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Buster Olney ‏@Buster_ESPN 3m3 minutes ago The Braves' asking prices for Gattis and other young players is said by rival officials to be extremely high.

Rob Demovsky ‏@RobDemovsky 3m3 minutes ago Aaron Rodgers on @ESPNMilwaukee: "After the game my lower back hurt, and I think that was from standing around watching." #Packers

Paul Sullivan ‏@PWSullivan 14m14 minutes ago Phoenix, AZ Hahn says "we're all ears" on trades and no untouchables on roster. But sounds like Chris Sale is not for sale.

Bob Nightengale ‏@BNightengale 6m6 minutes ago The #marlins say no teams inquiring about Giancarlo Stanton because they know he's not available

QUOTE (Chisoxfn @ Nov 11, 2014 -> 12:39 PM) I think the only way it makes sense is if Scherzer thinks he can go short and then get another big money deal. Problem is, in that case, he'll just get the team to give the big money deal now, with an opt out to allow him to bet short. If somehow he were interested in a 3 yr deal, I'd be more then willing to give him $30M per year and call it a day. Prefer the short-term expensive vs. tail risk. However, more so then with other Sox teams, I could get more comfortable going bigger money on a pitcher, given that long-term we have what would appear to be a very cost-controlled unit that allows us to splurge. Having 3 frontline pitchers, two of which are arguably elite, is a huge advantage, especially when you have one of the top pitching prospects in baseball to go with him. That right there is a means to compete. It even allows you to go cheaper in other areas, as long as you prioritize defense, which typically can be filled cheaper then offensive players (although we will see how the markets evolve based upon the Royals success). Again, I'm not saying whether Scherzer is the guy but I think that is a team that could contend now and to be frank, if it makes the post-season, would be extremely dangerous based upon the rotation. My problem still is the fact that Max will ultimately get something like 7 years which I just can't justify. I'd go 3/90 sooner than I would go 6/150 for Scherzer. It just wouldn't get the job done.

QUOTE (StRoostifer @ Nov 11, 2014 -> 12:37 PM) Plus, the Sox are not going to double the payroll for only three players. That's just horrible managing of money and in fact just look at what spending like that has done for the Yankees, nothing. Or more recently, the Dodgers and Tigers.

QUOTE (Chisoxfn @ Nov 11, 2014 -> 12:25 PM) If the Sox spent that money, that fills some major holes and I would bet that they would also be spending money on the pen and other areas (more short term deals) and you'd see payroll go a little larger. It would be the situation where Hahn / KW were able to sell JR on it making sense and JR expanding the payroll budget to allow the move to happen. If you spent 25 but as a result, overall payroll went up another $10M (say from 95 to $105) in reality, if you are a fan of the Sox, then you could very much see a scenario where giving a guy a bigger contract makes sense. My problem is more in the years than the dollars anyway though. I have no doubt the Sox are going to try to make their splash earlier this winter, as opposed to later, so as to try to sell more tickets on hope. I also have no doubt that we are no where near competitive on Max Scherzer. We are talking about a contract that will be somewhere around $100 million bigger than the biggest contract in franchise history. We are also talking about a franchise that has signed exactly 4 pitchers to contracts of longer than 3 years. Two of those deals were for young pitchers buying out arb and free agent years. Nothing about Max Scherzer makes sense with the White Sox.

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Mark Lazerus ‏@MarkLazerus 48m48 minutes ago Daniel Carcillo could play as soon as Sunday now, Joel Quenneville said. #Blackhawks

QUOTE (Lillian @ Nov 11, 2014 -> 12:06 PM) How do you know that? J. R. may be willing to go to $110 or $115 Million. He has certainly been there before. Those players would not only have a better likelihood of winning, but they would put more fannies in the seats. The White Sox will not knowingly commit to losing money, that's why.

QUOTE (Jake @ Nov 11, 2014 -> 11:46 AM) One thing I think we can say for sure is that this isn't the same "meh" return we appeared to be getting from Rose last season. It's really impressive at how relatively little rust he has when he was so off last year. You can tell he really put the work in to get back to form. Playing the international games was a big help I bet.

QUOTE (CaliSoxFanViaSWside @ Nov 11, 2014 -> 11:48 AM) I'd be shocked to see the Sox take on any bad contracts. There are enough guys on the FA market who will provide value that won't break the bank. Lot's of guys who will be 3 yrs around $30-40M and less for most relief pitchers. There are a lot of future bad contracts on the free agency market too.

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Nov 11, 2014 -> 11:36 AM) Hahn has about as much chance of getting Wheeler for Alexei as he does of sending Jordan Danks to the Angels for Mike Trout. Great. Then we hold on to Alexei and pay him less than the Mets are paying Cuddyer for the next two years.

QUOTE (Lillian @ Nov 11, 2014 -> 11:50 AM) I'm not advocating it, but what if the plan is exactly the opposite? Maybe the front office thinks that it makes more sense to gamble on 2 or 3 stars, who are likely to add significant value to the team. What if they paid V. Martinez $20 million, Scherzer $25 million, and added one reliever for another $10 million, for example. In that scenario, they would have a contender. None of the teams in contention have stars at every position. They don't need to "fill every hole" with great players. With a nucleus of Eaton, Abreu, Martinez, Gillaspie, Garcia and Ramirez, they don't need much from the other outfield position, second base, or catcher. Jordan Danks and the recent acquisition of Shuck could provide good defense, and whatever offense they produced, would be a bonus. If Sanchez functioned well, as the other half of the DP combo, he wouldn't be depended upon to provide much offense either. Flowers is at least a good defensive catcher. If those three guys averaged .240, and caught the ball, the Sox could win with them, at the bottom of the order. A starting staff which added a right handed Ace like Scherzer, wouldn't need a lot of run support. The #1 through #3 of that staff would be as good as any top of the rotation in baseball, and then they still have Rodon coming soon. Maybe that is the plan. You could make an argument that spending $55 million for 3 difference makers, is more likely to make the team a solid contender, than spending close to that, for a bunch of guys who aren't much better than what they already have. Again, I'm not advocating it, but I wouldn't criticize it, if that is the way Hahn is trying to go. I do know one thing; Rasmus, Melky Cabrera, Headley and whomever else they might try to acquire, wouldn't inspire the fan base anything like Martinez, Scherzer and one of those bull pen studs. One big problem there... we don't have $55 million to spend.

The only way the Angels take on John Danks is if we take back Josh Hamilton in some form.

Ben Badler ‏@BenBadler 6m6 minutes ago Big day for international scouts tomorrow. Every team flying in to Guatemala to see a showcase for Cuban infielder Yoan Moncada.

QUOTE (soxfan2014 @ Nov 11, 2014 -> 10:37 AM) It won't be as extreme as Gonzalez but I still don't think it'll be 6/144 which is what he was offered. I'd put my money on somewhere between 7/175 and 8/200, without thinking twice about it.

Committed Indians 2 mins · New lines from practice: Versteeg-Toews-Kane Smith-Kruger-Hossa Bickell-Richards-Saad Regin-Shaw-Morin Also, Carcillo skated with the team

QUOTE (soxfan2014 @ Nov 11, 2014 -> 10:29 AM) Scherzer should have taken that contract extension from Detroit. I don't think he will get anything close to it. Reminds me of Juan Gonzalez I don't believe this for a second.

QUOTE (soxfan2014 @ Nov 11, 2014 -> 10:20 AM) We don't need to blink so it would have be them. We can hold out as long as possible for thr best offer. We have Alexei under control for the next two years at WAY under market value. We don't even need to deal him. Either they knock our socks off, or they move on.

QUOTE (LDF @ Nov 11, 2014 -> 10:20 AM) but a contract to a major sp like this is saying, "look out here we come" What good does it to to spend that much money and not have enough to fill the other holes?

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Nov 11, 2014 -> 10:13 AM) I can't remember a time when the contract for a front line starting pitcher didn't live up to the hype. Yeah, I can't remember a time where the top pitcher on the market didn't get a contract that made people think "WTF are they thinking?!?!??!"

Andy Martino ‏@MartinoNYDN On Alexei Ramirez, #WhiteSox prefer young SPs like Syndergaard/Wheeler/Montero, while #Mets prefer to deal Niese/Gee/Colon. (1/2) But that's an early read on the situation. Not saying the gap is unbridgeable. Also #WhiteSox, like #Mets, in mode of trying to build contender. So while they'd deal Ramirez, it's not like he's burning a hole in pocket.

Heyman said don't over look the southsiders this winter... http://www.cbssports.com/mlb/writer/jon-he...others-on-radar

Ken Rosenthal ‏@Ken_Rosenthal 3h3 hours ago #WhiteSox have pursued catchers such as #Astros’ Castro, #Padres’ Grandal in past, but more focused now on RH starter, bullpen help, LH bat.