Gregory Pratt

QUOTE(Chisoxfn @ Jun 10, 2006 -> 12:04 PM) Wasn't he at 111? And considering he had a few jams, he seems to throw a lot of "high stress" pitches. I say better safe than sorry, plus Cotts is very good against both LHP and RHP...Haffner just beat him. I thought he was at 105, but let's say he was at 111. I have no problem letting him have perhaps ten more against Hafner. I don't think we should make it routine to have our pitchers go that deep into games, but in that case, with Hafner? Sure. I guess I've just been burnt by our bullpen versus Hafner, and just really would rather have a guy who had been consistently getting him out over a bullpen that hadn't. Although I'd have been much happier with Thornton in that situation.

QUOTE(Chisoxfn @ Jun 10, 2006 -> 11:40 AM) I can't second guess, but if we lose one game by protecting Vazquez from throwing a ridiculous amount of pitches it doesn't bother me. However, in general Vazquez is a freaking machine against LHP for some reason. Vazquez stuff is filthy, but I think he's odd in that he seems to pitch best with hitters in position, and he seems as if he likes to live on the edge and pitch with the attitude of a brinksman. I hear what you're saying, re: pitch count, but he was only slightly over a hundred, and I think it would've been within reason to keep him in against Hafner.

I think Rowand would be interested in coming back as a free agent but as far as trades go, he doesn't have a choice. Philly can either keep him or trade him and he's got no input, really.

Or you let Javier Vazquez, who owned him last night, face him, instead of playing by the matchup. Oh, forgive me, I'm second guessing!

Leave him alone. He's been pitching better than the box score shows!

The Indians are very much overrated. Their pitching blows. And that's all there really is to it. Detroit is scary, and we'll see them 'till the end or we'll see no one toward the end.

I hope there's some rain, as Jim Thome, for one, seems to like playing in the rain against Cleveland.

QUOTE(chimpy2121 @ Jun 10, 2006 -> 12:35 AM) Kerry Wood and Mark Prior You stole my gig!

As far as wrestlers go, there's Terry Funk, Sabu and Mick Foley. Let's not bulls*** ourselves, though: Foley was hardcore, especially in Japan. So was Terry Funk, though he had a LOT of nasty matches in ECW, too. Sabu had them everywhere. (Foley was hardcore in ECW, too, but much of his time there was spent on his "Sick of being Hardcore" storyline.) Foley, however, had different incidents that are well known. Foley is primarily known for being thrown off the hell in a cell, and I tend to think that he's the toughest for it. The man was thrown sixteen feet of the hell in a cell, through a table onto the ground, and then climbed right back up the cell to get thrown through the cell and have a chair hit his face only to continue the match and be tombstoned on thumbtacks. Funk was a beast from what we're saying, too, but bleeding is a much different thing than being slammed. Which is worse, and takes a tougher man? I'm not sure. I've had gashes and cuts -- big nasty ones -- before, and I've had tendons torn. It's rough, but there's nothing quite like a blow to your body's structure -- to your very core. ------------- As far as non-wrestlers go, how about Mark Prior? Or that Michael Barrett fellow? ------------ I like Cal Ripkin, Favre. But I don't really think about it THAT much, as most atheletes ARE tough guys, in their own ways. Though very few match up to Mark Prior!

QUOTE(Cuck the Fubs @ Jun 8, 2006 -> 05:26 PM) That's where all my plannin' takes place!! "Rarely is the question asked: Is you a bad enough dude to pull my finger?"

QUOTE(Kalapse @ Jun 9, 2006 -> 10:03 AM) I'm simply talking about thier pitching, I'm sorry but the likes of Harang, Claussen, Elizardo Ramirez, Eric Milton and even Bronson Arroyo do not scare me. They're in first place in the NL Central which is about as unimpressive as it gets, if any of our starting pitchers show up for the series the offense won't have to worry about putting up 6 runs a game though the top 6 should be able to provide some decent run support anyway. The only possible pitching the Sox will have to face in NL parks is against the Cubs if they get Zambrano or possibly Duke in Pitt but in both those series they go up against absolutely pathetic offenses. Pittsburgh's offense isn't horrendous. But I get the gist of your points.

QUOTE(santo=dorf @ Jun 9, 2006 -> 10:14 PM) Thome's smile made me smile I love that guy's enthusiasm. It's infectious.

Excellent. Excellent excellent excellent.

Come on Jermaine. If you don't do it here, the game is probably over because, I don't know if you've been told, but our next part of the lineup blows.

QUOTE(fathom @ Jun 9, 2006 -> 10:00 PM) Man, do we have low expectations for our pitchers this year. Vazquez gave up like 50 runners in this game. He pitched with balls...but he had his work cut out for him. I only have low expectations for Garland, although I've only got mild expectations of Garcia. It was the fact that Vazquez pitched through his hit batsmen and all the runners that I was proud of him. But I am somewhat biased, as he and Contreras are my personal favorites.

I hate it when we spoil a good starter's good outing, especially one as feisty as Javier's.

This is why Anderson belongs in the big leagues.

THERE HE IS!!

Where the f*** is Matt Thornton, anyway?

Hawk is such a s***. Someone ought to tell him to stop pretending that it's his not his job to throw a fit and stop talking because the Sox are losing.

So what IS Javy's ERA now?

I hate the matchup bulls***. He should've left in Vazquez to finish off Hafner. What's Vazquez' ERA now that he's left? Has it been inflated by Cotts?

Javier's brinksmanship coming back up.

QUOTE(BigSqwert @ Jun 9, 2006 -> 08:55 PM) Pregunta: Gates open 2 hours before the 1st pitch? Going Sunday and want to ensure my daughter gets a give-away. That's sweet. I think it might be an hour and a half, but it's probably two.

You know, I don't like it when Javier hits people or walks them or anything but he, more than anyone on this team, is the pitcher I want pitching with runners on. He is excellent in that position.