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QUOTE(Balta1701 @ Sep 7, 2005 -> 11:34 AM) I think you may have seen it 2 pages ago in this thread. Ah Ha! Possibly the only post I missed in the entire damn thread.

QUOTE(bmags @ Sep 7, 2005 -> 11:30 AM) i knew i wasn't the only one... "no you don't understand, i haven't gotten warmed up yet, i'm only on my first beer" It's my firm belief that beanbags was invented primarily as a way to curb the number of accidents attributed to drunk Southsiders playing horseshoes and jarts ("lawn darts") on summer holiday weekends. Let 'em throw beanbags and nobody ends up at the emergency room. At least until we light the Coleman...

QUOTE(RockRaines @ Sep 7, 2005 -> 11:20 AM) On this board, that post might make you in the majority. Welcome to Soxtalk It is impossible to remove, either surgically, psychologically, or through the arcane arts, the tiny grain of negativity that always resides in true Sox fans waiting to rear it's head at the appropriate times. To paraphrase James Joyce, as Sox fans, we have an abiding sense of tragedy that sustains us through breif periods of joy. Welcome aboard, LVSoxFan.

QUOTE(Texsox @ Sep 5, 2005 -> 10:01 PM) I'm guessing if everyone who knew, posted in this thread, it would be as empty as a Monday morning church. The rest of 'em are chasin' sun on 101 (somewhere around Ventura).

QUOTE(LosMediasBlancas @ Sep 7, 2005 -> 10:57 AM) I can understand the season ticket holders, they SHOULD have dibs. So many corporate tix is non sense. I completely agree on the seasonal holders, and always have. If I lived back north i'd be right there with them (of course I'd have to sell a kidney or maybe just a kid to swing it ).

QUOTE(LosMediasBlancas @ Sep 7, 2005 -> 10:47 AM) here ya go: http://www.suntimes.com/output/sox/cst-spt-sside07.html Oh, yeah, lopping off the top of the UD is going to mean we in the rabble (non-corporate, non-season ticket holders) are going to be competing for 8K fewer seats this time around

QUOTE(Balta1701 @ Sep 7, 2005 -> 10:33 AM) Seriously guys...stop dissing Iowa...it's not just Iowa. FEMA arranged for 3 luxury cruise ships to be leased and move off the Gulf Coast. There are beds, toilets, and food on them for roughly 6000 people. The problem...the people sitting at the Astrodome are so scared about being lost or accidentally cut off again now that they actually have supplies that none of them are willing to move. The people are also worried that if they move away from the big body of refugees, it'll make it harder for them to find homes and schools for their kids whenever the government actually starts dealing with those people. So while the Iowa jokes may be funny...the problem isn't Iowa...the problem is the Hell that those people have been put through. Full story here. And it doesn't help instill confidence when your rescuers do things like cold-calling officials in Charleston, SC, to tell them you are flying in refugees in 30 minutes to be housed, but then go and land in Charleston, WV. I can't remember where I saw that last night, I think somewhere in the nola coverage.

No, I'd agree the incompetence is pretty much 100% throughout, at all levels other than the actual local first responders (including lots of residents who are heroes). Early in this thread I mused that Nagen looked like he had it together and could be the big hero. Obviously, I was a bit overoptimistic.

Way back in the olden days of 2000 ( ), I got ALCS tix online the Saturday morning they went on sale in about 5 minutes flat. Of course, that was before EVERYONE had high speed connections, so I could go into the office and keep hitting the Ticketmaster site with 3 different computers until I got through. It probably also helped that I was gunning fort ALCS tix while all the locals were after the Divisional Series tix, because I knew I could only swing one trip in and I figured we'd dispatch those Mariners in short order...

QUOTE(tonyho7476 @ Sep 7, 2005 -> 10:09 AM) Tough crowd? The guy got over $5 million, and did nothing for the team. He immortalized himself as a Sox trivia answer with the 504' blast. And, yeah, you'd think 5.3 million would have got us a little more.

Cheer up, Heads. If my family gets displaced this season I'll thoughtfully consider all that Iowa has to offer me as a prospective refugee (which shouldn't take very long).

Very Nice. When can we [lace orders for ours?

QUOTE(winodj @ Sep 7, 2005 -> 06:29 AM) The Majority Leader of the House has now determined that hearings on what went wrong with Hurricane Katrina aren't necessary. They've been cancelled. For Congress. http://www.cnn.com/2005/POLITICS/09/07/kat...ress/index.html And here's the heart of the matter. There apparently was no mechanism in place to assess ahead of time or in the immediate aftermath that this crisis obviously was exceeded the threshold to be considered catastrophic in the largest sense of the word, and since a coordinated, centralized (i.e., federal) response was absolutely imminent anyway it should have been THE primary response. The traditional strategy, where local officials try to control a situation, and fall back on state, regional, and federal support is certainly the preferred method for manageable situations. Wildfires, at least in the early stages. Unruly mobs, tornadoes, etc. Officials at all levels knew this was huge once the city evacuation orders were given, and that try/fail/ask for more help reiterative strategy should have been thrown out the window. It's easy to say it's all hindsight and how could anybody know etc. But we've spent BILLIONS of dollars on homeland security precisely so we would know how to handle response to catastrophes of this magnitude. None of us here were part of any of that preparation, but we don't have to be to be able to question how effective it all was as we see the results. It's been said before, but saying, 'who could have predicted the levees wouldn't hold' is as incredible a statement as Condi saying, 'well who would have thought they'd fly jet planes into buildings?' In both csaes, Plenty of people with expertise in those areas hade precicely those concerns.

QUOTE(Jimbo's Drinker @ Sep 6, 2005 -> 11:15 PM) nah not really 6 games won 6 games lost No, the beer definately tastes better in the midst of a winning streak.

I also find Michael, Brown's revisionism, in an apparent attempt to save his ass, to be sickening: That is excerpted from an open letter to the President posted on nola.com. A must read for all except the 12% of Americans who think this has been handled well from the top.

QUOTE(Balta1701 @ Sep 6, 2005 -> 08:14 PM) The only question that matters is...How Many of them are named Steve? While I refuse to dignify the premise of the thread with a response, I will say that Project Steve !

QUOTE(Heads22 @ Sep 6, 2005 -> 07:51 PM) That 12 is the exact one I just got, except with a B square scope, I think. I haven't actually seen it yet, it's a present from my dad and uncle. The 20 was two for two, including a doe my first year and an 8 pt buck my second year. Seemed to do the job. And then some. I shot the first in the bottom of the heart and I got the second in the heart and liver. Both went less than 50 yards and I watched them fall. Clean kills. Good for you. The deer will try not to let you suffer when they turn the tables.

AJ and Family!

QUOTE(SnB @ Sep 6, 2005 -> 04:44 PM) we should just honestly rename that to :steffy:

QUOTE(the People's Champ @ Sep 6, 2005 -> 04:42 PM) Dye: Dude, you swear that you wont tell Skip' A.J.: Alright look, (raises right hand) I swear I will not tell Ozzie that you dropped a hit of acid in PK's Aquafina. PK: Hey guys.............You see the size of that Chicken?!?? Long day or something, because that made me laugh really hard.

QUOTE(Steff @ Sep 6, 2005 -> 04:40 PM) Can we leave the poitics out of it and just help those people... Yes, help the people. Many of 'em right into body bags. It's not politics. It's disgust at top to bottom ineptitude and lack of preparedness.

QUOTE(Balta1701 @ Sep 6, 2005 -> 04:25 PM) In other words...the people there really don't have the money to get their lives back together, and in many cases, they didn't have the money to get out. But, but. . . they were TOLD to evacuate. . . Why didn't they all just do what they were told...? :banghead

QUOTE(YASNY @ Sep 6, 2005 -> 04:06 PM) Why DOES he call them the Carmines? Because Carmine Ragusa – Laverne DeFazio's old boyfriend – is one of the co-owners, silly. Edit: Or was he Shirley's boyfriend?? I can't remember.

QUOTE(The Ginger Kid @ Sep 6, 2005 -> 04:04 PM) she's a terrific golfer as well, you should see her swing. Let's see...she's beautiful, she's sports savvy, loves to play golf and now of course is a white sox fan. congrats! Well . . . I bet she snores! [/petty jealousy]

Und now. . . vee DANCE!