JoshPR

Zambrano ain't worth both

Jimmy Greenfield -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- GRAND STANDING Working together to fan trade winds What trade can the White Sox and Cubs make with each other that would help both clubs? It goes against Cubs and White Sox fans' fiber to want to help each other out, which makes what I'm about to ask you to do even more difficult. The month of May isn't over yet, but it's apparent that it won't take a whole lot for either team to go to the playoffs. The Cubs are near the top of the NL Central despite losing Mark Prior, Kerry Wood, Sammy Sosa, Mark Grudzielank, Alex Gonzalez and Mike Remlinger at various times. The Sox are in good shape, too, even though they might have been better off forfeiting every fifth game rather than subjecting their bullpen to dozens of innings of extra work mopping up for Dan Wright, Felix Diaz and Neal Cotts. Plenty has gone right but there's room for improvement, which is why we're going to play my favorite game: Let's Make a Pretend Deal. The only rules: It needs to make sense for both the Cubs and the White Sox, and it can only involve those two teams. No three-way trades allowed. If you want to include prospects, go right ahead. At first, I didn't think I could find a blockbuster to help both teams and was prepared to offer up a minor trade. But then it hit me: The Cubs trade Matt Clement and Corey Patterson to the White Sox for Magglio Ordonez and Kelly Wunsch. It's a scary trade because of the marquee players involved and because Ken Williams and Jim Hendry would have plenty at stake if they actually pulled it off. But here's the reason they should do it: The trade makes sense. The White Sox's biggest need is quite clearly a fifth starter. They also need, in no particular order, a fifth starter, a fifth starter and a fifth starter. Everything else pales in comparison. On the other hand, the Cubs have had decent outings from their No. 5 starter Sergio Mitre, who will go to the minors when Prior comes back early next month. If Clement is dealt, Mitre can step back in and back end a rotation of Prior, Wood, Zambrano and Maddux. So Clement goes to the White Sox and they save millions while filling a huge need. But why deal Ordonez? First of all, because you have to give up talent to get talent. Second of all, the Sox have enough offense in Carlos Lee, Paul Konerko, Frank Thomas and Jose Valentin to get by without Maggs. Third of all, there's not a chance he signs with the White Sox next season. The Sox don't give out long-term deals worth tens of millions of dollars. They just don't. Clement is also a free agent next season, which means the Sox don't have to make a commitment to him. The Cubs get a dependable lefty in Wunsch, who has worn out his welcome with the Sox and put Ordonez in center field to replace Patterson, who gives the Sox the lefty bat they need. Why would the Sox want the free-swinging Patterson? Because he's good defensively, cheap for a few more years and not only has the potential to be great but produces every now and then. Plus, if he works out he's a huge marketing tool for the Sox. If the Sox had a No. 5 starter anywhere in the system, they would have found him by now. The Cubs have the depth to part with Clement, and a consistent superstar like Ordonez will be insurance if Sosa is hurt for a while. More importantly, it'll help prevent such a hit-or-miss offense. That's my bright idea. You got a better one? :puke :puke :puke

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Agree with ya. JD got a lot of talent. I think he's kinda both Fragile and Unlucky. That's ehy i said he would have to come cheap

AMEN BROTHER AMEN But hey many only care about the speed and the ops

Couldn't agree more

In other news.... If he came Cheap. JD really never lived up to his potential

I do f*** ASS :fyou

And he strikes out more than 130 times a year doesn't walk much and just because he hits well as a visitor doesn't mean it will keep up. I'll give the good d and speed but that about it. You can't steal first base

So you say Beltran Sucks and you want cameron? :headshake :banghead

But he's a catcher on the Ballot and that's what counts and if the fans vote him in as a catcher he has to catch.

What are you Willing to give up for a 37 Year Old Boone Harris is not a regular centerfielder

Don't need to go afta Boone. He's declining too. Harris is a good Glove man.

Dream On......... Dream Away.....

I was thinking the same thing

Read Closely to what I said...... And you'll understand where i'm comming from.... But no.....

Wow Brando sorry to say but not very Classy there

I'm Dumbfounded as much as many here :banghead :headshake

Mariners ain't gonna trade Piñeiro, unles they now he's hurt real bad and they can get top quality in return

A 25 yr old Rigthy who's reached his potential and has Arm Problems?? I'll keep the 24 yr old Lefty Thanks

What insight??? Harold Reynolds is a complete tool. He has nothing to say, Watch how much ya bet the Royals will start trading people away and he'll say ... Ohhh I picked the Twins to win it all.. MORON. Just because he played the game doesn't mean he knows the most, hell i think he knows s***. Dibble is pretty good and so is Kruk. If they're only gonna focus on certain teams they just sould be called Yankees - Red Sox Tonight.

Dumb Trade. You don't give up and a young lefty that easy... Some trade ideas around here are laughable :headshake If Bill Veeck was alive many here would ahve a job with him

Freddy Garcia is the best bet, Along with Kris Benson. Don't want Ortiz, Livan is impossible as is Schmidt Alou is not a Moron

Hey I heard Dave Stieb is making a Comeback

How about the Booter.. Marc Hill Or hell Mark Salas or Donnie Hill. Maybe even Steve "Psyco" Lyons