. Pau was terrible in LA because of the situation, not the skills (see, this season). And I was referring to Mirotic, not McDermott. Actually after his ACL tear, I said exactly that. I was on the ultra-paranoid end of Soxtalk when it came to Rose's first knee injury. I thought there was a pretty good chance he would never be the same again because his margin for error was so small with the type of body and skill set he had/has. I would have traded him for the best, non-ridiculous offer, at that time.

QUOTE (Soxbadger @ Mar 10, 2015 -> 08:58 PM) You need a future hall of famer to get out of the first round? He made the ECF 1 time. Not the Finals, the ECF. Youre comparing to teams that won the NBA Finals, hes never even made it to the game. You aren't doing anything in the playoffs with the Bulls roster as it has been the last few years.

Dan Hayes ‏@CSNHayes 1h1 hour ago Robin Ventura on Michael Taylor's retirement: "I think his heart wasn’t as much into it as it has been in the past …" (1/2) #WhiteSox Ventura on Taylor (2/2): "Some opportunities presented itself & he decided to take that up. … Was no talking him out of it." #WhiteSox

Only one team responded? WTF do they all pay PR departments for? http://www.gq.com/blogs/the-feed/2015/03/k...=social_twitter

QUOTE (chitownsportsfan @ Mar 10, 2015 -> 08:00 PM) FFS it was simply to further add to the discussion about maturity and playing in MLB when you are young. Judging from what a few posters here mentioned with Micah it seems he might have a maturity issue (raise your hand if you didn't in your early 20s) and the best place to get on the job training might not be Chicago, but experiencing 200-300 PA down in Charlotte. Morrison came across quite self aware in his interview and also was speaking frankly about how maturity isn't something you just wake up with one day it comes slowly with time and experience. I feel like a lot of people on this board are simply ignoring Micah's flaws or papering them away. If you take a step back and ignore meaningless platitudes like "his speed changes games" -- what are you left with on Micah? A guy that hasn't even spent half a season above high A ball. A guy that from all reports doesn't know how to use his speed both in the field and on the bases to his full advantage. Sanchez is no great shakes. At best, he's likely to be adaquate. A 1 WAR starter with a s*** bat and a solid glove. That said, Micah is no great shakes either. Yes he has a higher upside, he also has a lower floor. As I've said time and time again -- this isn't the year to be rolling the dice unless you forced to gamble. If the Sox are 10 back in July and Sanchez is a negative WAR player then by all means, f***ing roll the dice on Micah. But there's not a single compelling reason to rush him up to MLB and ask him to be a 2-3 WAR player right away. Fans always get excited over guys that can run. I get it, I do, but come on, even Billy Hamilton compiled almost all of his value from defense last year, not something Micah is likely to duplicate, not by a long shot -- and Hamilton has a pedigree far exceeding Micah's offensively. He put up huge numbers in tougher leagues than Micah. In conclusion, this is a very tough decision for the club to make and treating it as "Micah's job to lose" doesn't do anyone any favors. It's way more nuanced than that. Wait we are taking one small incident and turning it a maturity problem? Come on man.

QUOTE (Soxbadger @ Mar 10, 2015 -> 08:03 PM) Playoffs matter. Regular season is for the birds. And you aren't going to win the post season without at least one hall of famer, or multiple superstars, no matter how good of a coach you are. There are a few exceptions, but after the LeBron superfriends crap, they are less and less likely. Already you have to go back to the 2004 Pistons to find a team without a future Hall of Famer on it. I couldnt even tell you the last team before that. Do the Bulls have any future Hall of Famers? How many superstars do they have? Yeah, I am sure that is Thibs fault too.

Scott Merkin ‏@scottmerkin 46m46 minutes ago Danks uses simulated game to build arm strength: http://m.whitesox.mlb.com/news/article/112...d-arm-strength# …

Foles is pretty fired up about this deal... http://www.fantasyfootballoverdose.com/nfl...rce=twitterfeed

Daryl Van Schouwen ‏@CST_soxvan 2m2 minutes ago Ventura on Micah: 'You notice his speed and range. Even his at-bats you see what people are talking about. He's in the middle of everything'

QUOTE (shipps @ Mar 10, 2015 -> 04:57 PM) Its just a blame game when you don't win championships and your fan base has the expectations that you are close enough to do so. The fact is, both Thibs and the FO have done a wonderful job at putting together a team to compete with the rest of the league given salary cap constraints and the lack of options. Thibs has done a great job with what they given him and brought along some young guys throughout the years that I dont know if many people even believed belonged in the league. The FO picked up talent that they felt would work well with Thib's and he delivered. Its really been a great marriage of the two other than what has gone on behind the scenes. Its really sad that this wont ever play out with a happy ending because I think there were some really great basketball minds and leadership to win at least one with this regime in Chicago. We'll go back to having a spineless coach who gets nothing out of his team. But I am sure Rose will love him.

QUOTE (Jenksismyb**** @ Mar 10, 2015 -> 04:43 PM) Who was a viable option? http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?p...reeAgents-11-12 Hear are your free agents in 2011 and 2012. Love and Howard are the only two I see on there and Love ended up signing an extension and Howard, IIRC, had no interest in the Bulls and was traded to the Lakers and ruined their short-term future by not resigning (oh and he's not really been dominant Dwight since). You're living in an alternative universe man. There was no realistic option out there that would have done anything to make the Bulls THAT much better than they were in 2010. And shoot, look at the team right now. Your starting 5, if healthy, consists of a hall of fame center, the youngest MVP in league history and multiple all-star, the reigning defensive player of the year and all-star, a budding all-star, and a solid vet, with a bench that consists of a starter-level 6th man of the year candidate and a really good rookie in waiting. But yeah, the FO sucks and hasn't given Thibs ANYTHING to work with. And apparently all of that was the result of the front office, and not the coach. But yes, counting on Derrick Rose to be healthy after two knee surgeries was brilliant work by the front office, if only the coach hadn't have gotten him a third knee surgery all by himself. Speaking of living in an alternate universe.... If there were any more sunshine in your reality, you'd be living on Mercury. More realistically, a star player, two knee surgeries later, who is afraid to play at 100%. A former DPOY who is coming off of knee surgery, and no where near 100%. A former All-star center, coming off of hte worst stretch of his career. A rookie who was no where near ready to contribute, can't shoot, and defends even worse.

QUOTE (Jenksismyb**** @ Mar 10, 2015 -> 04:03 PM) Yeah they tied their wagon to Rose, the freakin' youngest MVP in the league's history. Are you saying that was a bad move?! They needed more than Rose all along. Everyone on the freaking planet knew it. Thibs coached the s*** out of the roster he was given. He coached them to more than just about anyone else could have. Management hasn't been able to get Thibs the other big time player he needed. The closest they have come was getting Pau here, and really there wasn't a whole of excitement over him, as most thought he was going to be nothing near his good ol days, yet he gets here and is great again.

QUOTE (Jenksismyb**** @ Mar 10, 2015 -> 03:55 PM) So you have no names. Who are these stars they're missing out on that were realistic options? Lebron wasn't reality. Melo is literally the only one they "missed" on (missed since he was all about the money that the Bulls couldn't get close to, and it's now looking like a great miss), the others were choices they made, good or bad. I get the pent up frustration with the Bulls FA post-Jordan, but realistically since 2010 they couldn't have done much better. They've tied their wagon to Rose, they gave him a much-deserved max deal, and then he broke. All you have to do is look at the players who have changed teams in the NBA, and know that if the Bulls wanted to, they could have gotten into deals for just about any of them. But they don't. They tied their wagon to Rose. This team has need another star even with pre-surgery Rose... they still haven't gotten it done.

The Miller High Life guy... Age 36

Daryl Van Schouwen ‏@CST_soxvan 5m5 minutes ago Abreu has gone from first to third twice on hits to right by Shuck. Running hard, moving well.

They didn't really miss out on guys, but you just listed a half a dozen of them?

how little does $4 million matter in MLB anymore? https://twitter.com/AugustF_MLB/status/575358607908192256

Scott Merkin ‏@scottmerkin 9m9 minutes ago Danish's first Cactus League strikeout is Alex Rios

QUOTE (flavum @ Mar 10, 2015 -> 03:35 PM) Johnson walked into camp with the job, and he would have had to play himself out of the job. So far, so good. Let's just put it this way--it wasn't a flat footed, open competition, going into camp. He may well win the job but declaring the race over before first cuts is silly. How many ABs has he had against good pitching so far?

QUOTE (flavum @ Mar 10, 2015 -> 03:08 PM) It was never an open race really. We haven't even gotten to St Patricks Day yet.