Dick Allen

Podsednik CF Nix LF Dye RF Thome DH Konerko 1B Pierzynski C Ramirez SS Getz 2B Fields 3B

When you start b****ing about the official scorer, you have officially run out of things to complain about.

QUOTE (BearSox @ May 17, 2009 -> 01:57 PM) Where can I find Kalapse's handy contract info sheet? If you can't find it, I don't think it can be refered to as handy.

QUOTE (Frankensteiner @ May 17, 2009 -> 01:39 PM) I remember people were calling last year a success (although I wasn't one to think this) because we had found a young core of Quentin, Alexei, Danks, & Floyd. In hindsight, would people say that today? Quentin and Danks are still going to be a huge part of the White Sox future. They love Ramirez and even if he is what he now is, they only paid him a total of $4 million for 4 years. He's already earned his money last season. Floyd is troublesome, not only for what he's done his last 20 starts which makes it appear getting lit up isn't exactly temporary, but the cash they threw at him. Considering how they will always cry about not having any money, even the $14 million extensions to guys like this, is probably a huge mistake.

Fields is not taking pitches well at all.

Fields is trying to hit the ball 500 ft.

QUOTE (The Ginger Kid @ May 17, 2009 -> 01:32 PM) gavin now sporting the 777 era. woo hoo Maybe he has a deal with Boeing.

Gavin and Contreras have never been able to hold anyone on. Its been that way ever since Hawk has been talking about them as first ballot HOFers. Why b**** about it now?

Lillibridge playing his way into the everyday line-up. Hope you like Charlotte BA.

QUOTE (chisox2334 @ May 17, 2009 -> 01:08 PM) joe madden messes up his lineup card putting longoria to hit dh and play third. Also, had Ben zorbit playing third. Now Andy sonastine is hitting third today now due mess up/. Looks like we have an early leader for the Terry Bevington award.

Getz is a rookie. Rookies struggle.

QUOTE (BearSox @ May 17, 2009 -> 12:44 PM) I think they get drafted higher than they should because of how good of athletes they are. And there's something about the development time they miss playing football that cannot be made up.

QUOTE (fathom @ May 17, 2009 -> 12:38 PM) The thing that frustates me is we acquired Betemit to fill in for Fields against tough righties, especially when Fields was struggling. Now, we are in that same exact situation, and Betemit doesn't get playing time because of his poor defense. The question is: where in the hell is the scouting of Betemit that should have been done to show he's a bad defensive player? Must have been the same scout who said Swisher and OC would be amazing clubhouse people. Betemit plays against tough lefties. I really don't understand why they even bother with him on the roster.

QUOTE (BearSox @ May 17, 2009 -> 12:34 PM) I've come to the conclusion that the guy just isn't a baseball player. He's got the tools, but lacks instincts and baseball know-how. I'm leary of football players playing baseball. Most don't turn into the players they were advertised.

QUOTE (TitoMB345 @ May 17, 2009 -> 12:33 PM) So I really don't like Fields anymore. He looks 100% lost at the plate. He's the same as he was when everyone was making a big deal out of him, except he's not hitting all the homers. He really had never hit homers at that pace previously in the minors and he probably will hit homers more frequently than he has this season, but his performance is really not shockingly worse than before.

3-2 Lillibridge should just take. The take sign is his best chance.

QUOTE (Chisoxfn @ May 17, 2009 -> 12:30 PM) Wheres Ozzie? Graduation? Well now its 2-1 on my feed. What the f***, why would directtv have such a late feed. Ozzie Yunior is now a college graduate.

QUOTE (Chisoxfn @ May 17, 2009 -> 12:27 PM) Is my feed on a major delay or something, its 2-0 with 2 outs? I bet Rios homers. $50?

QUOTE (Chisoxfn @ May 17, 2009 -> 12:26 PM) Ya, I was stunned Paulie was moving, at the same time, I'm not opposed to forcing the issue. I just didnt like running Dye with Thome on base, but I'm thinking that was on Dye not Ozzie. Dye I believe has a green light to go when he wants to and thought he got a good enough jump to steal 3rd. In fact he did cause he was safe, but ump made the call and it was a close play. I hope Ozzie didn't call for the steal. I still wish we had even more guys that could run on this team (not just only run, but run and hit for an average). Ozzie isn't there. Joey Cora is in charge. Joey is the biggest reason I don't want Ozzie to quit. He most definitely would be the replacement.

QUOTE (whitesoxmanager @ May 17, 2009 -> 12:26 PM) for whatever reason first place teams usuallly win on sundays. First place teams usually win every day of the week.

I'm pretty sure the Sox will need to score at least 6 to win today.

The other thing was when it was 3-2 on Thome, Konerko was in motion. If Thome k'd which happens fairly often, 2 White Sox outs would have been Dye and Konerko caught stealings.

QUOTE (SoxFan562004 @ May 17, 2009 -> 12:13 PM) this team is just so bad right now. Bad fielding, bad pitching, bad offense and bad decisions. You have one of the toughest pitchers in baseball shaky at the start so you give him an out by trying to steal with JD? Unreal. It might not have cost any runs, but I agree, Jermaine Dye making the first out of an inning trying to steal 3rd is not smart baseball.

Happy birthday to Carlos May. The only guy to wear his birthday on the back of his uniform.

QUOTE (Disco72 @ May 17, 2009 -> 09:30 AM) What players have the Sox had that either prior to coming to the Sox or in the minor leagues had that high contact skill set? Walker can't completely remake players into something they weren't before. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ He hasn't been given these kinds of guys to work with. Its like asking a chef to go into McDonald's kitchen and making something gourmet. It was very interesting to hear Hawk and Stone talk about Cito Gaston and Gene Tenace yesterday. Cito has always been known as a hitting guru. They mentioned that they are very rare because they mention to their hitters actually trying to hit a home run. The White Sox have pretty much had power offense for a while now. I don't know why a lot of people think the home run is bad. I think the lowest homer totals they have had in the last 10 years or so was 2007, they lost 90 games, and this year they are a little behind in the HR dept. and look at their record. If they can't acquire high obp guys who can run, they have to hit homers to score. It was absolutely ridiculous to think this was going to be a good offensive team if guys like Dewayne Wise and Brent Lillibridge were leading off. Blaming Walker is ludicrous. It would be like firing Don Cooper if Mike MacDougal was the closer and he blew another game.