Dick Allen

QUOTE(knightni @ Dec 20, 2005 -> 11:47 PM) First he suck, now he a Swallow. I put it on a tee for you, but I give you credit, you hit it out of the park.

He already has signed with the Swallows (I know there's a joke there) in Japan. His release was just a formality.

KW must have really been turned off by Harris' refusal to play SS in winter ball. He was a big Willie Harris guy for a long while IIRC.

QUOTE(fathom @ Dec 20, 2005 -> 10:46 AM) As happy as I am that Timo is gone, I'm just as happy with the organizational approach I see so far where they're not letting sentiments/personal friendships get in the way of making the SMART baseball decision. With that in mind, I still think we're more likely to see U. Urbina pitching for the Sox in June than we are Jon Garland. Will he have one of those things around his ankle?

What where Timo's home and away splits? He has to be a better player than Blalock in any park other than Texas.

And Soxtalk has officially run out of whipping boys.

Considering how Contreras finished up and the deals pitchers are getting this offseason, it isn't exactly the most ideal time for the White Sox to be negotiating a new contract with him.

QUOTE(chisox2334 @ Dec 19, 2005 -> 04:54 PM) no offense but where has anyone said that el duque phsyical went wrong? until you hear something then when can speculate whats going on. Remember two wweks ago wensday we accepted for cub-killar and it was not announced till tuesday or even later than that the next week. So everyone calm down. The Arizona Republic is reporting the hold up is the D-Backs are waiting for the results of Duque's MRI on his shoulder. It might be fine, it might not be, it might not really matter, but until the trade is officially completed there is still a chance it won't go down. FWIW, the DBacks GM in the same article was talking about how Chris Young may start in CF for the DBacks this season. Evidently they almost signed Lofton, but he has elected to follow Nomar to LA.

QUOTE(chitownsportsfan @ Dec 19, 2005 -> 04:12 PM) "then we could flip duque to someone else for prospects or something" Yea, that would be ideal. I don't see anyone wanting him though--he can't pass a physical, and he's owed 4.5 million. I mean, he's garbage. Too bad we can't just cut him and save money like the NFL. Because he has a guaranteed contract, he can't be cut and be done with it, and you are correct, if he flunks a physical the Sox will not be able to move him anywhere. This trade all depends on how much the D-Backs really want Young. Duque can fail a physical anyday of the week and no one would raise an eye. As long as the D-Backs didn't get cold feet with this deal, or didn't later get offered something they like better than Young, I expect them to complete the deal. If they try to use the condition of Duque's shoulder to get more out of KW, I would imagine he would tell them to go scratch.

QUOTE(jphat007 @ Dec 19, 2005 -> 02:47 PM) KW said that. KW said that Crede was doing well in the offseason and that he will be good to go. The thing is he said that he couldn't go into the season knowing that something bad could happen that he previously knew about, without doing something to back it up. Buts its possible KW doesn't know what hes talking about. I mean he's only the GM No, KW commented on Hermanson's back, and has not said diddly about Crede.

QUOTE(jphat007 @ Dec 19, 2005 -> 02:37 PM) But my point is that evens out. You don't trade a pitcher like Garland to get a player that is just a little bit better than the one you have. And we have Crede locked up for a couple of more years and a price that will be even cheaper than that. 5 Million is ridiculous for a player that has a road OPS lower than Scott Podsednik for the last three years. And I'm aruging with a guy who think Podsednik sucks. You are pretty much getting a player that will only help you out when he is at home against right handed pitchers. That is signficantly cutting down on his worth. So you are also saying that the just turned 25 year old Blalock doesn't have the ability to improve his numbers on the road? That he's pretty much has maxed out. The other major concern the White Sox have that you are apparently overlooking is the condition of Crede's back. Maybe he will be fine, but all indications are the White Sox are concerned.

Watching this particular replay has made me dislocate my shoulder from patting myself on the back so much for not wanting Matt Clement signing with the White Sox last offseason. Now Boston is stuck with him, and they don't want him.

QUOTE(bschmaranz @ Dec 18, 2005 -> 10:04 AM) Isn't Izturis slated to miss half the season? And what purpose would he serve on the current White Sox? I could see Garland being moved to LA, just don't know why Izturis should be involved. I really think that Texas is where Garland winds up if the Sox trade him. They desperately need pitching, and eventually will be willing to overpay. I also think the Sox love Blalock.

Good luck to Nomar. I met him last summer, and despite what some say, he is a very nice guy.

QUOTE(southsider2k5 @ Dec 17, 2005 -> 10:15 PM) If Clinton had done this, he would have just lied about it anyway... George W. Bush has never lied about anything since he was defeated into office back in 2000.

Personally, I still think Contreras without Duque is a concern. I wouldn't expect Cooper to say anything other than what he said about it.

The new Cardinals station and the Score, the White Sox new station are owned by the same parent company.

QUOTE(Kalapse @ Dec 16, 2005 -> 10:57 AM) It would shock me, simply because we have nowhere to put him. He's a liablility in CF these days. I love Griffey and do believe he can still play CF. I don't think he could play it for a full schedule though, and the DH role seems to not be available with the World Champions.

QUOTE(sayitaintso @ Dec 16, 2005 -> 07:38 AM) They should put brick on the walls of the bullpen. It would look so much better than the gray wall. Probably just basic upkeep. This seat sale if they are only selling 7000 seats will net them less than $2 million. Hardly enough for anything very significant.

QUOTE(fathom @ Dec 15, 2005 -> 04:51 PM) Wilkerson is a damn good player who's always played in a bad hitter's park. He could easily put up numbers better than Blalock or Crede. If the Sox were able to make this trade, and it probably is just a BS rumor, the offense would be fun to watch. Maybe the most enjoyable White Sox offense of our lifetimes.

QUOTE(nitetrain8601 @ Dec 15, 2005 -> 04:50 PM) Yeah because Blalock wasn't supposed to be offered up in that Beckett deal at all. Oh, I remember that now. Blalock just turned 25 a month ago. Why don't you compare his and Crede's numbers at a comparable age?

QUOTE(nitetrain8601 @ Dec 15, 2005 -> 04:47 PM) If he's such a stud player, then why is he one of the guys they are always willing to give up in trades? I liked the Pods trade simply because it gave us a leadoff hitter not named Aaron Rowand. They have traded him the same amount of times the White Sox traded Frank Thomas. Great players get traded and some non-tendered every year.

QUOTE(nitetrain8601 @ Dec 15, 2005 -> 04:42 PM) Look at the park adjusted stats. They're the same player. Then why not take the younger player with a far greater upside? One of the criticisms of Blalock the last couple of years is he has been swinging for the fences. There are more than a couple scouts who compare him to George Brett when he has his line drive stroke working.

Blalock is only 3 months older than Jerry Owens and he has 89 career homers.

QUOTE(RockRaines @ Dec 15, 2005 -> 04:33 PM) Officially the most one-sided thread of the year. And were not even taking into account the issue with his back. The White Sox are obviously very concerned.