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Everything posted by Rex Kickass
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If stating your opinion is giving away intelligence, then this whole board oughta get waterboarded. That saying Rockefeller is an asshat for doing what he did. It's not his place.
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QUOTE(kapkomet @ Nov 16, 2005 -> 08:34 AM) After reading all of this, I agree with Rex's statement that the far right and far left have so far hijacked the moderate stance that we ALL have a bad name for believeing ANYTHING anymore. Jimmy Carter and Billy Graham are GREAT examples of where I wish the "extreme" positions were. If that were the case, we'd be a lot better for it. Both are very good men. Bet you never thought you'd ever refer to Jimmy Carter as Great.
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QUOTE(NUKE_CLEVELAND @ Nov 16, 2005 -> 02:20 AM) You're so quick to point out people who are an embarassment like Robertson, Falwell etc...etc.... They do not represent mainstream Christianity and you know it. They are a tiny, yet vocal, minority. Those idiots do Christianity a disservice because their rediculous statements are just what the Christian bigots need so they can point their finger and say "That's the religous right". The people who I am talking about are everyday people who go to church, practice their religon and try to live their lives the right way only to have their beliefs dragged through the mud by a bunch of hypocrites who say tolerance out of one side of their mouth and "fundamentalist idiot" out of the other. Im sick and tired of people like Billie Joe s***bag, or whatever his name is running around bashing Christianity and getting heaps of praise from the left for doing it. I want to hear you answer for those on the left who go around, as I said before, calling anyone who reads a bible, gets within 50 feet of a church and votes Republican an idiot, fundamentalist, etc........etc...... Nobody here is praising anyone for bashing Christianity. I'm quick to point out Robertson and Falwell. I'm also quick to point out people like Jimmy Carter and Billy Graham. Problem is, when it comes to Christian spokespeople where are the non-wackjobs? Pat Robertson has the 700 Club. Dobson has a syndicated show on hundreds of radio stations. That mormon chick from the Real World was on the Real World. We know that at least two of these people have access to the White House right now. How much access do you think non-wackjob Christian leaders have? How many stations are they on? There are also left wing Christians who are prominent yet not well respected. I.E. Jesse Jackson, Al Sharpton, etc. Mostly because they're crooks. And that's Christianity's problem here. It has a public face of cheats, liars and asshats. And most of that face doesn't wanna let you into their church unless you believe exactly like they do. And most of that face wants to attack other people and be intolerant. The Christian right refers to a segment of politically active (re:wacktivists) people within Christianity. It doesn't refer to people who happen to believe in Jesus who vote Republican or Libertarian or whatever. These people seem to think that Christianity is under attack... and if anyone mentions that religion belongs on the blue side of the aisle get all pissed off. I'm not saying its right. But has anyone thought that all this attack on Christian religion might be a byproduct of people of faith who feel that their religion has been hijacked? Whether it actually has been or not?
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Ugh. Not this again. As a Christian myself. I'm sick of people who claim the mantle acting all oppressed when they get called out on being intolerant. Most of them aren't what their faith is all about to begin with. I went to Campus Crusade meetings in college and they didn't feel like they're making "progress" unless they're attacked so they provoke it to begin with. I personally think that if we're going to take a look at an example of what a faith should be in practice, I think we should look at someone like Jimmy Carter. Say what you will about his presidency, but there is a man who lives up to the faith he preaches every day. Maybe we should ask him if Christianity is under attack. But we don't. Because everyone knows that his answer might be grounded in reality. Instead we hear from blowhards like Bill O'Reilly who think that saying "Happy Holidays" in the Sears catalog is akin to burning the baby Jesus in effigy and Pat Robertson who advocates assassinating foreign leaders. We get people like Jerry Falwell who are quick to blame women for being too feminist as a main cause of the September 11th bombing and Fred Phelps who apparently hates everyone. If the Christian right wants to not be under attack, maybe it should stop attacking.
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So there's finally more family on the site? Sweet.
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QUOTE(NUKE_CLEVELAND @ Nov 15, 2005 -> 10:44 PM) The reason being is because Republicans have traditionally taken better care of the people in uniform. However, there are a lot of soldiers who think we have no business in Iraq but go anyway because it's their job. Sadly that's something that merely appears to be true these days. In the last three years, the Bush administration has proposed cutting combat pay and closed dozens of VA Hospitals. Where are veterans' bread buttered? Not with our current government.
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QUOTE(kapkomet @ Nov 15, 2005 -> 03:32 PM) Ahh, so the NY Slimes is brought in to support the thinking here. Thanks, I'll pass. Again, as I've said so many times before, the truth lies somewhere in the middle. I am also in the camp that there's reasons way beyond what any of us REALLY know as to why we are where we are. We sit here and throw dung around as if we really know what we're talking about, and I don't think any of us do. We counter and counter point using whatever biased report supports our belief. At the end of the day, I don't think ANY of us know the real reason(s). That was a column. Not an actual piece of news.
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QUOTE(sox4lifeinPA @ Nov 15, 2005 -> 12:30 PM) so Eminem can't say words like "f*****", but Green Day can refer to anyone who voted for GWB as a "redneck" and "idiot america". what pisses me off so much is that Green Day have some how become rock icons and so cerebral. I don't understand the agenda at all. It's so pick and choose. redneck and idiot america refer to things that people did. f****t refer to what people are. and unflatteringly at that. Context makes a difference!
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I don't disagree with you there. But there are two things that the Republicans are saying that simply isn't true. That Congress - when voting for the resolution authorizing force - were privy to the same intelligence as the President. Not true. The intelligence the Senate was given was provided BY the White House. Filtered and all. And that the Senate found no wrongdoing by the Whitehouse in misleading Congress with the intelligence after an investigation. Again not true. Congress was charged to make an investigation into that. In two parts - the first - which dealt with the accuracy of the intelligence showed that the intelligence was wrong. The second - still hasn't taken place after 18 months and is the reason that Harry Reid closed the Senate the other week. I genuinely think that many on both sides acted in good faith on the President's request. I don't think blood is intentionally on their hands. However, when it became apparent - two years ago that there may have been deliberate misrepresentation, Congress should have been more aggressive to investigate these claims. They weren't. And as a result, there is plenty more blood on their hands.
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Please don't lump all Democrats in the same boat. A lot of us are concerned - but most of us are not advocating a cut and run strategy. A lot of us are very concerned though with the path that our President took us to where we are. A lot of us are very concerned with the lack of foresight for this situation we are in now. A lot of us are very concerned with the future of Iraq - because it will play a big part in the future of us. The problem lies in that it seems as if people who are in the halls of power and are making the decisions seem less concerned with doing the right thing and more concerned with what the public wants or feeding their own egos. Dissent in the intelligence gathering community appears to have been stifled. Different points of view in the NSA appears to have been stifled. And we have an administration that apparently out and out lied about whether this situation could have ended peacefully in the first place. And to be honest, until those situations are addressed - we need to hear more about the loss of American life in this operation and less about whether or not a fresh coat of paint and a handful of books were passed out in Baghdad.
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I'm sorry Kap - but this unless the news is "bad" horses*** is just that. If the news isn't bad but isn't extraordinary - it's not news. It's the American government just doing its job. If that is newsworthy, that's a sad state of affairs for this country.
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I come back to my job six months after I left it... and at work, I was still logged in to Soxtalk.
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Ooh, how about last week when I had to be at work at 6:30 AM to do "visibility"?
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This is a live album. Is there any significance to the title per se? Or is it just a reference to all those Westerns where the people who were shot were saved, cause the bullet was blocked by the bible in their pocket?
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Http://reid.senate.gov Later yesterday, Frist said pretty much the same thing. As his idea.
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QUOTE(EvilMonkey @ Nov 14, 2005 -> 11:11 PM) TEX, how is it building anything other then scepticism when he says "We have a plan", but when asked what that plan is, either cannot or will not tell. He actually said that they 'don't have to' tell their plan now since they weren't in power. Well, how can you convince someone YOUR plan is better than the other guys when you won't say what it is to begin with? Actually, the Dems came up with a plan on how to handle the Iraq situation right now. Which is more than you can say about the Bush administration as of late.
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So did you notice that this website is McDonalds own and offers you the chance to "save the mcRib?" Me smell viral marketing.
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I have a Bachelors in French.
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QUOTE(JUGGERNAUT @ Nov 13, 2005 -> 02:10 PM) There is nothing wrong with pointing out the weaknesses in evolution & recent scientific findings relating to them. That does not equate to a different theory though.
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Can we please have an election in my lifetime without a Clinton or a Bush on the ticket? It's been seven straight presidential elections since. The last one was before I was born!
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QUOTE(JUGGERNAUT @ Nov 13, 2005 -> 01:30 PM) The absence of logic drives the people to insanity. See France. It's nice of you to understand that a tipping point reached after decade upon decade of ignoring, disenfranchising and systemically discriminating a large segment of the population can be chalked up to the absence of logic. I'm sure you thought it would have just been logical for Rosa Parks to follow the rules too.
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QUOTE(EvilMonkey @ Nov 13, 2005 -> 05:29 PM) In many elections, money = outreach. More money = more people see and hear your message. Of course, if your message still sucks, the point is moot. Not true. Money = money. You can have all the money in the world but if you don't have a volunteer base going door to door and talking with your supporters and energizing them, you don't have s***. All the money in the road doesn't change that. In my local race, we drastically outspent our opponents. Our base didn't turn out like they needed to. We didn't do a good enough job getting them energized. We lost. By the way. I worked GLBTI outreach for my precinct. Me and my co-worker did it basically by ourselves. Our targeted precincts showed up at 106% of where we needed them to be. We spent no money on specific outreach there. We were able to reach the Haitian community because we talked to them, not because we spent money.
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QUOTE(Texsox @ Nov 13, 2005 -> 01:40 PM) Rex, with all do respect, money for tv is so huge. The Illinois race was mismanaged from the start, and not a typical case. I'll take the lesser candidate and 8X the money and 99 times out of 100, you'd lose. By the time all my money is spent, my candidate will be the better candidate. I think Juggs has an excellent point. I also think that the RPC has a huge media advantage with the GOP Radio Network. It's a 24/7 telethon. Contributors hear the cause and the message. No such outlet for the DNC. The Dems hope could be that Dean is rousing the masses and creating voters and volunteers and just lagging in donors. We all know if the candidate is hot and gaining mind share, the money will follow. DNC funding does not equal campaign funding. Part of the reason party funding may not be as high for the Dems as it could be is because there are a lot of races for 06 that are already raising a LOT of money. Casey is doing well in the cash race against Santorum. Chafee and DeWine's competitors will be very well funded. But not from the party. Money doesn't matter. Base does. I live in a county where every Dem candidate lost narrowly, not because we weren't spending enough money, but because our base vote program didn't produce base votes. That's not from a lack of money - that's a lack of outreach.
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I believe the gap is smaller than it was last year. (Not necessarily with money in the bank, but with actual fundraising.) Money won't win this election. Obama won his Senate primary despite being outspent 8 to 1 by the frontrunner. If the Democrats are successful at drumming up their base support, it won't matter.
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Well, that's fine and good. It just seems to me that everyone deserves legal rights. Sorry that you don't feel that way.
