Gregory Pratt

QUOTE(jackie hayes @ Oct 21, 2007 -> 09:59 PM) It's not ridicule, it's frustration. Most of us want to see the Indians go to the Series. It's silly, is what it is.

That third base coach ought to lose his job IMMEDIATELY

QUOTE(redandwhite @ Oct 21, 2007 -> 09:42 PM) What players don't you like on this team? IMO, they're very likable. They're young, down to earth, talented guys. Outside of Manny, I can't think of anybody whose disliked around the league. Manny's the obvious one. I don't care for JD Drew. Youkillis' game I have no problem with but I hate the sight of him. Lugo is, unless I'm mistaken, a wife-beater (please correct me if I'm wrong, but I think he was arrested or sued or detained for it -- it came out somewhere). I don't like "Big Papi" for reasons I can't get into here but that I imagine you can surmise. I don't like Varitek. I like Lowell. I don't like Francona. I don't like Gagne. I do like Papelbon a lot. But overall, it's just not a group I care for.

Westbrook has been gutsy as hell tonight. Now's the time to capitalize on the momentum before Papelbon comes in.

I dearly don't want the Red Sox to win this game. I love Fenway, but not the fans, not the team, not the players, not the Money.

Yeah, I'm sure it's painful on some of them, but I don't think they or those players have anything to be ashamed of. And if they lose tonight, I don't think so, either. I'll be disappointed -- you should close the deal up 3-1 -- but still, it's not "choking" in my opinion. Being beat in seven games isn't choking, IMO.

Julio Lugo makes me sick.

QUOTE(Greg The Bull Luzinski @ Oct 21, 2007 -> 09:30 PM) Perhaps so ... but a choke is still a choke ... though I am not sure how many actually expected the Indians to win this series so much as people expect themto win the series after going up 3-1. I'm not even sure I'd consider 2005 a choke by them. 2005 was a near-choke by us and incredible, .700 ball by them. I don't consider it choking to not sustain a .700 winning percentage all through the second half or to end up winning 93 games and slashing away at a huge lead.

Are White Sox fans of all people ridiculing a franchise for "not being able to close the deal"? Since 1994, the Indians have been to three World Series -- that's 3/5ths as many as our franchise has in its entire existence. Sure, we won in 2005, and I'll always be happy for that, but it's pretty silly to see White Sox fans mock another franchise for being down by one run in the ALCS.

Should be a tie game. Come on Cleveland!

As pointed out on Baseball-Fever: George Mitchell is a part-owner of the Red Sox. I don't know if he had anything to do with this leak, but I can't believe that he's running this joke investigation and being a part-owner. And it explains something else, too, but I won't get into that.

QUOTE(knightni @ Oct 21, 2007 -> 06:23 PM) I know. Where the hell is Orton when we need him? I hope you're not insinuating I'm an Orton guy. I've long maintained that 1. all three of our QBs are lousy. 2. Orton is the worst. 3. Grossman is second worst, and still very very bad. Griese's just better than them, but still sucks.

Rex Grossman could never, ever lead a drive like that.

Child of mother nature? I'd be amazed if he wasn't on steroids. I read recently that most steroid users nowadays aren't athletes but regular joes who want to look good. I don't know which of those categories He falls into.

PS: good for the Patriots to fight back against scalpers.

QUOTE(whitesoxfan99 @ Oct 21, 2007 -> 12:53 PM) Tom Brady is 9/9 with 3 TDs and the Patriots have scored 28 pts with 10:44 left in the 1st half. Ridiculous I f***ing LOVE it.

What the hell!

Just yesterday morning they let me know you were gone Don't it always seem to go That you don't know what you've got Till its gone One day you're up and the next day you're down, you can't face the world with your head to the ground. Up the road from Third Base to Huntington

Maybe. Maybe not.

QUOTE(jackie hayes @ Oct 21, 2007 -> 11:21 AM) Claims it was all legitimate and open and prescribed, due to a hormone deficiency. I just saw that and was about to post it. Here's Rosenthal's article:

QUOTE(Dick Allen @ Oct 21, 2007 -> 11:08 AM) I think it means all bets are off as far as speculating who cheats or has cheated and who has played by the rules. If Paul Byrd cheats, it makes everyone a suspect. This news is really a shame. I think there are a ton of pitchers who have used perfomance enhancers. I'm starting to really believe if everyone who has cheated where to be suspended, we would be looking at replacement players level baseball. All bets have long been off. Almost all of them have, or are, using something.

QUOTE(kyyle23 @ Oct 21, 2007 -> 09:23 AM) Didnt he have tommy john surgery in that timeframe? I wonder if he was trying to hurry his comeback Yes, that IS it, I think.

See, this is the f***ed up part about steroids in baseball. I mean, clearly there are some guys who use it and as a result go from hitting forty homeruns to seventy+ -- but how do you judge a guy who uses to recover from an injury? Or who uses and goes from throwing a 75 mph fastball to throwing 82? This news disappoints me. Not really a surprise, but it's definitely disappointing.

I know what that's like!