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QUOTE(JUGGERNAUT @ Sep 7, 2005 -> 03:00 PM) It's pointless to continue. Not only were both my posts wiped out but so was the quoted reference. Didn't know SOXTALK had thought police. I'm equally bewilderd. Guys, what's the deal?

QUOTE(JUGGERNAUT @ Sep 7, 2005 -> 02:52 PM) The similarities are so astounding that you could make the argument that man's evolutionary past can be visibly seen during reproduction. Ontogeny recapitulates phylogeny?!? When was that book written?

QUOTE(Balta1701 @ Sep 7, 2005 -> 02:46 PM) Quick point. $150-200 billion to pay for this disaster. $1-2 billion 5 years ago to start upgrading the levees. Ignore the loss of lives and just think like an American taxpayer...this is where tax cuts can really hurt you...you cut back in spending in places where you really need it. And the bills can get a lot larger down the road. I've read that the number to upgrade the entire levee and pump system to withstand a Cat5 would have been more like $13 billion, but the point stands. Compared to $100+ billion, the need to rebuild the city AND upgrade the levee system anyway, and the phenomenal loss of life, it was a foolish gamble. One of how many in this country?

QUOTE(ChiSoxyGirl @ Sep 7, 2005 -> 02:32 PM) This reminds me of a book I read called Ishmael. It was good and thought provoking. Juggs would do well to read it. Call me Moby?

QUOTE(JUGGERNAUT @ Sep 7, 2005 -> 02:04 PM) This post has been edited by the Soxtalk staff to remove objectionable material. Soxtalk encourages a free discussion between its members, but does not allow personal attacks, threats, graphic sexual material, nudity, or any other materials judged offensive by the Administrators and Moderators. Thank you. I promised myself I'd stay away... I'm up to speed on the findings alluded to in your fact #2. And yes, humans have translational mechanisms that upregulate/downregulate and basically get vastly more varied genetic expression out of their sets of DNA blueprints than other closely related species seem to do, despite the gross similarities in their genomes. It's really quite amazing. As for your fact #1 mutation rates of millions of times more than other closely related species, I would be grateful if you could provide me a reference to the primary literature that reported thses findings. I cannot make any informed judgement without seeing the research and the credentials of the investigators. In the end, it's your thesis statement that should not stand unchallenged. What does it mean scientifically to be a "super-species"? (And actually, such a taxanomic designation does exist, at a level above species and below genus, but it is rarely employed and typically means either the systematics lumpers aren't finished lumping or the splitters aren't finished splitting.) Do any of the prmary sources alluded to in facts #1 and #2 use the term "super-species"? As for there being no evidence for natural selection as the filter that allowed the line that gave rise to Homo sapiens to explode on the scene in such grand fashion, squezing so much more out of the expression of their genes, I don't believe that is the case any more that you can say there is evidence that something other than natural selection allowed the line to fluorish. At its heart, all natural selection does is identify those phenotypes that are really, really good (acoording to the environment at the time), and let those pass through selective filters that weed out less fit phenotypes. If a seres of beneficial mutations gave rise to the mac daddy suite of phenotypic attributes taht make humans your "super-species," then it was very likely natural selection that recognized a good thing (in it's blind watchmaker way, of course) and allowed it to persost at the expense of less fit variants. Juggs, please post the primary references for the mutation rate studies you note, and I promise I'll read them, look into the other publicatiosn of the respective research groups, and give them appropropriate consideration.

QUOTE(Chisoxrd5 @ Sep 7, 2005 -> 02:01 PM) If you can figure out how to get your work to pay for a Ipod, I need to know EXACTLY what you said to get that one to fly... I use my 40GB as my transport hard drive, so it is MOSTLY a work tool. Sadly, I paid for it myself before my previous pocket drive crapped out, or I would have been able to get them to buy it for me.

QUOTE(Wong & Owens @ Sep 7, 2005 -> 01:49 PM) At Ford, Quality is Job #1. Job #2? Setting your car on fire. Four Old Rusted Doors

They had better cut the price of the Shuffles quite a bit, if they're even keeping them around. Also, I'm sure all the third party vendors that made mini- accessories are pissed that they have to go back to the drawing board. I think I like the nanos, but unless i can convince work I need one I don't see one in my future.

QUOTE(southsider2k5 @ Sep 7, 2005 -> 01:30 PM) And the other thing about Soxtalk, no threads stay on topic, no matter how hard you try... Honestly, I don't think we try all that hard.

QUOTE(Kid Gleason @ Sep 7, 2005 -> 01:30 PM) Is this your way of telling us you find her to be a "hottie"??? Don't you need Wino's permission to go after the truely sexy ones??? Unless it's Bea Aurthur, who I know better to lay claim to, then it's every man for himself. But me and Babbs?? Nah, I don't think it would work out, on account of my hating her and all.

QUOTE(Kid Gleason @ Sep 7, 2005 -> 01:14 PM) Not really, people seem to like me a bit here and I haven't had to almost get in fights every-damn-day for the way I look. Plus, I actually kind of like this place. Shut up and gimmie your milk money.

QUOTE(Kalapse @ Sep 7, 2005 -> 01:22 PM) She's 80 years old. And it's working out very well for her.

QUOTE(tonyho7476 @ Sep 7, 2005 -> 12:46 PM) Don't f*** with chicks in bee costumes! Damn straight!

QUOTE(The Critic @ Sep 7, 2005 -> 12:38 PM) KILL 'EM AWL 'N' LET TED NUGENT SORT 'EM OUT!!!!!! Gotta kill it before you can grill it.

QUOTE(Steff @ Sep 7, 2005 -> 12:39 PM) Misunderstanding then. Sorry bout that. 30 lashes for me. Yea baby!! Ouch, that's going to leave a mark.

QUOTE(Steff @ Sep 7, 2005 -> 12:31 PM) Did you not attempt to compare them banning someone with posters here being banned for their past actions...? Over there, I assume from observation, they keep track of posters they feel are, or might be issues, here... that doesn't happen. I did not mean to insinuate that they wake up one day and start banning people, which is what would be the case if someone got banned from here. No, I referred only to past NEGATIVITY in their posts concerning the team's play. Iwritecode's post suggested that LV had a number of negative posts (about the team, not personal attacks or anything else), and that constituted the history that the mods thought was sufficient for a banning. You opined that there usually is a history proceeding such actions (and there is), and I suggested that if a history of simple negativity (no personal attacks, no attacks on players) became a ban-able offense here there would be plenty of casualties.

QUOTE(Queen Prawn @ Sep 7, 2005 -> 12:26 PM) Deep breaths people. We are all on the same side here - the WHITE SOX SIDE! The who??

QUOTE(Steff @ Sep 7, 2005 -> 12:19 PM) I don't think I insinuated that's what they do. It seems you did in the current case, if LV's "History...." amounts to nothing more than the sort of sentiments in the example post. It cartainly can get tiresome to see the same negativity at times (often from the same solks), but the "other site's" decision to ban based on some doomsaying at the end of a month we all wanted to forget is treating dandruff by decapitation. Give the rest of the board community enough credit that they can decide for themselves to ignore the psosts from specific posters they disagree with.

QUOTE(Steff @ Sep 7, 2005 -> 12:11 PM) History.... They usually have a reason. IMO as well. If they started banning posters here for having a history of negativity associated with their chosen ball club, it would thin the place out a lot. And that would be unfortunate, because right now I know that however badly I take a Sox loss I can just jump on here and see somebody with their head in the oven taking it worse. Makes me feel downright sane (well, saner at least).

QUOTE(The Critic @ Sep 7, 2005 -> 11:56 AM) You can't microwave Lakeview. Too many tinfoil hats.

QUOTE(Greg The Bull Luzinski @ Sep 7, 2005 -> 11:54 AM) Some mods are drunk with power. Considering that I have seen Mods tossing the F-word around like candy at a parade, I feel bad for you. I hope you have a better experience this time and are able to avoid the mod that banned you. He will if he stays here at SoxTalk.

QUOTE(bmags @ Sep 7, 2005 -> 11:52 AM) maybe there will be a microwave effect, where one sox fan in lake view starts a catalyst reaction...and it becomes a hotbed of sox fans. Are you suggesting microwaving Lakeview?!? The idea does have some merit, with apologies to the Sox fans in exile up there.

QUOTE(RockRaines @ Sep 7, 2005 -> 11:27 AM) I have been playing cornhole since i was a kid. Taken out of context in any form, or anywhere out of the midwest, you'd be making quite a revalation there.

QUOTE(UofIChiSox @ Sep 7, 2005 -> 11:46 AM) Go the easy way and buy a set off of Ebay!! White Sox bean bag toss set on Ebay Easy until you have to plunk down $85. Although I do see those are built to the specs of the Midwest Beanbag Association, which is important.

QUOTE(Kid Gleason @ Sep 7, 2005 -> 11:45 AM) I have never even seen any of the "other" boards out there, and if you got banned for that, then I am glad to stay right here where I feel safe and warm. Did you just wet yourself again?