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QUOTE (staxx @ Jul 31, 2014 -> 10:49 AM) Wouldn't they be able to have someone getting ready on the side along with Danks? That would allow them to wait until even closer to game time for the scratch. This could very well be happening. Heck there could be someone from Charlotte losing up in the tunnels in Detroit, and we might not know it.

QUOTE (peavy44 @ Jul 31, 2014 -> 10:44 AM) rick hahn is doing nothing U r lame.

QUOTE (scs787 @ Jul 31, 2014 -> 09:55 AM) Millone to the Twins....Marlins were said to be interested in him. Could help in Danks/Marlins talks. Assuming they didn't give up a lot, that is a nice move for them. They need all the pitching they can get.

QUOTE (witesoxfan @ Jul 31, 2014 -> 09:40 AM) No idea why Boston wouldn't be able to extend a qualifying offer. Because being tied to draft pick compensation could potentially limit his free agent opportunities, which is the big reason for contractually stopping his employer from being able to offer arbitration.

QUOTE (RockRaines @ Jul 31, 2014 -> 09:15 AM) The Red Sox get draft compensation which is pretty big If they can offer him arbitration, can they make him a qualifying offer? If not, they won't get comp.

JJ Cooper ‏@jjcoop36 5m Red Sox getting A's competitive balance pick . Adds roughly another $800,000 to their draft budget next year which will be big.

QUOTE (RockRaines @ Jul 31, 2014 -> 08:50 AM) Lester and Gomes for Cespedes Wait, this is real? Holy crap!

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Jul 31, 2014 -> 08:49 AM) The sturdy lefty is in line for a market-value contract ($24 million-$25 million per season) and that’s suddenly too rich for the Red Sox’ taste. It doesn’t matter that Lester is a player who has proven he can succeed in the crucible of Boston baseball and had the second-best pitcher WAR (wins above replacement) in major league baseball at the start of Wednesday. There is no question being burned by bad long-term deals given to Carl Crawford, Adrian Gonzalez, and Josh Beckett has distorted how the Sox view re-signing Lester. Aging baby-boomers can identify with the Sox’ new team-building approach. They don’t trust anyone over 30. Meet the risk-averse Red Sox, who are willing to cede one of the single biggest advantages derived from being in this baseball-obsessed market — the financial might to write off bad contracts. Deals that would be crippling for other clubs can be sold off by the Sox because they have a fan base that is willing to have its fealty monetized. But the Sox want to build their team now like they have the budget of the Kansas City Royals. You don’t have to be legendary political economist Adam Smith to figure out that if the Sox are going to try to legislate a one-team market correction for baseball they’re going to miss out on some quality players. The persistent trade talk and seeming inevitability of a Lester deal made being at Fenway feel like waiting in line at the RMV — tedious, joyless, but entirely mandatory. It only got worse during the game, as the Sox sank back to 12 games below .500 (48-60). At about 3:15 p.m, Twitter reports filtered in that the Sox had traded away a homegrown lefthanded pitcher who overpowered the Cardinals in the 2013 World Series. But it wasn’t Lester. The Sox shipped malcontent Felix Doubront to old friend Theo Epstein and the Chicago Cubs. Doubront just beat the Sox by two days in completely quitting on this team, after his embarrassing relief “effort’’ on Monday in a 14-1 drubbing by the Blue Jays. Lester, who has been one of the few bright spots for the Sox, going 10-7 with a 2.52 ERA, was originally supposed to start Wednesday night against the Blue Jays. But the Sox announced Tuesday that Brandon Workman would make the start. No need to risk damaging the merchandise before you hawk it for maximum value. www.bostonglobe.com Another quality hit job by the Red Sox. Why does anyone ever want to go there?

I prefer my wife or dishwashing machine to do it.

Over compensating with the arm to make up for a weak back?

I have to say, I didn't see the game, but kudos to Noesi to pitch six innings after giving up 6 runs in the first inning.

Chuck Garfien ‏@ChuckGarfien 1h Sorry to hear about Nate Jones. Tommy John surgery. Out 12-15 months. Hope one day we can tell the story of his great comeback.

K.C. Johnson ‏@KCJHoop 37m DRose: "I feel great. I don't have any aches. I'm really taking care of my body." Then he actually knocked on wood.

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Jul 30, 2014 -> 04:35 PM) Big decision now for the front office whether they want to pay him for another year of non-activity. 2015 is his first arb eligible year. I wonder if catastrophic injury can be introduced into the procedings?

QUOTE (shysocks @ Jul 30, 2014 -> 03:44 PM) How about this one - July 2, Angels @ Sox, tied at 2 in the bottom of the ninth with runners at the corners and one out. Moises Sierra is due up, and in roughly 80 plate appearances with the team he had been about a league-average hitter. Robin pinch-hits Leury Garcia, who was in a 1-for-25 slump and is just generally terrible at the plate. There are no lefty/righty numbers that were relevant here. No move had occurred earlier in the inning that would require another move to shift defensive pieces around in the top of the 10th. It was a situation that demanded contact, only Garcia actually strikes out more than Sierra - he just looks like a contact hitter because he's a little person. What is the explanation here? Why make that substitution? Why pinch hit with the worst hitter on the team? By the way, Leury singled and won the game. I just want to prove that it's not always hindsight management that leads to complaining. The move worked, but it was veerrrry tactically stupid and I remembered that. There's no shortage of examples like this with Robin. This shouldn't be difficult to admit. Garcia is the least likely guy on the team to GDIP. That means if he makes contact, the run scores.

QUOTE (scs787 @ Jul 30, 2014 -> 03:42 PM) Scott Merkin ‏@scottmerkin 8m Lindstrom and Garcia to Charlotte this week Friday That's awesome. I predicted he(Avi) would be back mid August, and I stand by that. Wow. I figured they would be aiming more towards Sept 1 for Garcia, so as to protect a roster spot.

QUOTE (Eminor3rd @ Jul 30, 2014 -> 04:02 PM) But what people don't understand is that in a trade, you're asking a team to give you talent for the surplus value of the contract. John Danks has no surplus value at all at $14m per year. Anyone could just sign a market rate asset in the offseason for that. So if you're considering paying Danks the next couple years at that rate, you'd at best take those years for free, because that's the worst case scenario for what it would cost to acquire someone like him in free agency. You don't give up significant talent just for the right to pay a guy every penny he's worth, unless he's some one-of-a-kind talent that isn't available on the open market. Deadline trades have the extra added luster of having a limited amount of teams selling, and an added extra pressure for teams trying to add pieces to "go for it". The Yankees are up a creek because of their injury problems, which puts more weight on needing another pitcher, no matter what.

QUOTE (iamshack @ Jul 30, 2014 -> 04:02 PM) Crap, I just realized Abreu can opt into arbitration and out of his guaranteed salary after three years... Because of comp salaries, there is very little chance it happens in his first arb year. There just aren't many big 4th year salaries for him to compare to for an arbiter.

QUOTE (IowaSoxFan @ Jul 30, 2014 -> 03:44 PM) "Dan Hayes of CSN Chicago tweets that Jones, who was on the disabled list recovering from a back injury, tore his ulnar collateral ligament while ramping up his rehab from his previous injury." That one sure flew under the radar. Wow. Nate Jones now is going to lose pretty much two full years of baseball. That sucks.

QUOTE (IowaSoxFan @ Jul 30, 2014 -> 03:08 PM) I can't see the Sox spending money on anyone that will also cost them a draft pick this off-season. The guys that are worth giving up a pick for not be viable candidates for the Sox and the pick is worth more than signing the Ubaldo Jimenez's of the world. I can see the Sox signing Masterson now that draft pick compensation cannot be tied to him and perhaps Edinson Volquez or Kyle Kendrick as a stopgap until Rodon is ready. Yeah, Masterson has to be pretty thrilled right now at not having the compensation monster hanging over his off season.

QUOTE (SoxPride18 @ Jul 30, 2014 -> 02:28 PM) Rob Bradford @bradfo · 7m As @jonmorosi reported Miami in on Lackey with Danks other target The Marlins???? Wow, that is the last team I expected to see mentioned.

QUOTE (Chicago White Sox @ Jul 30, 2014 -> 03:05 PM) Random question, but now that Masterson has been traded, the Cardinals can't receive draft compensation if he signs with another team next year correct? NO they do not get comp picks if he leaves.

QUOTE (chitownsportsfan @ Jul 30, 2014 -> 12:59 PM) I'm really curious about this. Like, if Robin wants to go pull Sale after 94 pitches in the 6th (just for example) does Cooper have veto power? That seems absurd to me from an organizational hierarchy but I'm willing to accept that perhaps that is how they do it. It's obviously worked pretty well but it's certainly unorthodox. I think you are misunderstanding. This isn't Ventura bowing at the throne of Don Cooper and begging permission on who to use. This is Cooper telling him who is ready, who makes sense. He's tell him that that starter looks tired, he looks strong etc. This guy is ready for this situation, this one isn't. I also don't think it is unorthodox. It just seems like it because we don't follow the other 29 teams as much as ours.

QUOTE (chitownsportsfan @ Jul 30, 2014 -> 12:54 PM) His last 10 or so appearances he's been pretty good. 3/1 K/BB ratio. Fun with selective endpoints but as of lately, he's been better. The Sox have zero confidence in him. They have spent the entire year finding pitchers to move ahead of him. Even their waiver wire pick ups have moved ahead of him. Could that change? Sure. But he has to get more consistent in the strike zone. Walking 5.5/9 is never going to fly in a Don Cooper bullpen. The kid has 10 wild pitches this year in 48 IP. That is insanity. That is 4th in the AL. The only guys ahead of him are SPs. You have to drop down to #20 to find another full time reliever on that list.

QUOTE (chitownsportsfan @ Jul 30, 2014 -> 12:53 PM) I honestly have a hard time believing that any manager, who is a very clear #2 on the pecking order on the baseball side of things in an MLB FO, would accept his fate being tied to a pitching coach, even one as talented as Cooper. I highly, highly, highly doubt that Cooper has the final say on any pitching change. If a manager accepted those terms for the job he's chickens***. Although from what I've seen from Robin that may well be the case. If that is how the Sox do things they got a problem the manager needs 100% authority. Cooper can make suggestions fine and Robin can take all the advice he wants but the final call absolutely has to come down to Robin. Recognizing that someone knows something better than you do doesn't emasculate you. It has been clear for a really long time, again all of the way back to Guillen, that the pitching staff belongs to Don Cooper. Both of them have said as much in comments over the years.