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QUOTE (Y2JImmy0 @ Nov 12, 2014 -> 07:39 AM) As much as I'd love Moncada, it's a pipe dream with Jerry Reinsdorf as the owner of the franchise. I hope I'm wrong. If the bids are going to be that high, I agree.

QUOTE (Chicago White Sox @ Nov 12, 2014 -> 07:25 AM) Yeah, clearly you didn't take Finance 101. The rule applies to all businesses, especially the White Sox. Provide a product your customer actually wants or they will have no reason to buy it from you. This means investing in the quality of your product, or in the White Sox's case, trying to build a team that can actually win next year. If the front office can convince Sox fans they're serious about being competitive next year, Sox fans will buy more tickets and the incremental revenue will offset payroll the increase. That will be their basis for increasing payroll and there will be no expected loss. This will all be factored into their budget, which is forward looking, not based solely on history. What happened the year they added Dunn and went "all-in"? Why didn't they have an expected loss that season? I know you think because you read some Forbes valuation article that you're an expert of their financials, but based on everything that's been communicated this offseason I think you're completely in the wrong on this subject. Last year's payroll is not reflective of what they can spend this year or going forward. The Sox will not set themselves up to lose money. The rest of it is all imaginary and fiction. Besides, ask the fans... it doesn't matter what is spent in free agency, only that we win multiple years in a row. Or at least that is the latest excuse I have heard on the bandwagon.

QUOTE (thxfrthmmrs @ Nov 11, 2014 -> 09:41 PM) As solid as he has been playing, I think Rose is definitely playing cautious and holding off an extra gear. Last night's game, I noticed that there are numerous occasions where after Detroit scores a basket, he just patiently brings the ball back up court, where the old Rose would have gotten the inbound pass quickly and race up court to beat everyone else for the basket. We might see that later on in the season or in the playoffs, but I feel like we aren't getting the full Rose yet. He said exactly that to the media yesterday.

QUOTE (LittleHurt05 @ Nov 11, 2014 -> 11:27 PM) To be fair, the Hawks success began when the guy at the top died. Although great top draft picks was the biggest reason for their success, same thing with the Bulls. Notice something lacking with the Bears? Only the Jets, Panthers, and Sabres have a lower shooting percentage than the Hawks this year. Toews and Kane had already been drafted when Wirtz died. Change was on the way.

QUOTE (Chicago White Sox @ Nov 11, 2014 -> 08:40 PM) Multiple reports in the past couple days have said we'll have $40M to spend and I could see it being a little higher than that. While I fully expect a payroll right around $100M if all goes well in free agency, it's not that crazy to think they could go up to $110M if they hit on all their targets. You have to invest in your business to grow it, so if the Sox want to increase attendance and ultimately revenues, they need to commit to winning by spending big up front. lol. This isn't Finance 101. This is an established business with a long history of doing the same thing over and over again. The next time they go into the season with an expected loss will be the first one.

QUOTE (Joshua Strong @ Nov 12, 2014 -> 02:32 AM) I think Tulo goes to St. Louis or he remains in Colorado at least till the ASB. I think Castro remains a Cub, I personally think it's Baez who gets traded out of their crop of young players. Castro has brome a voice and leader in that clubhouse to go alongside Rizzo. I think someone has been drinking the Theo-Aid served up by the Chicago media.

Apparently it is going to be another one of those games.

Jeff Passan ‏@JeffPassan 8m8 minutes ago Execs think 19-year-old Cuban Yoan Moncada could get $30-40M -- which would really be $60-80M. Column on the phenom: http://yhoo.it/14aThcY

Chris Cotillo ‏@ChrisCotillo 4m4 minutes ago #Cubs in talks to acquire Jordan Zimmermann from the #Nationals, per @GDubCub

Colleen Kane ‏@ChiTribKane 2h2 hours ago Hahn says finding new catcher not top priority: "It’s not an area we feel we need to improve on right now." But would upgrade if right fit.

QUOTE (PolishPrince34 @ Nov 11, 2014 -> 06:20 PM) Can anybody answer this. Why did the Cubs and Rangers only get a 1 year penalty from international signings. This year Red Sox, Yankees, Rays get a 2 year penalty for going over 15% the allotted money. Why didn't that happen to the Cubs and Rangers get 2 years also? The rule changed.

QUOTE (Thad Bosley @ Nov 11, 2014 -> 06:12 PM) I was just kidding about the dated view part, and won't believe it 'til I see a change as well. But I wasn't kidding about noticing the change in attitude and the way they seem to be talking about things right now. And how nice is it to not be talking about not being able to spend a dollar when you only have 50 cents, or how Kenny Williams is scrambling to find loose change in between couch cushions. Good heavens, that line of speak gets old real fast. But so far this offseason it seems somewhat refreshingly different, and I'm expecting some big and exciting news before it's all over and done with. It is also the truth. The White Sox actually have big payroll room for the first time that I can remember. I can't tell you the last time the White Sox had something like $30 million to spend.

QUOTE (Thad Bosley @ Nov 11, 2014 -> 05:17 PM) That is such a dated view of the White Sox spending policy! Why, just yesterday, Rick Hahn was quoted as saying "We aren't going to be precluded from any single player because of running up against the limits of our payroll." He went on to describe that while chasing certain high-priced players in the past was not realistic, it isn't necessarily going to be the case this year. In fact, what I find particularly refreshing is that also unlike in years past, with all of that talk we used to hear about the Sox "flying under the radar" and what not, this year Hahn is openly welcoming and seemingly enjoying the Sox being associated with rumors about their interest in some big ticket items. I don't know exactly what's going on this offseason, but it feels different, and in an exciting sort of way, and I like it. While the team won't go too overboard crazy in spending, I also don't get the feeling they're going to be wed to some smallish total payroll number like $90M. It isn't a dated view until they do something to prove it wrong. The Sox always, and I mean always, go into a season not expecting to lose money.

Now the media is just getting stupid. Apparently the Hawks didn't struggle and get named one of the worst franchises in all sports, nor did the Bulls have about a decade of suck?

Bruce Levine ‏@MLBBruceLevine 5m5 minutes ago LH reliever Andrew Miller drawing interest from many teams including the White Sox and Cubs . Can set up or close .

Colleen Kane ‏@ChiTribKane 34m34 minutes ago Hahn on Alexei Ramirez trade rumors: Will listen, but "it’s certainly not something we’re pursuing on our end or are eager to convert on."

Dan Hayes ‏@CSNHayes 12m12 minutes ago Rick Hahn: "While we do have some flexibility ... the bigger and perhaps more important part of that plan is to spend it wisely." #WhiteSox

QUOTE (shysocks @ Nov 11, 2014 -> 04:01 PM) Cano got a 10-year deal starting with his age 31 season. If you want pitchers, Cliff Lee signed a five year deal at age 32. Forgot the details of when Verlander's extension officially kicks in, but he'll be 37 when it ends. Pujols and his 10 year deal ARod and his 2, 10 year deals Kevin Brown was 30 or 31 when he signed his 7 year deal years ago. Jeter got a 10 year deal, then another 3 years after that Barry Zito got a 7 year deal Todd Helton got 11 years Miguel Cabrera's 10 year deal Alfonzo Soriano's 7year deal Just keep going...

QUOTE (StRoostifer @ Nov 11, 2014 -> 03:48 PM) Is any team crazy enough to offer a 30 year old 7-8 years? Even the Yankees aren't that dumb. Someone will offer 7 years, I have no doubt about that. 8 wouldn't shock me. Top free agents get stupid contracts. It happens every year.

Buster Olney ‏@Buster_ESPN 3m3 minutes ago Orioles remain in negotiations with outfielder Nick Markakis on a multi-yr. deal; one of the unresolved issues is deferred dollars.

Buster Olney ‏@Buster_ESPN 5m5 minutes ago The Orioles offered Nelson Cruz a three-year deal before he went into free agency. They're positioned to wait out as he talks w/ other teams

Thank you Matt Karchner #obscure80splayers

QUOTE (StRoostifer @ Nov 11, 2014 -> 03:33 PM) Lmao. Scherzer turned down 6/144 which is 24M annually. Do people really think Scherzer went to FA just to collect just 1M more annually? He isnt signing for 25M annually. Come on, be reasonable people! I think the bigger difference will be in years, with his deal going to 7 or 8 years.

Just like it sounds... This thread is for talking about players that the White Sox have not been connected to, but people would like to talk about trying to acquire. Anything that has any real substance (actual news or rumors of interest from reports) can go in a separate thread for the player.

Bears Talk ‏@CSNBears 15m15 minutes ago #Bears waive WR Santonio Holmes. #BearsTalk