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QUOTE(kapkomet @ Apr 1, 2005 -> 09:18 AM) This is serious. You can think what you want. Damn right and I will type this real slow so all of our new "friends" can understand this on their whited out laptops F U C K T H E C U B S and their little gerbils too.

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QUOTE(kapkomet @ Apr 1, 2005 -> 09:13 AM) What crawled up your ass? The board's here. Like it or not. No one else will be. Unless you change this board to the manhole.com Then you will have tons of Cub fans checking this out... granted they will be pissed off after a couple of clicks. That is unless they get some shower room pics.

Its ignorant. You might as well put Rush and John Kerry together.

:fthecubs

They will finish with their boyfriends as usual.

f*** Kerry Wood

Are you f***ing kidding me? Whose stupid f***ing idea was this s***? The whole point of this site was to be troll free and now we are going to bring in the biggest idiots in Chicago? This is f***ing bulls***.

QUOTE(Sox1422 @ Mar 31, 2005 -> 04:36 PM) Shooting for Lot E along the fence by gate 2. i assume that is where a lot of the SoxTalk crew will be. Hell, I have probably crossed the paths of a few of you over there before. PM me something to recognize you guys by, and I will stop by.

QUOTE(Punch and Judy Garland @ Mar 31, 2005 -> 05:47 PM) you guys act like he has Pete Rose credibility. And?

QUOTE(CWSGuy406 @ Mar 31, 2005 -> 03:20 PM) Cuddyer. That's who I was thinking of... I know that name, he has been one of my sleeper fantasy picks as he qualifies at 1b, 2b, 3b, and OF.

http://www.nbc5.com/news/4334466/detail.ht...994&dppid=65193 File this one under WTF???

Both are out on FA market in one of my leagues, and I am going to pick up the best bat as an extra utility guy for my bench. I have all of my positions covered, and am just looking for bonus points on off days. Who would you pick up?

QUOTE(sec159row2 @ Mar 31, 2005 -> 03:01 PM) not necessarily... lines are often set to get the public to bet a certain team... for example... duke minus 4 over mich state... duke only minus four points??? when just about everyone has them in the final four... the public got smoked cause they fell into vegas' trap... chris berman said it best " when vegas is begging you to take a certain team, you're usually the one who ends up begging" vegas KNOWS EVERYTHING WE DON"T... espn tells you what they want you to know.. not what you need to know... I don't buy that at all. It is well known that Vegas makes money on the spread. That 10% that the house gets from you is where they make their money, as long as the bets are balanced against each other. If they lost that game, they would have had huge losses in your scenario. In reality they probably had 100,000 bets for Duke, 100,000 bets for MSU, and kept the 10% as a pure guarenteed profit, instead of hoping it fell their way. Betting operates as a commodity and is priced as such. Stocks are always trading where there are equal numbers of buyers and sellers. If there are more buyers, the price goes up until they balance out sellers and buyers, and vice versa. Spreads operate the exact same way.

http://apnews.myway.com/article/20050331/D8965T6G0.html Link from drudge

QUOTE(Texsox @ Mar 31, 2005 -> 02:46 PM) Again, using your analogy. The shopkeeper would tell the adults that since purple kids from the neighborhood steal, then purple adults can't buy as much fruit. The guilty are hurting the innocent. You are painting all Mexicans the same. I am dividing the groups, like you. I am separating the Mexicans that can afford the few hundred dollars for the permits, which do not allow you to work, from the poor ones that cannot afford the several hundred dollars. One last comment on the shopkeeper. If kids from Main Street without ID stole $5 per week, and other kids from Main Street with IDs spent $5000 per week. Is the shopkeeper smart to not take the honest kids money? I am not saying that poor Mexicans can not figure out how to overstay a visa, I am saying that poor Mexicans are too poor to buy the Visa. Coyotes are cheaper, and often times can hook them up with jobs, false identification, and transportation further inland. Think about this in reverse. If they could just buy a Visa and overstay their welcome, why risk death by traveling across a desert, or locked in a truck trailer? Why alert the US government that you even entered the country? It's like a burglar announcing he's entered your home. Why should policies be different for Canada and Mexico? We share a border for one. We share historical ties. Many areas of the US were part of Mexico, families are split. For example about 100 years ago, people in Laredo were given a choice in which country to live. Move to the north side of the city and be Americans, or move to the South side and be Mexicans. Imagine the practicality of needing special permits to cross the Chicago river. To have a thirty day restriction to visit Hyde Park, but people from Pill Hill have 90 days? Border cities, especially the older ones, are like that. They were built up before the Rio Grande became a stricter border. During rationing it was routine for Americans to travel to Mexico for shoes, sugar, and other rationed items. Travel was free and easy and lifestyles developed around that. That is why we allow travel within more or less 25 miles of the border, differently than into the interior. We don't allow other nations that same privilege. Interesting thing you mention that last line. Why would the US allow such an exception to one race/country and no others? Just like I have been saying all along, because it is a different situation that mandates a different set of rules. Should be do away with that rule because no one else has that rule? Isn't that racist against the rest of the world? What about the poor Canadians who just want to go to Detroit or Buffalo, but can't as easily as a Mexican can go to Brownsville or San Diego? Is that fair to them, should we be choosing one race over another?

QUOTE(Sox1422 @ Mar 31, 2005 -> 02:10 PM) I was thinking about getting there around 10-10:30. I heard the security will let you wait outside the lots before they open. Trying to get a good spot. Let me know where you guys are going to be. We gotta tip a couple.

QUOTE(Texsox @ Mar 31, 2005 -> 02:20 PM) And SS, economics is more your area, and I'll get clobbered by you in a debate, so I hesitate to comment, but isn't one of the best ways to balance our trade with Mexico tourist dollars? We do not manufacture much, how else can we encourage Pesos into the US? I would think that tourism dollars are a good thing. One of my green comments was about the US whoring itself out for money, and in general, sadly I do believe that. There has got to be some kind of a trade off that happens the longer people stay here. If there was so much money to be made from specifically Mexican tourists, and there was no cost trade off, the US would do it in a heartbeat. Why do you think it took so long to limit middle eastern visas and fix the problems there? They were no problems until 9-11, and until then we ignored the problems.

Adjust your fruit analogy from state residents to kids, and you have a whole different, much more apt view. Shopkeepers often will only let one or two kids into a store at a time (espcially in areas around schools), and they won't allow them to bring their backpacks into the stores at all. Do adults have the same restrictions? No. There are innocent kids who spend money there, who are either kept out of the stores, or so insulted by their policies that they go somewhere else. Why do shopkeepers do this? Because they know by and large it is kids who are stealing from them, and most likely by denying them entrance as a whole, they are doing better for themselves with that system. I never said that it was rich Mexicans who were seeking visas or to illegally immigrate using them. You did. Not me. You put those words in my mouth using your assumptions. According to you only the poor immigrate, and the rich just use the US as they see fit. I don't see why you think that if anyone had the chance to get into the US proper legally, and wanted to illegally immigrate, why wouldn't they. Are you saying the poor Mexicans aren't smart enough to figure out how to overstay a visa? If people can pool money to pay a coyote to smuggle them over the border, why can't they afford to apply for a visa? Or are you saying that Mexico/US only grants visas to the obscenely rich? And if only the rich in general can afford US visas, why would we limit anyones time here at all? Why do we limit any countries time to visit here? If we are so racist in our policies, why do we limit times that Anglo countries citizens can stay here?

The Jays paid Koch almost a million dollars and then only gave him 4 chances? Wow.

I think for the opener some lots open 3 hours early. Usually it is 2 hours early. Gates open 1.5 hours early, but will most likely open 2 hrs early.

FWIW, this was on SI.com today

QUOTE(Texsox @ Mar 31, 2005 -> 12:52 PM) Actually with Mexico, it isn't the case. Economic policies, bad luck, corruption, and a miriad other issues have created a Mexico with a upper class and a lower class, and little in the middle. Wealthy Mexicans travel to the US on a regular basis. They own homes here, and spend a lot of money in the US. Gotta stop these guys from coming to America Which is why I shake my head in wonder when you write I love the image of guys in Jags and Hummers looking for a safe house, a place to work. The border is much different that what you see in Indiana. The class system in Mexico is distinct. Our shortsighted Visa program is costing American Business hundreds of millions in tourist dollars. Yeah I have no idea what happens anywhere else but Indiana. Shoot where I am from we just kill anything that isn't white anyway. That's why Canadians are so much better here, and they don't speak some forgein language. Plus I am only one state away from Canada so I can almost use my peabrain to understand them. But hey if they are going to spend money, throw open the borders, let everyone in. I mean whoring ourselves out for a dollar is what the USA is all about Our whole economy will collapse without them. Give everyone a visa, why limit their time here at all. Hell annex Mexico and make it the 51st state, they all seem to want to be here rich or poor. You have totally convinced me. That way we don't have to guard the borders at all, and we don't have to worry about our food prices either. Damn this would be great!!!! Damn I am going to write GWB right now!!!!! Damn I feel so much more enlightened today

QUOTE(robinventura23 @ Mar 31, 2005 -> 12:38 PM) You are correct. It's 1:05 CT. Thread edited for the viewers pleasure.